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Wii vs Xbox360 vs Ps3 2
by Loktoar - 10/17/06 5:11 PMOK. This is a continuation of the original Wii vs Xbox360 vs Ps3 forum. Ill start by what I think about the consoles.
In terms of hardware:
Wii: the wii is like the nery school kid. Weak, and childish. (BTW my oppinion is that nin is only focusing on gameplay because they know that they cant compete with MS and sony in graphics, so they swep that fact under the mat)
360: A regular guy. Good physical condition. Good all around.
Ps3: A world class body builder. Extremely strong. Dont want to get in a fight with him.
Games:
Wii: Dont like any games for it except metroid prime3. Most are just sequals of old games or games already out for the 360. Most are kiddy and only interest nintendo fans.
360: lots of good titles. Like perfect dark zero, assasins creed, battlefield2, bioshock, blazing angels, COD 2 and 3, DOA 4, oblivion, far cry, fear, gears of war, halo 3, halo wars, lost planet, lost oddesy, NFS carbon, over g fighters, prey, saints row, tenchu senran, splinter cell double agent and rainbow six vegas.
PS3: the only game Im exited about so far are resistance fall of man and lair. A lot of games for the ps3 are also games already out for the 360.
The outcome:
Well, its only a matter of time before sony goes out of business (their stock is falling by the day), so sony fans are going to have to look for a nw console. Since a lot of ps3 games are already out for the 360 theyll probably get that. Plus, sony fans like games like god of war and enchanted arms, so theyll probably go for the 360. I dont think sony fans like games like wario ware, mario, rayman, and barnyard, so I think theyll stay away from the wii. Plus, if their willing to pay 600 bucks for a ps3, theyll certainly be willing to pay 400 bucks for a 360. I dont think the care too much about a motion sensing controller. So, all (or most) sony fans will convert to 360 fans, so all the sony 3rd party developers will go with them. Nintendo will have to be happy with its 15% of gamers market.
Note: Nin fans are calling the wiimote revolutionary, but I dont hear them calling the ps3 tilt function revolutionary (even though its a cheap rip off). Dosnt it focus on gameply like the wiimote? So from what I can concur, nin fans call it revolutionary as long as its nintendo, but if its another company, its not. Just a thought.
Anyway just say what you think and join our descussion. Please refreain from personal insults such as calling people retards and whatnot.
Game Over
by Sect95 - 10/17/06 6:33 PM In reply to: Wii vs Xbox360 vs Ps3 2 by LoktoarYou are wise.You described the Wii,360,and PS3 perfectly as they are.IN time gamers will lose interst on the ps3 as you said and sony will be no more.The next target will be the wii,and Ms will stand alone.That is until a new company shall rise to comete against ms.This cycle will continue.
But hey,sony had a good run.
We can all agree
by Loktoar - 10/18/06 2:31 PM In reply to: Game Over by Sect95that sony is going out of business. But, they had a nice go and we must congradulate them for that. I think that all the ps3 fans will go to 360, and so MS will have the majority of the gaming market while nin is left with only theeir average 15%.
i dont agree!
by ghfsfdgd - 12/28/06 9:02 PM In reply to: Game Over by Sect95the $600 is everything. for the 360 to have everything the 600$ ps3 it would cost the $700(360=$400 hd-dvd=$200 and exturnal not as good and wifi $100)not to mention blu-ray holds 200gb max where hd dvd will be maxed out at 45gb or 60gb idk and bluray are going to be use for ps3 game where hd dvd is only for videos. this is so the outside is the same then the processors are different.if u dont need the wifi for extra hard drive then get the $500 ps3>$600($400 360 +$200 hd dvd). the only thing xbox has is live oh wait sony added that and look its free and can play up to 40 player. 40 thats crazy. ps3 will have most game likes it always does. and xbox is dead now. much better to get a wii or ps3. yea wii doent really have any good games. i have never been a zelda fan i kinda got bored of it. im more of a mutiplyer guy i have highspeed so the online play will be great for me. the only game i wanna play is the super smash. the n64 ss was better then the gc ss.
so get a wii if u have a kid under 10 or just like the classics and on a buget. get a ps3 if u can aford it. xbox360 is for halo if your a big fan.
