Spyware, viruses, & security : Help! What FIREWALL is better to use, Windows or Pc-Cillin?
Help! What FIREWALL is better to use, Windows or Pc-Cillin?
by Hayeseed - 3/16/08 3:48 PMI have a question that I hope sonmeone can answer for me definitively. I am currently running Windows XP Media Center Edition (2005) and have Trend Micro Pc-Cillin anti-virus and internet security running on it. I know that you are not supposed to run both Firewalls at one time (those being the one that came with my ant-virus software and the Windows firewall) because of conflicts that can arise from doing that.
My question is threefold: (1)Which should I choose to use? (2)Which one is less taxing on my system performance-wise, or are they both about equal? (3)Are there benefits of one over the other?
Any help you have would be appreciated. Thanks.
Update
by Hayeseed - 3/16/08 3:55 PM In reply to: Help! What FIREWALL is better to use, Windows or Pc-Cillin? by HayeseedI forgot to mention that I have a wireless home network set up using a Microsoft base station and router.
Firewalls
by gsconsolvo - 3/17/08 3:29 PM In reply to: Help! What FIREWALL is better to use, Windows or Pc-Cillin? by HayeseedGo to Control Panel/Windows Firewall and just turn it off. TrendMicro has the better firewall because it monitors both incoming and outgoing, Windows firewall only monitors one way. TrendMicro may have already turned off Windows Firewall when you installed it, but if not just turn it off in control panel.
WHAT FIREWALL YOU SHOULD USE
by djlou1955 - 3/17/08 4:02 PM In reply to: Help! What FIREWALL is better to use, Windows or Pc-Cillin? by HayeseedI ALSO HAVE PC CHILLN,,AS MY VIRUS PROTECTION,,BUT I USED WINDOW FOR A FIREWALL
Help! What FIREWALL is better to use, Windows or Pc-Cillin?
by denith - 3/17/08 6:43 PM In reply to: Help! What FIREWALL is better to use, Windows or Pc-Cillin? by HayeseedI strongly suggest that you fully uninstall Pc-Cillin and get either Kaspersky 7.0 or Norton 360. Good Luck!
There many good choices, my friend bought a Vista Premium
by darclew3 - 3/17/08 8:17 PM In reply to: Help! What FIREWALL is better to use, Windows or Pc-Cillin? by denithHome Edition and has the older version of Comodo's Firewall Pro, the latest just came out. It was on filehippo.com but the actual link is:www.personalfirewall.comodo.com/ Darrell
TOTALLY [u]AGREE[/u] on Comodo Firewall!!!!!
by btljooz - 3/17/08 8:39 PM In reply to: There many good choices, my friend bought a Vista Premium by darclew3Get it here http://www.personalfirewall.comodo.com/ for FREE!
It's GREAT!!!!!
PC CILLIN>?
by djlou1955 - 3/18/08 6:27 AM In reply to: Help! What FIREWALL is better to use, Windows or Pc-Cillin? by denithSORRY TO SAY,BUT WHY ON EARTH WOULD I UNINSTALL OC CILLIN,I HAD NORTON,WHICH I THINK IS THE WORSE ANTI VIRUS AROUND,AND PLUS IT GAVE ME A VIRUS,,AND WHEN I HAD INSTALL.PC CILLIN,I'M NOT HAVING NO PROBLEMS AT ALL,CAN YOU EXPLAIN TO ME..DON'T KNOW ABOUT THE OTHER ONE YOU HAD MENTION,I RUN PC.AND WITH WINDOWS FIREWALL.AND I HAVE NO PROBLEM FOR THREE YEARS NOW.AND I AM ALSO RUNNING WINDOW PRO.
FIREWALL
by hamaker - 3/18/08 12:44 AM In reply to: Help! What FIREWALL is better to use, Windows or Pc-Cillin? by HayeseedJust use the free Zonealarm firewall. It works allright!
