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Computer help: Windows Vista for a new computer?
Thank you
by Lluraeden - 4/11/08 5:48 PM In reply to: Just a few quibbles by Jimmy GreystoneSo what I'm hearing is that Vista has a lot of nice features, but at the price of a power consuming OS and a slightly glitchy design?
Well
by Jimmy Greystone - 4/12/08 12:20 PM In reply to: Thank you by LluraedenWell, I'd say if you take nothing else away from all of this... It's that Vista really offers nothing compelling over XP.
It also marks the point at which Microsoft has pushed the current Windows code base about as far as it can go. So, the next version of Windows will likely be a large departure from everything we've come to know about Windows. So if you get a new computer now with Vista, you may well be putting yourself into a bit of a dead end path.
If your current computer is serving your needs, I'd just hold off. Vista has been such a tough sell for Microsoft, there's a lot of talk of them moving up the schedule for Windows 7, which is rumored to be a complete rewrite of Windows from the ground up. Also not even attempting to maintain any kind of backwards compatibility with previous versions. You might just want to try and ride it out a little longer with your current system. Or, there's always the option of buying a Mac. They're not exactly cheap, but you get a very comprehensive solution compared to your average PC.
next windows
by [xiong.chiamiov] - 4/13/08 4:05 PM In reply to: Well by Jimmy GreystoneI'm just hoping MS finally gets over their pride and builds the next Windows around some Unix-like core. Seriously, no matter how bastardized it is, it'll still be a great improvement. And besides, everyone's doing it these days.
Vista is the best!!
by Grimbles - 4/12/08 4:29 PM In reply to: Thank you by LluraedenLluraeden - I have had a dual boot system (XP Home and Vista Home Premium) for over 6 months on my 3 year old Dell desktop so I have a very good basis for comparison....Vista is by far the best.
Sure, it needs better, more beefy hardware specs to run it but if you are buying a brand new computer isn't that what you will be looking for anyway? Surely no-one would be interested in buying a new computer with specs that were applicable 3 years ago.
I read one comment that said XP needed only 512mb RAM to run whereas Vista needs an absolute minimum of 1gb (2gb prefered).....Vista isn't the only software which is demanding more memory...as security products and other programs evolve they are also utilising more RAM.......The reason I initially upgraded my RAM from 512mb to 2gb was not for Vista but rather to run Trend Micro Internet Security 2007, it just would not function properly with only 512mb....so more RAM is now the norm - it is called progress!
I hardly ever boot into XP these days (mostly just to keep everything updated)....and whenever I do it looks and feels so clunky and passe compared to Vista.
I have experienced very few issues with Vista, certainly no more than I have with XP.....the learning curve was a short one and familiarisation happened very quickly.....do yourself a favour; New, better, more up to date computer + New, better, more up to date OS = Vista......don't listen to the detractors (most of whom have little or no personal experience and are just repeating the mantra).
re: Vista is the best!!
by [xiong.chiamiov] - 4/13/08 4:12 PM In reply to: Vista is the best!! by GrimblesY'know, just because it's newer doesn't mean it's better...
I, too, rarely boot into XP, but that's 'cause I'm using Kubuntu, which, dare I saw, looks very nice and functions wonderfully. And, not only do I not require an anti-virus product, but my OS actually manages my RAM well! Amazing!
Linux!
by Lluraeden - 4/13/08 4:27 PM In reply to: re: Vista is the best!! by [xiong.chiamiov]I was actually thinking of dual booting with Ubuntu. Then I was looking and I saw that there were about 5 different versions of Ubuntu; Kubuntu, edbuntu etc. which one would you recommend?
I didn't say coz it's newer it must be better!!
by Grimbles - 4/13/08 10:35 PM In reply to: re: Vista is the best!! by [xiong.chiamiov]I said I have compared the two (XP and Vista) side by side in a dual boot system for over 6 months....that is what I based my comments on.
By your own admission you do not have Vista installed so how can you possibly comment?
As for Linux, I had Ubuntu (7.10) installed for 4 months, after a multitude of unsolved issues I finally gave it away as a lost cause; no sound, incorrect time and date display, no drivers for Canon MP800 multi function, wi-fi connectivity, Ipod management...just to name a few.
Anyway, this thread is about XP and Vista NOT Linux...please try and keep on track.
Stay on task
by Lluraeden - 4/14/08 3:13 PM In reply to: I didn't say coz it's newer it must be better!! by GrimblesYou're right sorry.
I didn't think I had entered a debate
by Dango517 - 4/11/08 6:57 PM In reply to: Just a few quibbles by Jimmy GreystoneYour entitle to your opinion. I have mine.
re: Vista is far superior to XP
by [xiong.chiamiov] - 4/13/08 4:09 PM In reply to: Vista is far superior to XP by Dango517Oh man, you made me laugh so hard, it was almost as good as that local FOX news report about anonymous (look it up!).