I agree
by sonymaster101 - 1/31/07 4:21 PM In reply to: i dont agree! by ghfsfdgdyea, the ps3 is for graphics and the wii is for kid games. I think that the whole market share will remain the same, and sony will keep majority and nintendo and microsoft will fight for the rest. You have to remember, the wii is still a poor value compared to the ps2, which has been proven to be successful, and supports dvd playback, and is cheaper than the wii (150 bucks!). when will nintendo get it together and install a dvd drive stock with their consoles?
I disagree
by ackmondual - 1/31/07 5:48 PM In reply to: I agree by sonymaster101Uhmm, the PS2 is a 7 year old system. Ya gotta go by MSRP, in which case the Wii ($250) with its better graphics and new control is STILL cheaper than the PS2 ($300). Recall, in terms of graphics..... PS3 > Wii > GC > PS2. If you still want to go by current situation, the SNES, NES, and even Dreamcast can still go head to head vs PS2. HUGE library of games, and the consoles and games can be picked up for mega-cheap.
And can we really say that the PS1 and PS2 will be any indication of PS3's success? Remember, that's what people said about n64 going by NES and SNES' success.
The Wii may get a DVD firmware/software upgrade. If not then it should be noted that standalone DVD players are as cheap as $40. I'd venture a guess even the cheapest of them are at least on par with PS2's DVD player. Also, as of the end of 2006, DVD players have finally surpassed VCRs in ownership, so you can bet that most people already have one. Furthermore, many Americans have a computer in their homes. Even the most basic PCs from 2 years ago came standard with DVD players, so that's another layer of coverage right there. Even if one didn't have a DVD player, keep in mind.....
Wii + DVD player MUCH CHEAPER than PS3
Wii + DVD player BETTER GRAPHICS than PS2
PS3's HD content is certainly nice, esp. when devs learn to really use it (given the complexity of HD and the Cell processor, give it 2 to 3 years at least?), but according to Wikipedia, only 33mil HD users out of estimated 330mil US population. That's only 10.9% of the US with HD!! Word is the rest of the world is slower in HD adaptation. This estimated figure sound familiar? It should, it's only somewhat larger than Mac's share in the computer OS market. Whereas few ppl are reaping the better quality of HD now (low selection of HD movies and HD programming), people can at least dive into DVD movies now, for much cheaper
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by daciple - 4/16/08 12:23 PM In reply to: Game Over by Sect95I love it yall thought you could look into the future and now all your words are comming back to bite you in the arse...PS3 dead hahahaha that is so funny...here it is 4-2008 and last month the ps3 out sold the 360 a trend that will continue inveitablity from now on...Let me look into the future... 2010 the wii and 360 are both out of the market with both nintendo and mircosoft probally releasing new console to compete with the PS3 dominace in the market place due to the fact that the people at sony were smart enough to invest in FUTURE TECHNOLOGY...something neither nintendo or mircosoft did... Maybe the wii is still around just because it is a great family system...but the 360 will be over n dead just like the orginal xbox sorry 4 yr life cycle...While PS3 continues to pwn all systems till 2015 when they release the ps4 that will once again dominate the 360 2
Hahahaha you people didnt realize then that Sony is in this for the long haul not just 2-4 yrs like mircosoft...They make machines that have 10 yr life cycles look at psx and ps2 all lasted about 10 yrs...once xbox release its new console it completely disowns its previous one while sony keeps on making great games for thier previous console ( God of War as an example)
And since hddvd is dead noone is gonna buy the 360 for HD capablities but people will buy the PS3 just for HD content
Xbox360 got pwn just like all you people who predicted the end of Sony hahaha They have just begun to take over i think you should be playing some Jay-z to go along with it hahahaha
Totally disagree!
by njustus7 - 10/17/06 6:43 PM In reply to: Wii vs Xbox360 vs Ps3 2 by LoktoarI couldn't disagree more, I'm an avid gamer, I've played all three systems, and the Wii is clearly the most exciting system coming out. I can already think of five games I want at launch, and I can only think of three games for xbox 360 after it's been out for nearly a year.