Thanks, but that is'nt what I'm asking...
by Hayeseed - 3/18/08 12:58 AM In reply to: FIREWALL by hamakerGuys,
Thanks for the suggestions on different software to buy or get for free--but that WASN'T what I needed help with, OR what I was asking for. I have my anti-virus software that I plan on keeping at least for the next 6 months (until my update subscription wears out), at that time I might think of switching.
so......
AGAIN, what I am asking is this--is it better to use the firewall that comes with windows, or a firewall from an anti-virus program (whether free or purchased--not important)? Does the window's firewall tax my system more than one from a third party? Does it offer better/worse security? Simple as that, I don't want suggestions on something different, simply a straight answer (if anyone has one) as to the benefits of one over the other.
firewall
by je52765 - 3/18/08 1:48 AM In reply to: Thanks, but that is'nt what I'm asking... by Hayeseedwindows firewall is a inbound firewall only. it only blocks attacts that
come from the outside. third party firewalls control installed software
access to the internet. you want to control what your software is doing.
if you do get a virus trojan or malware. your firewall should ask permission to access internet. deny it and run security programs to get
rid of breech
use 3rd party firewall that you have
the real answer is to use linux if not. then read this
by je52765 - 3/18/08 2:17 AM In reply to: firewall by je52765if your network were the only threat then a router would be perfect.
but if you use a flash drive. if you download emails that have attachments. if anybody else uses your computer. you are at risk on all sides.
if you are on a peer to peer network you will be infected.
cracked software is loaded with programs to get you.
you need to control from the inside out also.
you do not want personal info to get out.
know what your software is doing and know what is normal like updates
and what is not normal. high cpu cycles when you are not doing anything.
remember the trojan horse was just not a wooden horse.
Windows XP Firewall is fine
by gibbons47 - 3/18/08 5:17 AM In reply to: firewall by je52765By the time malware has invaded your system, it is too late. Outbound "protection" is not a way to prevent that. I use the windows xp firewall, and that is all you need. Get a good AV like Avira or Dr. Web, and you will not need to be paranoid about your firewall.
prove it
by je52765 - 3/18/08 7:30 AM In reply to: Windows XP Firewall is fine by gibbons47outbound protection is the best way to prevent it
if you have a keylogger on your system a good firewall will prevent it from sending info to the perp.
for the people that use a one way approach for a firewall
http://www.grc.com/lt/leaktest.htm
go ahead run leaktest on windows firewall.
flaws in the windows system are cracked from the outside and the inside
this is from their website.
The Windows XP built-in firewall:
The rate of LeakTest downloads jumped significantly on October 25th, 2001, presumably due to the release of Windows XP on that date.
It is understandable that new Internet savvy users of Windows XP, who are aware of our work here at grc.com, would be curious to learn about their new system and its Internet defenses.
Just so you know, WinXP's built-in firewall does not attempt to manage or restrict outbound connections at all. It appears to be a useful firewall for hiding the machine from the Internet (it has "stealth mode" unsolicited packet handling), but you will still need to use a good third-party personal firewall if you wish to manage and control outbound connections from your system.
Answer
by mustang46 - 3/18/08 1:55 AM In reply to: Thanks, but that is'nt what I'm asking... by HayeseedWindows Firewall, While Not The Best One Around, Was Designed For Windows And Will Cause The Least Amount Of Problems. Having A Wireless Router That Does NAT ( Network Address Translation ) Does Everything Else You Need. There Is No Need For A Third Party Firewall If You Have A Router And Windows Firewall; Those Are Enough. That Combination Reduces The Resources Needed For Internet Security Because The Router Takes Care Of The Large Part Of Hiding Your Computer From Hackers And Therefore Eliminates That Part Of The Resource Issue And, As Stated Before, The Windows Firewall Is Designed To Work With Windows By The Builders Of Windows. Windows Firewall Takes The Least Amount Of Resources. Your Router Does A Better Job Than Any Other Firewall.
Simple Answer: Use Windows Firewall And Your Router And Lose Any Other Firewall.
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