I must say that there's something wrong if you're getting *any* viruses, and only getting two is not a good thing... In my 5 or so years running XP, I *never* caught a virus, and I was doing some pretty high-risk stuff, too. And User Account Control? A good idea, but poorly implemented. It's like the sucky version of sudo.
What?
by jbhenry - 4/14/08 6:06 AM In reply to: Vista is far superior to XP by Dango517Quoting <b>"In the year I've owned Vista I've had only two viruses infect this PC. It is more secure."</b>
What? ONLY two? Two is still two too many, and is hardly a testament to how secure Vista is. In many years of running XP, I've had NO viruses. Zero. None. Nada. Staying virus-free IMHO is more about proper use of anti-virus, and safe computing habits, than the OS, anyway.
When I ran XP I had two viruses a month.
by Dango517 - 4/14/08 9:22 AM In reply to: What? by jbhenryThat two in a year with Vista.
I'm running XP again. Someone gave me an XP computer last night. I've only been on it a few hours and already having trouble. USB driver down load caused a system crash and I was lucky to get it running again. uninstall programs, check event viewer, used restore points, had to scroll through it with the arrow keys to get to disk manager, (I had other problems were I had to get around with the arrow keys when I used it before.) etc., etc.... Spend hours on it. Don't have those sorts of problems on Vista. This brief experience has reminded me of all the problems I had with it. I'll never go back.
Windows Vista for a new Computer
by Ron Geiken - 4/11/08 6:19 PM In reply to: Windows Vista for a new computer? by LluraedenI have a computer that I bought in August of 2007, and initially it had a lot of problems, but as of April 11, 2008, my computer is very stable and glad that I have Vista installed. I have a quad Intel 6600 processor and 4 gig of ram which might be overkill for most people, but sure is nice to use. You can get computers like that from Fry's Electronics on their Friday specials. If you get Vista, make sure that you get a 24" wide screen monitor. You can add Windows Gadgets on the right side of the screen with Time, Date, Weather, Computer performance, and many other usable functions as "Gadgets". You then will have a computer that you will be well satisfied with 5 or more years from now. My Firefox 2 launches in about 5 seconds, Thunderbird in about 2 to 3 seconds, and Word and Excel in just a second or two. They also all operate quickly too. All of my other programs work quickly too. You will also probably want to disable Microsoft's UAC (User Access Control) too. If you do this, the computer will operate about as well as XP which I have had in several past computers. At this point, I find Vista to be an excellent O/S. I think that you will like it too. Getting XP in a modern computer would be a retroactive move. Remember, the more powerful the computer, the better the Vista experience will be. Also be sure to install a good Firewall and anti virus program. I have Zone Alarm Free and AVG Free, and they both seem to work very well.
Vista is the best
by RDO CA - 4/11/08 7:39 PM In reply to: Windows Vista for a new Computer by Ron GeikenBuy Vista in a new computer and you will not be sorry as it is the best around. I have had vista for about 14 months and only had a very few problems in the first couple months as some companys did not have good vista drivers at launch. You need a dual or quad core processor and 2-4 GB of ram and a good way to see if it has enough video card is see if the windows experience rating is 3 or higher. If you try to use very old software or hardware you might have problems but if it is fairly new you wont. Most people bad mouthing Vista did not know what they were doing or tried to use old hard or soft or update a old computer that did not have enough Horse Power. When you first get it spend some time turning off most of the junk loading by going to te startup menu and unchecking them. With SP1 almost all problems are gone and it is a little more responsive.
go for it you will be glad you did.
Roy
Vista is OK
by coolsystems - 4/12/08 9:29 AM In reply to: Vista is the best by RDO CAI just got a new Dell XPS computer with a Quad core processor,& 4 GB DDR2 ram.it runs vista pretty good.I also have a Dell Dimension 4600 with a 2.8GH P4 processor,& 512MB DDR ram.It rums Xp fine.I have the 4600 setup to dual boot XP & vista,& have been running vista ultimate since the RTM came out(nov or dec 2006 I think).It runs slow on the dimension with 512MB ram(I use a 2GB flash drive for Readyboost,it helps some).But it runs ok.the only problem I had was with my creative labs soundblaster LIVE sound card.But after some tinkering I got it to work.
Now on my new system, which is very fast,vista runs great,it may run faster than XP does on my old system.Vista is not THAT bad if you give it a chance,It definatly is nothing close to being as bad as the Windows ME fiasco-I was building custom computers at the time,& after about the 5th or 6th one I went back to win 98se.I personally think windows ME was an expensive public beta test to get ready to merge windows 98 & windows 2000 into windows XP.
If you are getting a new system with modern hardware,I would get vista
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