Digital cameras: Which Entry Level DSLR
Which Entry Level DSLR
by Christopera - 4/2/08 6:46 PMHello,
I am looking at two DSLR's, the Canon EOS Rebel Xt, and the Canon Rebel XTI. Now I understand that the XT is old kit, but from many reviews I have read the benefits are few and from the XTI. In many cases users prefer the dual display on the XT and becuase the megapixel is lower on the XT but the sensors are the same on both many say that the XT takes less grainy photos than the XTI. In addition, the XT is a good bit cheaper.
I will be using the camera for wildlife, car racing, and family shots. I am a student and small business owner that needs something a bit more advanced than my point and shoot but nothing on par with professional grade kit. Money is an issue.
As you may have guessed I am leaning towards the XT. However, I am intersted to hear any pros and cons that perhaps some experienced users may have with these two cameras.
Thanks in advance.
up to you
by kalel33 - 4/2/08 8:17 PM In reply to: Which Entry Level DSLR by ChristoperaChanges made from XT to XTi upgrade
10.1 megapixel CMOS sensor with improved microlens array, fill factor and lower noise
EOS Integrated Cleaning System
Anti-static coatings on sensor surfaces plus anti-dust materials in the camera body
Separate low pass filter with ultra-sonic vibration
Software based dust mapping / removal
Nine point Auto Focus sensor (same as EOS 30D) with F2.8 support
Continuous shooting burst up to 27 JPEG and 10 RAW images
Single large, bright, 2.5" LCD monitor with 160° viewing angles (horizontal and vertical)
Camera settings and adjustment on LCD monitor
Proximity sensor below viewfinder eyepiece to disable the LCD during composition
New viewfinder view includes 9 AF points as well as EOS 30D style status bar
Picture Styles, larger range of image parameter adjustment (same as EOS 30D)
Improved user interface
Image magnification available in record review
Histogram available as brightness (Luminance) or RGB (Red, Green, Blue)
Three settings for long exposure noise reduction (adds Auto option)
Auto rotation with three options (not recorded, record don't rotate, record and rotate)
Additional custom functions (magnified view in record review, LCD display at power on)
Up to 9999 images per folder on storage card
Automatic storage of setting adjustments (no longer requires a press of the SET button)
Improved print / share / direct print features
If these improvements are worth the extra money for you then get the XTI.....if not, the XT will work well for you.
I will check it out
by Christopera - 4/4/08 9:25 AM In reply to: Try Olympus! by marioflI will take a look at some of the reviews and such for the Olympus. FPS is fairly important to me but not real critical. I do some time shoot fast moving objects.
I do really like Canon products though. They have always been really good to me with their point and shoot products.
No offense to Olympus owners,
by jump1127 - 4/4/08 10:28 PM In reply to: I will check it out by Christoperabut the truth is that when shooting ISO above 400, the noise is level is bad. Visit www.dpreview.com for the review of Olypus comparing to Nikon and Canon. When comparing the picture quality, Canon and Nikon ( with the similar category specfication and pricing )perform better than Olympus. In my opinion, go for Nikon or Canon, they build a better camera.
Good Info
by Christopera - 4/6/08 7:24 AM In reply to: No offense to Olympus owners, by jump1127Thanks for the info.
It almost seems to me that based on the price point alone that the XT is a better fit than the XTi or any of the olympus. I am on a really tight budget with this and I think the XT is enough of a camera for me. On NewEgg.com the Xt can be had for $450 with a kit lense. While the XTI is $560 with a kit lense. Granted the XTi has some updates but I am more or less an amatuer who will not be qualified enough to really take advantage of most of the bells and whistles on even the XT. I believe with my low skill level it makes more sense to save some money and after becoming more adept at shooting make a step up to the XTi or something better. Besides, the 8mp shots will take up less of my hard drive (this is me justifying the older model even though i'd really like the new one).
A better price yet
by Christopera - 4/8/08 4:43 PM In reply to: Good Info by ChristoperaI found the XT even cheaper yet. It looks like you can get the body for just $280. Any info on these deals?
Canon Xt for $280?
by snapshot2
- 4/8/08 7:21 PM
In reply to: A better price yet by Christopera
That price sounds too good to be true.
