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Digital cameras: Swivel LCDs?

by eagrimm - 4/4/08 6:08 AM
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Swivel LCDs?

by eagrimm - 4/4/08 6:08 AM

I'm looking for a new digital camera (upgrading from a 3MP Canon S30). I've seen folks walking around with digital cameras that have swivel LCDs, which allow you to preview self-portraits. This seemed like a neat feature which would allow me to easily take pictures of my husband and me together. I haven't been able to find many models that have this feature so far. Is there a reason for this (ie: some problem with flip-screens that causes them to break, etc)?

I've seen some cheap-looking "hybrids" that claim to be a digital camera and camcorder in one, like the Mustek DV520T. I'm very suspicious of an all-in-one on the cheap like this, but if anyone has thoughts about these hybrid models as an alternative to digital cameras, I'd be interested to hear them. The reason I mention this is that the hybrids seem to have the flip/swivel LCD more often than pure cameras do.

Bottom line: I'm interested in taking pictures that are good quality but wouldn't be printed bigger than 8x10, and I'd like the ability to shoot brief videos too. I'm more of a point and shoot person, but a lot of buttons and features don't bother me. I'm hoping not to spend much more than 400-500, but I'm flexible. But, I'm interested in a swivel LCD, too. I primarily use Macintosh computers. Are there any models out there that would fit the bill?

Post 2 of 20

Swivel LCDs

by snapshot2 Moderator - 4/4/08 7:15 AM In reply to: Swivel LCDs? by eagrimm

Mustek digital camcorders.
These are cameras that are designed and built in China.
The video ability is the same as any digital camera.
But the still image ability is not as good as a digital camera.

Take a look at the Canon TX1.
It is designed to look like a camcorder, but it is also a very capable still camera.

I will give you a list of digital cameras with a flip LCD later today.

Why there are so few flip designs:
...it adds cost to the camera.

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Post 3 of 20

Swivel LCDs

by eagrimm - 4/4/08 7:54 AM In reply to: Swivel LCDs by snapshot2 Moderator

The TX-1 certainly looks interesting, but I haven't seen any pictures of it with the LCD swiveled to the front. I'm thinking of something like what's pictured here: http://www.oreillynet.com/pub/a/oreilly/digitalmedia/2005/03/09/casio_p505.html
Basically, it allows you to point the camera at yourself and see a preview on the LCD. Do you happen to know if the TX-1 has that kind of capability?

Thanks so much for your help!

Post 4 of 20

All of the swivel screens I have seen can swivel to the

by Kiddpeat - 4/4/08 8:38 AM In reply to: Swivel LCDs by eagrimm

front. Even my Canon video camera's LCD can do this. I think it is a given these days, but most folks don't use them this way. Thus, it's not an advertised feature.

Post 5 of 20

Current Digital Cameras with articulate LCDs

by snapshot2 Moderator - 4/4/08 1:16 PM In reply to: Swivel LCDs by snapshot2 Moderator

I don't know if they can swivel to the front of the camera.

The Casio P505 is out of production.

Canon TX1, A650IS, S5-IS
Fujifilm S9100
Panasonic FZ50
Sony H9, H50

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Digital Camera swivel LCD name list

by eagrimm - 4/4/08 5:54 PM In reply to: Current Digital Cameras with articulate LCDs by snapshot2 Moderator

Thanks very much for providing me with a list of cameras that have the swiveling/articulated LCD. I found a model I like (the Powershot S5 IS) from a link I found while looking at the Canon model you suggested. I appreciate the help!

Post 7 of 20

Vari-Angle LCD

by fettahaha - 4/6/08 5:29 AM In reply to: Digital Camera swivel LCD name list by eagrimm

Seems like you have made your decision but I thought I would throw my two cents in...
Don't get hung up on Video Quality when purchasing a Digital Still Camera. If Video is a Priority then search for a Video Camera--that being said remember that when it comes to video often it is the content of the video that makes it good or bad--Rather than the quality of the video. Digital Still cameras shoot very adequate video but it is a far cry from what you can get from a true video camera, but they are much much smaller. Besides when it comes time to share these videos you will be making as small a digital file as possible to send/share. Even You-Tube crunches full quality video when you upload it. I prefer the ease of taking video with a small package and don't mind the quality trade off for home videos.

