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Digital music: Poll: What do you miss most about the pre-MP3-download era?

by Lee Koo (ADMIN) Moderator - 4/24/08 11:47 AM
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Post 91 of 120

Don't miss any of it

by huntnlabs - 4/25/08 3:01 AM In reply to: Poll: What do you miss most about the pre-MP3-download era? by Lee Koo (ADMIN) Moderator

I don't own any CD's nor do I download any music. I only listen to music when I'm driving and just use a thing called a RADIO. They actually play music on these and it's all free.

Post 92 of 120

what I miss...

by deaths_little_helper - 4/25/08 3:35 AM In reply to: Poll: What do you miss most about the pre-MP3-download era? by Lee Koo (ADMIN) Moderator

I miss all of the top 6 options...it all combined to make the perfect music listening experience.

P.S. EVIL!

Post 93 of 120

yes I miss the stores and the artwork

by chandachanda - 4/25/08 3:58 AM In reply to: Poll: What do you miss most about the pre-MP3-download era? by Lee Koo (ADMIN) Moderator

I think record stores were great fun, a way to meet people and socialize too. I'd like to see "MP3 parlors" where kids and adults can hang out and socialize. Its important to not have your only contact with other human beings be in an virtual atmosphere.
Also, I miss the artwork and the thought behind albums and their covers and interiors, the loss of jobs for artists and the artisty-that wasput into them, the way to convey the feelings of the musci through artwork, pictures of bands, lyrics, all of those things. yes I love the music still but how about the ideas and ideals behind it? Can we get those from a download? I really don't think so.
de-humanization is one of the pitfalls of the computer age that we must be wary of because we need that thought and that interaction.

Long live artisty in all its forms.

Post 94 of 120

Overkill

by ErikHockman - 4/25/08 4:47 AM In reply to: Poll: What do you miss most about the pre-MP3-download era? by Lee Koo (ADMIN) Moderator

Unless you count my computer, I have no MP3 player. I don't see the need to carry hundreds of songs with me, nor do I like the fidelity loss in MP3 compression. Nearly all my music is on CD, record or cassette. 8-Tracks were an abhorition, as they cut songs in half, fading down quickly and fading up quickly when the channel changed, and the things readily jammed up or had tracks bleeding over the channels.

Post 95 of 120

Keeping the hardware backup!

by daimonmt - 4/25/08 4:58 AM In reply to: Poll: What do you miss most about the pre-MP3-download era? by Lee Koo (ADMIN) Moderator

As we download MP3's, we really get to choose what we want, however there is abig drawback, since it's not intangible like a disc, there is the great risk of data being corrupted or lost. I like the new technology, don't get me wrong. But before if you had a CD you'd treasure it and you could store it for years without any worries. On the other hand ou cannot say the same for downloaded material, and if you want to make a backup for the sake of safety you still end up with double the material (external hard drive or Cd with MP3 format or who knows Blu Ray DVD full of you MP3's) I think the way to embrace this new technology is to use the same evolution that we used from the tape era. That is embrace the new technology but with incorporated hardware. Have you ever thought that you could by an album on an SD? That it would incorporate written lyrics in pdf format and also Album art and so on? Maybe someone should think about this prospect, there will be no odd excuse for taking up space on your shelving either, but in time to come you could just grab your favourite album on an SD and listen to it on almost any media player on today's and tomorrow's market.

Thank you for reading my post.

One's opinion may not always be right, but it can make a difference!.

Post 96 of 120

Keeping the hardware backup

by AMSRay - 4/25/08 5:18 AM In reply to: Keeping the hardware backup! by daimonmt

daimonmt, I really like your comment about moving the artwork and other extras to digital formats and supply them with the digital music on SD (or USB stick). It doesn't solve the problems with most digital music such as DRM or low sampling rates, but it does bring back a lot of the ownership experience that I miss from the past.

Post 97 of 120

What do I miss?

by rollinglenn - 4/25/08 5:30 AM In reply to: Poll: What do you miss most about the pre-MP3-download era? by Lee Koo (ADMIN) Moderator

The SOUND QUALITY!!!! Yeah, I love the warmth and fullness tone.

I still have my direct drive turntable. My wife would love to get rid of the heavy 70's Harmon Kardon receiver and big Advent speakers (a custom design by Dr. Henry Kloss) in favor of a more efficient AND SMALLER surround system. Maybe someday when I'm old (I don't trust anyone over 60 without good cause)!

I miss the whole experience of LP music - personal, physical, social. I guess the album art and liner notes have to top the list after the sound. Shopping for a new album built up anticipation just like if it was a good book that would lead you to new worlds of sonic bliss.

Why did the survey leave out the sound quality issue? Is it a forgone conclusion that either minimally compressed CD's or mega-compressed mp3's are SO much better? I guess they hoped for some kind of uproar from us in the bunkers.

Thanks for the opportunity to remember why we fell in love with music in the first place.

Post 98 of 120

Thanks Rollinglen, for your quality equipment.

by wa9guu - 4/25/08 4:19 PM In reply to: What do I miss? by rollinglenn

Keep your quality stuff. All the songs that made us love and broke our hearts are real treasures. Manufacturers try to make it better, but admit trying to sell it over to us by new technology.

We all got a laugh at how Y2K was going to kill all our infrastructure. Computers ARE a virus, Bill Gates. Have to love him and hate him at the same time.