If you found that site by using Google ... you have probably been directed to one of the bait and switch stores that operate out of Brooklyn, NY.
Google has a lot of "Sponsored Links" that pop up when you do a search on a camera. Several of these links are run by "bait and switch" operations.
Be very careful about giving them your credit card number.
Before you buy from any company you are not familiar with, do the following:
Do a Google search on the name of the company and look for a review.
Example:
Search for
techondigital.com review
That will turn up a lot of sites that rate the sellers.
Two of my favorite ones are:
resellerratings.com and epinions.com
See what they say about the company you want to buy from.
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Canon Xt for $280 - Be very careful.
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Great advice!
by Christopera - 4/9/08 5:23 AM In reply to: Canon Xt for $280? by snapshot2
Thanks. I figured it was too good to be true but wasn't exactly sure how to provie it.
Purchasing an inexpensive dSLR
by forkboy - 4/11/08 5:56 PM In reply to: Which Entry Level DSLR by ChristoperaI too selected a Canon dSLR (the relatively new 40D) because of my long-time use of the Canon digital point-n-shoots. That said the Nikon cameras are also very nice and it's very unlikely you would go wrong purchasing from either company.
Besides the Olympus there are other manufacturers that offer well-made entry-level dSLRs (including Samsung, Pentax, Sony, etc.), but I think the real advantage to staying with either Canon or Nikon will be the lenses (that is, those from Canon and Nikon).
However, I really want to offer a bit of advice/warning regarding these entry-level dSLRs from Canon and Nikon: they do not support all of the lenses made by their respective manufacturers. Please be careful when looking to purchase lenses and be certain they are compatible with whatever camera you ultimately select for purchase.
could be wrong
by kalel33 - 4/12/08 8:51 PM In reply to: Purchasing an inexpensive dSLR by forkboyI'm pretty sure that all lens work for the entry-level DSLRs for Canon. All EF and EF-S lens fit the xxD and xxxD cameras. Now EF-S lens will not fit the full frame sensor cameras. You might have been thinking in the wrong direction of compatibility.
If wildlife and car racing(both being far from the subject), you might think of just buying a superzoom point and shoot. The telephoto lens that produce very good image quality cost quite a bit. I don't believe the 75-300mm is even produced anymore due to the problems of image quality. The replacements appear to be the 70-300mm or the 55-250mm.
The body is just the tip of the iceberg with DSLRs, and can be a very expensive hobby with even getting good lens(not great).
Old Advice
by mwooge - 4/14/08 6:23 AM In reply to: could be wrong by kalel33Since the question of lenses has come up, it might be a good idea to buy the lens first then the camera to fit it.
Lens choices
by Pinetree3 - 4/12/08 3:24 AM In reply to: Which Entry Level DSLR by ChristoperaYou mentioned that you want to use the camera for wildlife and car racing. In both cases you will probably be some distance from your subject. This would necessitate a longer lens than the kit lens that comes with either camera. That is ok, since this is what DSLR are made for: serving as a platform for a choice of lenses. In either case you will want to keep the kit lens for general/family shots use.
As a beginner DSLR shooter on a budget, I would recommend the Canon EF 75-300 f/4-5.6 III Autofocus. This runs under $200, but gives you plenty of reach for those distance shots. You will also want to purchase a UV filter to protect your lenses. (These start at about $25 each).
Good luck!
OK
by Christopera - 4/12/08 7:26 AM In reply to: Lens choices by Pinetree3Thanks.
I already starting looking at longer lenses but am not entirely sure what the filters are for (protection i guess). I really liked the canon becuase it seemed that even the kit lenses will work on some of their better cameras.
I do have a good bit of experience with film slr so I plan on doing most of my own focusing. I am not sure if I will be good enough or not, but I figure that since i get a few pretty nice shots out of each roll I am probably doing the right thing by getting a digital to practice with.
Camera Upgrade
by huntnlabs - 4/12/08 8:24 AM In reply to: OK by ChristoperaAnother possible way to get a higher end camera for a price within your budget would be to buy a factory reconditioned camera. I've had one for several years and when I'm able to upgrade to a better camera I'll look for a reconditioned one. I'm leaning toward a Nikon D60 or something with similar qualities and functions. From the advise I've gotten it will be Nikon or Cannon. Those two are what the majority of professional photographers use.
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