You will not be sorry with the decision to get the Vari-angle Lens. It really does change the way you will take photos/video. Low angle shots and self portraits will become much easier.

The S-5 is at the top of my shopping list for my next camera and I think is a very good choice. Be warned this is a pretty big digital camera--to big to fit in a shirt or pant pocket. So if small size isn't a priority you have a great camera at the top of your list.

Other Cameras to consider
PowerShot A650
PowerShot A640
PowerShot A630

Post 8 of 20

Re digital swivelLCDs

by stan303 - 4/11/08 11:41 PM In reply to: Swivel LCDs by snapshot2 Moderator

I would check out the Olympus FE310 for a second camers Specs Are 8.0 megapixel 5X Opitical zoom Takes Stills, Printable To A4 At 8. megapixels .movies with sound 17 min.on 1 gig.card. price At aprox. $180.00 Plus card .no swivel display .Mount on trypod And use time delay To be in picture

Post 9 of 20

The real reason...

by LordLiverpool2 - 9/10/09 10:09 AM In reply to: Swivel LCDs by snapshot2 Moderator

... has nothing to do with cost. Otherwise expensive high-end DSLRs would have them, and cheap point-and-shoot cameras would not. The opposite is the case. The real reason why DSLRs don't have flip designs is snobbery. They're associated with low-end consumer equipment and professional users are suspicious of them. Irrationally so, in my view, because they deliver substantial benefits and have no real drawbacks.

Post 10 of 20

Nikon Coolpix S-10 LCD Swivel Camera

by pyromate - 4/4/08 11:52 AM In reply to: Swivel LCDs? by eagrimm

The Nikon Coolpix S-10 was a friend of mine for some time. It was a very serious shooting camera with 10X Optical Zoom and the LCD screen rotated 360*. I upgraded to a DSLR and the S-10 went....somewhere. Although no longer listed in the Nikon line-up, you can view it here http://www.nikon.com/about/news/2006/0824_03.htm I found the S-10 to be a bit cumbersome to take self portraits without using the self timer, and dropped it once. Overall it was a great camera with vibration reduction and powerful zoom capabilities for creative situations. It may be back again someday in a new format.
Pyromate

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Canon sells them

by AJLC - 4/4/08 5:36 PM In reply to: Swivel LCDs? by eagrimm

Canon Models in production-Their trademark is 'vari-angle' LCD

PowerShot Pro 1
PowerShot G5
PowerShot S1 IS
PowerShot A80
PowerShot A95
PowerShot G6
PowerShot A620
PowerShot A610
PowerShot A630
PowerShot A640
PowerShot TX1
PowerShot S5 IS
PowerShot A650 IS

You might want to check out digital camera review site like
Steve's Digicam http://www.steves-digicams.com/
or
DP Review http://www.dpreview.com

You can use these sites to look for features you want.

Post 12 of 20

Thanks!

by eagrimm - 4/4/08 5:45 PM In reply to: Canon sells them by AJLC

Thanks very much for the tips. I definitely appreciate you looking up the proprietary name for the "swivel LCD" feature I was looking for - that made it a lot easier to search for. I think I'm going to go with the Powershot S5 IS. Thanks again!

Post 13 of 20

My opinion.

by Bermellon - 4/8/08 9:04 PM In reply to: Swivel LCDs? by eagrimm

Sony made a great one.
Sadly they aren't in production.
The latest ones are the DSC-F77 and the amazing DSC-F88.
Instead of the LCD, they rotate their Lenses.
Check them.

Post 14 of 20

Sony addict here...

by funkikitti - 4/10/08 7:09 AM In reply to: My opinion. by Bermellon

I had the F-88, used it for a little over a year. After finding the dsc-R1, had to have it. Pre-ordered the dsc-r1 with swivel screen. I love it!! I'm getting ready to sell it, as I have now ordered the A-700 and 350 (can't make up my mind). The 350 has a 3" swivel.

Post 15 of 20

The DSC-F88 is the Best.

by Bermellon - 4/12/08 11:30 PM In reply to: Sony addict here... by funkikitti

The DSC-F88 is a Compact Camera that fits in any pocket.
Also, the rotating lens can take pictures at any degree without using a tripod.
I prefer the DSC-F88 over a bulky camera.

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