I'm not excited about any of the PS3 titles and I really think Sony's hiding something as to their ability to produce the unit. I have PS3 pre-order, I was number three in line at an ebgames, and I doubt I will get one before the start of next year.
And don't get me started about the Xbox 360 HD DVD player expansion which will not support games or true HDMI. Also the "basic" system means developers have to to produce their games for the lowest common denominator which is why games that should run smoothly like Oblivion have five minute load times every 20 minutes...
No, in my opinion the Wii is the only unit with capability to expand their market and truly make a splash with something revolutionary (wish they kept that name). You were probably one of the PSP backer over the DS, well look how the mobile handheld unit with less power is doing now versus it's more expensive PSP brethren...
I disagree with you
by Loktoar - 10/18/06 2:46 PM In reply to: Totally disagree! by njustus7I dont really find anything exciting about the wii. Except for a new controller and the ability to play really old games, its basically a gamecube in a different box. The only upgrede to the wii over the GC is the graphics card which has been described as "slightly better". Except for that, its hardware specs and preformance are identical to the GC. I also speculating there will be a problem with the motion sensing since nin is new to its technology.
Please, tell me those wii and 360 games you are excited about. The only wii game that interests me is MP3. I like that series very much.
The HD-DVD player is for the sole purpose of watching movies in HD. I am sorta miffed about HDMI thing, but still 1080i looks amazing (after you get use to HD, you never go back to regular TV's). The add on is not to play games on. I own oblivion and it works very smoothly. No 5 minuite loding times.
Well, the reason the DS was so popular, is that its games are mostly better than PSP games (but there are some really good psp games too). But there are also a lot of kiddy games for the DS too.
I cant totally agree
by Myqe - 11/17/06 6:17 PM In reply to: Totally disagree! by njustus7On one note i can agree with the wii being something exciting the 360 is an all around good machine and as far as titles go out of the console wars go the wii will always second or a close third.I only have one more comment every household will have an Xbox 360 or an Ps3 but the secondary system will be the wii
Good Say...
by brinda1 - 1/3/07 12:14 AM In reply to: Totally disagree! by njustus7I'm a 360 fan and I've posted 2 comments already on this alpha guy's shallow opinions. The Wii is very exciting and it definetly has room for expansion. Although I belive the 360 is the better of the 3, the Wii is definetly close. The PS3 is just not worth 600 dollars. True the capacity of the discs is larger but guess what...you can easily fit a game into a 45MB disc!!! No need for blu ray....HDMI looks better anyway, I can prove it!!! And just to let you know, 360 does support games for HDMI...
I couldnt disagree more
by Gamerhenry - 10/17/06 7:05 PM In reply to: Wii vs Xbox360 vs Ps3 2 by LoktoarNow I'm not going to comment on all that was said but I dont think your giving Nintendo he credit it deserves.
As far as Sony goes, they got the hardware and what seems to be a good handfull of games but as stated they have had many techniqual issues that I think will put them bak alot if they dont pull it together. I feel though that regardless of that, they will still in the end sell more than the 360.
The 360 is as far as I'm concerned, out of the race. They made the huge mistake of comming out a year before the rest. As a result of jumping the gun they missed out on their big selling period. Many dont want to dive in and pay $400 when its the only next gen console out. Should have taken their time to perfect the specs to compete with Playstation since both cant win.
In my opinion, the Wii has at least 2nd place in the bag cause there is no room for 3 consoles out there. There just isnt. And with sony and Microsoft both playin the same game, only one will come out on top. Wherase Nintendos console is cheap, inovative and goes in a completely different direction. Meaning that which ever console gets kicked out of the powerhouse battle, (cough 360!cough) the Wii will overake them.
