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Hey Mark, part 2
by lablover - 2/26/08 2:16 PM In reply to: Hey Mark by labloverI got Outlook Express back and everything with it.
But the IE repair as we have been discussing, did not work for my problem. I visited the site in question and clicked on a thread with multiple pages. The first page comes up, displays for a second then it jumps to the end, as before.
I've also noticed, both before and after the repair on IE 6, that sometimes a multiple page thread, it does display the first page and stays there.
Your thoughts?
Richard
Did you remove all those BHO's?
by MarkFlax
- 2/27/08 3:08 AM
In reply to: Hey Mark, part 2 by lablover
I'm not sure if you said you did that.
When you said you 'visited the site in question and clicked on a thread with multiple pages' which site was that?
To recap;
You have no viruses, no spyware, no other issues with your system that you haven't mentioned. You have cleaned out all temp files and temporary internet files.
You have deleted all BHO's. You have tried the sfc /scannow system file checker and the inf file repair options.
Does this XP include SP2?
If you have done all that, then I see no other easy solution. In case this is still malware related you could try creating a HiJackThis, (HJT), log and posting it in a forum that specializes in analyzing HJT logs. Guidance here;
http://forums.cnet.com/5208-6132_102-0.html?forumID=32&threadID=255339&messageID=2533167
But if that doesn't work the only other step I can suggest is a repair install. That's a big step and you would need to back up all those settings, personal files, emails, etc that you cannot afford to lose. This site gives full guidance and advice;
http://www.michaelstevenstech.com/XPrepairinstall.htm
Mark
Hey Mark 4
by lablover - 2/27/08 6:51 AM In reply to: Did you remove all those BHO's? by MarkFlax
Did you remove all those BHO's? - New!
by MarkFlax - 2/27/08 3:08 AM
In reply to: Hey Mark, part 2 by lablover
I'm not sure if you said you did that.
I'm not sure if I did or not. Ran Ccleaner and all it found was 2 tracking cookies. I deleted.
When you said you 'visited the site in question and clicked on a thread with multiple pages' which site was that?
www.retrievertraining.net/forums
To recap;
You have no viruses, no spyware, no other issues with your system that you haven't mentioned. You have cleaned out all temp files and temporary internet files.
I've run my installed Norton Interner Security with no problems found.
Ran a freebie (edwido?)virus, malware, spyware with no problems found. Deleted temp and temp Internet files. Also ran Spybot with nothing found.
You have deleted all BHO's. You have tried the sfc /scannow system file checker and the inf file repair options.
Have not done this.
Does this XP include SP2?
Yes it does, and all MS fixes/patches have been applied.
If you have done all that, then I see no other easy solution. In case this is still malware related you could try creating a HiJackThis, (HJT), log and posting it in a forum that specializes in analyzing HJT logs. Guidance here;
http://forums.cnet.com/5208-6132_102-0.html?forumID=32&threadID=255339&messageID=2533167
But if that doesn't work the only other step I can suggest is a repair install. That's a big step and you would need to back up all those settings, personal files, emails, etc that you cannot afford to lose. This site gives full guidance and advice;
http://www.michaelstevenstech.com/XPrepairinstall.htm
I'll have to look into this.
Richard
Hey Mark 5
by lablover - 2/28/08 1:47 PM In reply to: Hey Mark 4 by labloverI have d'l'ed BHOdemon and run that. It found 7 but said they were all good and from known sources..
Ran sfc/scannow, which took awhile but it found nothing to report or fix.
I read about the repair install. Very scary.
I might just have to live with the problem.
Do you try accessing www.retrievertraining.net/forums? Go to the first forum and click on any thread that has multiple pages.
How did your system do?
Richard
When I troubleshoot IE I disable all of them.
by R. Proffitt - 2/28/08 2:10 PM
In reply to: Hey Mark 5 by lablover
Even known or good ones.
Just In Passing, I Visitedd That Site.....
by tobeach - 2/29/08 12:13 AM In reply to: Hey Mark 4 by labloverusing my Mozilla Sea Monkey Browser & every page & post behaved perfectly.
S.M. uses Java NOT active-X like IE unless you have Java and set it to handle IE in the C.P.>Java Icon>Browsers tab. 4 what it's worth. 
I don't understand your post.
by lablover - 2/29/08 7:01 AM In reply to: Just In Passing, I Visitedd That Site..... by tobeachCan you be more specific as to what I should look at or do, please?
THANKS
IE and ActiveX
by MarkFlax - 2/29/08 10:03 AM
In reply to: I don't understand your post. by lablover
Yes I did go to that forum site, and tried this forum post;
http://www.retrievertraining.net/forums/showthread.php?t=13804
It has 5 pages and I had no difficulty in IE and in Firefox.
Internet Explorer and other IE based browsers use a plugin utility called ActiveX, which is a set of rules for how applications should share information. It is like Java, but unlike Java it allows the programmer full access to the Operating System, and so presents a security risk that is not so available in Java plugins. IE has settings in its Tools > Internet Options to change the security of ActiveX. If the settings are set too low, then unsigned ActiveX could be installed without the user's knowledge and this could cause problems.
Most other browsers, of which SeaMonkey is one, use Java plugins instead of ActiveX.
I didn't see any obvious signs of ActiveX in the Retriever web site though.
