I have bought a lot of refurb electronics since I retired 12 years ago. VCRs, DVD players, video cams, and 5 computers. Some of these were for my own use, many were gifts to family. My favorite source is TigerDirect.com but have also used refurbdepot and heartland. All 3 stand behind their products and often offer an extended warranty at a reasonable price. I am currently using a refurb Gateway from TigerDirect with Vista home premium, a dual TV tuner, plenty of memory, disc, etc. It was much cheaper to buy that than to try to upgrade my 5 yr old HP Media Center PC. Further, my attempts to get HP to help make the computer I bought [new] from them work as advertised were totally frustrating. Some of the features never worked.
Some of the posts advised against refurb laptops. I bought 3 refurb Emerson laptops from TigerDirect last summer for my homeschooled granddaughters [10, 12, 14] at less than half the cost of similiar laptops new. One had a small problem which Tiger took care of.
I started buying refurb products almost 20 years ago when I worked for the Aerospace part of GE. I visited a GE office in El Paso that had been set up to handle customer returns of consumer electronics such as phones, radios, TVs, cassette players, etc. I learned that, industrywide, such products were rarely tested during manufacturer. GE had discovered that the failure rate was so low that it was cheaper to exchange the occasional defective product for a new one; they would then do some simple testing on the returned product. If it was easy to fix, they would do the repair and resell at half price or better. If the problem was more expensive, the unit was discarded.
I talked to TigerDirect reps before I bought refurb computers from them. They said that their return rate on refurbs was actually lower than on new products. [The infant mortality issue]. They also told me that if my refurb failed, to be sure to remove any extra memory, etc that I had installed because they would not even attempt to repair a failed refurb--they would simply send a replacement.
I think [but do not know for sure] that modern computer manufacturers often do system level test when they download software, etc. but doubt that they do much longterm burnin. Does anyone have any facts on that?
I have bought two refurbished from Fujitsu listed on e-Bay.
The first one was a T4215 Tablet-PC ($1100), and the second was a Fujitsu P1610 Tablet-PC ($970).
The T4215 came direct from Fujitsu refurbished via e-Bay. I could not find anything wrong or different from a "brand new" unit, no blemishes, no scratches, nothing. It was perfect.
BUT,
it arrived with a broken connector on the mother board for the CD-ROM bay, looked like the automatic insertion machine hit it. I am very surprised that it went thought inspection and shipped like that. I took pictures of it, and contacted Fujitsu immediately via email, since it came with 90 days warranty.
I was given immediately an RMA number and I sent it back.
This is awesome: they received it on Monday June 11, and I got it back repaired at noon on Thursday June 14! Awesome service.
Then I bought a P1610 from Fujitsu via e-Bay. It has one pixel on all the time about 0,5 from the bottom on the right side. BUT the only time I see it is during power up or power down. Could have sent it back for replacement, but decided it was not worth the shipping hassle.
I've been purchasing "floor models" and displays items for as long as I can remember. Have not had one problem yet. Most of these items have the full manufacturer warranty (be sure to check) to put your mind at ease.
From a word processor to laptops to a 42" plasma tv (purchased 4 years ago and still going strong) to my entire kitchen (sears outlet!), I would wholeheartedly recommend purchasing a refurbished item.
Again... make sure it has the full manufacturer warranty!!!
I am a recent purchaser of a refurbished IBM T-30 laptop. To be honest I purchased it on E-Bay. I took several weeks of looking prior to my purchase. Some of the catagories i included in my search were: 1. trustworthiness of the seller (feedback). 2. (because of my work using all IBM, i looked at only IBM)I considered what what was used at work. 3. Having some knowledge of computers, i looked for speed and equipment. 4. Then i looked for what the seller was offering as programming on the set. After looking at all these items, I settled on the laptop I am typing on right now. I eventually went back to E-Bay and purchased 2 upgrades 1. a cd-rw/dvd-rom ( mine came only with a dvd-rom) 2. another powercord (one for home and one for work). I personally recommend that if you are looking for refurbished or recertified that you consider the above as my humble contribution.
I've purchased lots of refurbished equipment over the years. Laptops, desktops and miscellaneous peripherals have never given me problems.
I'm a bargain hunter, don't need to have bleeding edge specs, and I'm technically proficient enough to deal with most problems that come along, so I don't need to buy new ... with service agreement ... at full price.
I bought a Compaq (HP) computer in 2003 and as soon as the warranty ran out the CPU failed. I have no idea how, but it's been at least four years since I had it fixed and it's been no trouble since.
I saved maybe $300 buying it refurbished. So I think you should go ahead and get one. I'm sure people have had problems with brand-new computers too.
My best recommendation is to get an extended warranty if it's available.
I bought it directly from HP. Also, I don't think it would hurt to have other brands of scanners, printers or all-in-one's connected to your machine. HP probably has refurbished all-in-one's too.
Do not buy old PC, I will say it again DO NOT BUY OLD PC,Just wait until you saved more money to buy a new one.
Apple is a very reputable company that really has quality products. I own a refurbished iMac, refurbished wireless keyboard, refurbished wireless mighty mouse, and a refurbished ipod. They all work great and I've never had a problem with any of these items. HP also seems like a reputable company. So, if that's the type of PC that you prefer then I would say an HP refurbished would probably be just fine also.
My current desktop, an HP is a "refurbished. Have it four years, no problems. Saved a few hundred. I have bought many things, including a camera and quite good surround sound speakers that were refurbished.
Any box returned to a store that has been opened, even if the item was not removed must be returned to the manufacturer and treated as refurbished. Sometimes you can get an estimate from the manufacturer as to the percent of refurbished that actually need repair as opposed to not needing any repair. I have found no repair refurbished to be as high as 80%. I would definitely purchase the refurbished from a reputable manufacturer, if it comes with a 90 day warranty
I bought a refurbished HP desktop over 7 years ago. After 5 the CD ROM & DVD went. Other than that it is still working today. We have bought other refurbished computers and have had good luck.
I have purchased refurbished or recertified computers from my computer repair man. and they have worked great. but I have one problem with them if the computer locks up or crashes I have no way of restoring my computer I in up have to take the system back to him to reinstall everything even though he doesn't charge to do this but most times it comes as incoveniences to do this. when he can make me a copy of the restore cd, to correct this and won't.
Most likely these systems he sold you do not have a system restore disc and for him to copy the OS to give you would put him in a very illegal position to say the least. What you need to do is go purchase whatever operating system you are using so you have a copy. That way whenever you need to format and reinstall you will be able to do so. No need to be upset with him, he is trying to follow the law when it comes to copying an OS, just not legal to do.
What most people do not realize is you never actually own any software you purchase anyway. Read the fine print next time you install a software title. You purchased the right to use the software, in all actuality the software itself still belongs to the company you purchased it from. Most people do not understand this and think they can make any copies they wish of the software. Fact is, you only purchase the right to use a copy of it for your own needs. You can not make copies to give away, nor are you legally allowed to resale the software...legally that is.
RJ
Not worth it!! Look at the major difference in the warranty. If "good as new' as some claim, why is the warranty period reduced exponetialy?
I have purchased several refurbished computers in the past and I am quite pleased with the service, repair, extended warranty that was provided as a result of the purchase. In the future, I will look in to purchasing the same way. My last 2 computers were purchased from Apple over the web and delivered directily to my home.
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