Post 99 of 120

MP3- All your reason apply

by jrap330 - 4/25/08 5:47 AM In reply to: Poll: What do you miss most about the pre-MP3-download era? by Lee Koo (ADMIN) Moderator

I have no interest in MP3's or downloading any music file. I will miss the substance, the feeling of an actual CD or record in my hand. The linear notes describing the producer, the engineer, band or artist's personnel notes and hopefully the lyrics. Of course these are all hard to read with CDs, but at least you have them to read. The audio quality, MP-3's is a comnpress format so the music is not heard as intended by artists and the engineer. Going through racks as someone stated and finding out about artist you never heard of.

Finally, the major advantage that people cite is really a disadavantage due to our ever increasing nature of instant gratification. That is, listening to an albaum as a whole. A sign of true maturity is not just listening to items that you like, but songs you dislike....any child loves things instantly but as parents we teach them to try other things, to give things a chance whether it is food, exercise, shows, movies or music. That is how we develope from children to mature aduilthood. So why are we going backward and why do we not see this as a flaw in downloading music. When I became interested in music during my teenage years, I found out the songs or music pieces I appreciated most, the albums I appreciated most; where the ones I dislike originally because the sound was not just right (wrong key or a bad riff or melody or overall music structure. By listening over and over, I appreciated all the other aspects of that music. Therefore, I will conclude by downloading music...you never really appreciate music. And if you buy CDS on sale for $ 10-12.00 and if half the tracks are real good....than is just as affordable at downloading music at $1.00 per song.

Post 100 of 120

Call me old fashioned, but....

by jdiehn - 4/25/08 6:03 AM In reply to: Poll: What do you miss most about the pre-MP3-download era? by Lee Koo (ADMIN) Moderator

Now I really don't want to go back to the good old days, I am really not all that old, but Computers in general, are taking the life out life. With music available on MP3 players all the time, people don't even talk to each other any more because they have ear buds in their head all the time. People have to be "entertained" all the time by external means. What ever happened to just sitting back and watching as the world go by. People are just shutting down what is happening around them. Cell phones, texting, watching movies on those little screens, you must be kidding. Computers have also taken the art out of life. What used to be done by hand like sign painting, writing-seen kids penmanship lately?, and embrodery are replaced by a machine. People don't even have the time to do things because they have there noses plastered on a monitor on the web all the time or writing mindless blogs. Who cares what you think? Sorry, I will continue to listen to the radio, remember that?, talk on a regular phone and to stop and smell the roses.

Post 101 of 120

It hasn't been the same since LP's!

by stewarth - 4/25/08 6:45 AM In reply to: Poll: What do you miss most about the pre-MP3-download era? by Lee Koo (ADMIN) Moderator

Back in the day. (Way back.) One could purchase an album with cover art suitable for hanging on the wall. (Which I did frequently.) And the fold open albums were like horozontal posters! Remember the artwork on Pink Floyd's 'Wish You Were Here' album or 'Dark Side of the Moon'?

I don't think album art has been the same since LP's faded. The folded mini-posters that sometimes came with 8-tracks, cassettes, or CD's were pretty much worthless as art, but at least they were something to hold and look at while you listen.

And MP3's are basically worthless as visual art. I still listen to a lot of music. And I have copied most of my albums and cassettes over to MP3, ('Spin It Again' from Acoustica is a fantastic tool)but I have yet to find anything to replace album art.

MP3's are great, but I still miss the album art. We have replaced art with convienience.

Post 102 of 120

CD covers, liner notes, and shopping

by starfish223` - 4/25/08 10:10 AM In reply to: Poll: What do you miss most about the pre-MP3-download era? by Lee Koo (ADMIN) Moderator

I miss shopping for CDs. It was always an adventure to go to a record/cd store and try to find new music that I liked. I loved reading the liner notes, sometimes the lyrics, and enjoyed the album cover artwork. I loved learning about music from my friends, and being given gifts of favorite songs all copied just for me. I still really like having my cds all lined up in alphabetical order, even though the new music is on the ipod.

I don't miss the hassle of restarting my cd player at parties because the autoplay feature wasn't working. I do like creating playlists, but it is all kind of abstract. I miss the tangible aspect of owning cds.

Post 103 of 120

Not much

by serarango - 4/25/08 11:06 AM In reply to: Poll: What do you miss most about the pre-MP3-download era? by Lee Koo (ADMIN) Moderator

I don't miss a lot. Because I still buy cds in Tower Records (It still exists in Colombia)and Amazon. It is true I download music from e-music and sometimes some difficult to get songs from peer to peer networks. What I want to miss, and still can't are those incredibly high prices for cds. These companies are hastening their demise. And something else, I care for quality of sound, not something mp3 and other compresion formats can deliver. So vinyl and newer cds are just better. Music in mp3 just becomes bubble gum music.

Post 104 of 120

I miss several things...

by jlawrence50 - 4/25/08 11:40 AM In reply to: Poll: What do you miss most about the pre-MP3-download era? by Lee Koo (ADMIN) Moderator

First let me say that the age group of the respondents to this poll is apparent - the "I don't miss anything" group nearly out-polled every other group. Too bad for them. I miss the liner notes because I was always interested in the back story that often accompanied an album or a CD. More than that I miss browsing for hours in record stores, seeing what was there, finding new artists, and most of all, sampling. That's right: when I was young, and 45's were still the rage, I could walk into my local platter palace and hear the record before I paid the $.50 it cost to buy it. Ah, the good old days....

Post 105 of 120

What I miss most about the pre-mp3 days...

by zysmith - 4/25/08 11:53 AM In reply to: Poll: What do you miss most about the pre-MP3-download era? by Lee Koo (ADMIN) Moderator

Vinyl.

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