Mark
No Problems with IE 7
by Aoman - 3/1/08 3:22 AM In reply to: Did you remove all those BHO's? by MarkFlax
Nark:
Perhaps I am lucky... I have been running IE-7, in a five-year old Dell 8200, on XP SP-2, for Golly-knows-how-long, since shortly after it raised its multiple heads over the horizon.
It has survived reformatting of the Hard drive a couple of times, and subsequently the recent shift to a new and larger hard drive (XP Pro SP-2), and has always worked as well for me as it seems to have been designed to work.
I am not particularly enamoured with the multiple windows functions, nor am I impressed with all the junk, bells and whistles in the toolbars, but I have had no problems and no complaints about "less than advertised," failures or inadequate performance.
I forgot what kind of problems I had with IE-6, minor I am sure, but I seem to remember something back there which prompted me to go with IE-7 when it became available, and I have not regretted or looked back since.
Perhaps I have been lucky, but I keep my computers clean lean with Norton and, in one case Windows Live OneCare, AV & firewalls, a hub firewall, regular spybot scans, and a minimal Startup menu.
Tell the guys to keep their acts clean, and if they get into deep stuff, to reload or repair the OS, and reload the browser; if it is really smelly, to reformat the drive, reload the OS, and the works which they should have put on a backup. and then reload the browser.... whichever one they wish to use.
Earlaioman
Hey Mark, part 3
by lablover - 2/27/08 5:03 AM In reply to: Hey Mark, part 2 by labloverWell I thought I got Outlook express back. Yesterday I did create a desktop shortcut, and it did work. Powered off PC last night, and OE was not on the desktop this AM.
When I click on "all Programs" this AM, neither IE or OE is listed in that menu. Shouldn't they be??? How do I get them there, permanently?
Once I get the desktop shortcuts there, can I change the attributes to "read only" to prevent deletion?
Thanks again for your help.
OE and IE
by MarkFlax - 2/27/08 11:43 AM
In reply to: Hey Mark, part 3 by lablover
Hi again.
I assume you mean that just the shortcuts disappear and not the programs themselves. I don't know why they are disappearing after a reboot.
I notice from your Part 4 that you haven't removed all/any BHO's, and did you say in that post that you haven't tried the sfc /scannow or the inf repair method as described in Microsoft's link?
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/318378
I said, "You have deleted all BHO's. You have tried the sfc /scannow system file checker and the inf file repair options".
You said, "Have not done this".
So I am not sure where we are with this.
IE problems are normally due to an unstable system, and unstable systems have usually been attacked in some way. Bad BHO's will continually make IE unstable until they have been removed.
What I would do, if all else I had tried had failed so far. I would save my emails, address book and favorites. Then I would goto Control Panel > Add/Remove Programs, then Add/Remove Windows Components, then remove both IE and OE.
Then I would reboot. That way, any registry entries changed by the Add/Remove process take effect. When Windows is fully loaded again I would reverse that procedure and re-install IE and OE. That should place the IE ad OE icons on the Desktop and in the Start Menu, (it is usually found under Accessories if I remember rightly). The IE icon is not a true shortcut but it acts like one. I am not sure about the OE icon.
Reboot, and see if they have stuck.
If not, then I would consider a repair install.
Mark
I'm going to write "No." Link, comment.
by R. Proffitt - 2/27/08 8:00 AM
In reply to: Is IE 7 running ok now? by lablover
http://www.news.com/Next-Explorer-to-fail-Acid-test/2100-1032_3-5813897.html?tag=nefd.top
Microsoft declined to support the standards. Again it has elected to set its own standard.
Bob
I recommend using Mozilla
by perryoly - 2/29/08 7:34 PM In reply to: Is IE 7 running ok now? by labloverI recommend using Mozilla. Very few websites don't display well with Mozilla. It is way faster than Internet Explorer (IE) 6 or IE7. It has tabs like IE. It appears that most viruses are written to exploit the many security weaknesses in IE. Why make yourself a target?
Mozilla is free, faster, makes it easier to manage downloads and passwords, and is not such a target for viruses and spyware. The Mozilla browser downloads way faster than IE (that's not saying much) and supports my favorite toolbars like Yahoo, Google, and Accuweather.
I like having more than one browser on my PC so if one crashes and has to be re-downloaded then I'm still OK. Therefore I still have IE7. IE7 is a fine browser but obviously I prefer Mozilla.
Try Mozilla, you'll like it, IMHO.
IE 7 is stable (I hope)
by Kurogin - 2/29/08 7:41 PM In reply to: Is IE 7 running ok now? by labloverI think for the most part IE7 is stable now, and in my opinion, easier to use than firefox or opera, although opera is a nice browser. I use IE7 for all my internet browsing and have no troubles.
You want to load EI7 with your home XP but you have EI 6 now
by maidensolo - 2/29/08 8:00 PM In reply to: Is IE 7 running ok now? by labloverNO
no
WHY WOULD YOU WANT TO DO THAT?
WHEN I LOAD IT, I HAVE TO RELOAD WINDOWS XP, THEN EI6. YOU MIGHT AS WELL LOAD VISTA WHILE YOUR AT IT.
SPRING WILL BE HERE IN 2 WEEKS AND YOU CAN GO OUTSIDE. JUST HANG IN THERE. DON'T DO IT/////////
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