That is of course if Nintendo doesnt beat both of them. Now I know that the Wii doesnt have the power or graphics that the others do but at this point, graphics dont mean as much as they used to (to me at least) However Nintendo doesnt need graphics to impress. Nintendo has inovation and originality. For example, the "Wiimote" your probably sick and tired of hearing about it but it is an amazing device that completely alters they way we will play the games. So what if the PS3 can swivle from side to side? What good is that!?! Dont try to tell me that little feature can compete with using the Wiimote like a gun or a sword (lightsaber man, oh yeah). Or using it to fish ot throw a football. The possibilities ar endless people. Now that is going to atract alot of gamers.
I know alot of people are thinking,"so what? All Nintendo has is that overated Wiimote. Its just not enough to win them the console war." And that is a valide point but who ever said that was all. everything about the wii is inovative and jsu damb cool. The exclusive games like Metroid, Mario, Zelda, those alone are enough for me. Also the virtual console and tons of others.
because of this the Wii might just come out on top. All I'm sayin is dont be so quick to count Nintendo out.
Nin is already out
by Loktoar - 10/18/06 4:22 PM In reply to: I couldnt disagree more by GamerhenrySony, for those of you who dont know, is dooing very poorly in the markets. Their stocks are falling by the day (one day shares went from $40 to $37. In one day!) and at this rate theyll be out of business pretty quick.
360 comming out first comming out before is a double edges sword. They have a lead on sales (ms estimated 10 million 360s sold by endo of 06), but they missed the big release where all the new consoles come out. Why wouldnt people pay for it? Sales show that people already have.
Actually, there is room for 3 consoles out there. So what if nins console is cheap? Remember you get what you pay for. Innovation is the only thing nin can say they have (imo i really dont care about the controller though). The only people tha care about the controller are the nin fans. Everybody else dosnt care about it. I speculate there will be huge problems with the controller though. One guy at a nin event was asked how far you can move away from the console and he said that you cant go more than 4 meters. So basically you will be glued to the screen.
Graphics do matter actually (nin fans are saying they dont because they know they look last gen).
Lets say the controller is interesting as you say it is, whats the use of it if there are no good games to play with it. Zelda and mario are terrible! They are soooo repetative. Especially mario. Thats a well nintendo is drawing water from that went dry long ago. Plus, most of the other games for the wii are so kiddy, its not even funny.
If anyone is going down this gen, its nintendo.
xbox wanted 10 mill a while ago!
by ghfsfdgd - 12/28/06 9:13 PM In reply to: Nin is already out by Loktoarwhen the xbox launched bill gate said it would sell over 10mill buy the time the ps3 release in spring. the ps3 lauch got moved back so it gave xbox more time. they still have not reached 10mill and there geting a lot of sales because ps3 is having problems with bluray and desides to be nice and not sell them to people untill perfict. xbox360 released last year it had tons of problems microsoft was just tryingmto get as many as it could. i know some1 who had to get a xbox 3 times. and about month ago a xbox at best buy still has a glitch cuz the wheel was red. netendo really doesnt have any problems because its just a new gc. i didnt like the gc cuz it controler but now it has a nice controler and smaller. gc was ugly wii is pretty nice so is the ps3. xbox360 i dont think will even pass 30mill.
response
by bevillan - 10/19/06 9:43 AM In reply to: I couldnt disagree more by GamerhenryI think you have the viewpoint on the 360 being a year early compared to the PS3 and Wii is off. Over 6 million people have bought 360s and 4 million users are on XBL...those numbers tell me that people are buying the 360 enmass.
The 360 offers a good alternative to those who will not be able to find a PS3 this holiday season since the supply of the PS3 will be small. The two consoles have similar performance capabilities, but the PS3 only wins out on native 1080p, BR, and an HDMI cable (for now at least).
Sony probably will still have the most market share when it is said and done, but MS will gain ground, especially with Sony not meeting their supply goals this holiday season (the most important time period for video game console sales).
The Wii in my opinion will be fun, but more geared for the casual gamer or someone who is not a gamer at all. Experience gamers will not like the lack of HD and lesser graphics. The Wiimote, I think, will be great for gameplay for certain games, but clumsy for others likes FPS games. Also, its novelty could wear off quickly given how used we all are to conventional controllers.
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