look up cnet reveiews on ipod classic and zune 80
ipod got 8.0 and zune got 8.3
CONTEST OVER
Apple IPOD - ITunes
Microsoft Zune - NO ITunes
Winner: Microsoft (No Itunes) Zune by a land slide
I see a lot of comments about iPods lack of compatibility with WMA but I don't think it's really a valid issue. When I was filling out my iTunes library in order to put my music onto my then new 4gb iPod (which I'm planning on replacing soon) it prompted me to automatically convert the wma and i believe even the midi files to a format which would work with iTunes and, more importantly, my iPod. I'm definitely considering the Zune80 for my upgrade, but I'm a sucker for the underdog (probably one of the biggest reasons I'm considering Zune) and this includes the big dog who is getting reamed, and I really don't like misinformation. That's why I wanted to throw out this clarification for why I think that particular compatibility issue is a non-issue.
-God bless
-Josh S.
Before I switched to an iMac, I ran iTunes on a PC. Man, that program raised hell with my system. I thought I was crazy, but it seemed to me like I got more spyware, worms etc. when it was running...
Then, during a session on the phone with Microsoft support, the tech guy let slip that he would personally never run iTunes on Windows. When pressed, he admitted that the program did indeed create problems with the OS, although it wasn't widely publicized. He said you can run it and be fine, but you need to be vigilant with the sweeps and get a nice firewall. In other words, kind of a hassle.
I hate hassles. I love my iPod. I got a Mac. Now my brother who runs a PC? I've bought him a Zune for this Christmas...
no matter what you run on a pc, you have to have all of that security stuff. I've ran iTunes on my pc for years and have yet to encounter problems. But I am vigilant about security. Still loving my iPods.
Agreed
iTunes for windows SUCKS, it laggs!
And its dull to look at
also, either itunes or my ipod is ******* up!
I tried playing a children of bodom song and got a nightwish one
David coverdale -> got bruce springsteen
***!?
Ok... I will state this straight out, I have not owned and probably never will own an Apple product. I have used them, but have never liked them or the company, due to the interfaces and the company philosophy.
Now, that being said, as an owner of a Zune 80, there are things that I am not overly pleased with in the software for it. The hardware is great and I am very please with my purchase. I never considered an Ipod (see above), so I don't know all that much about the Itunes software. But with the Zune software there are a couple of annoying idiosyncrasies that I do hope that MS will fix in future updates.
As far as the argument of, would the Zune even exist if the Ipod wasn't invented first? The Ipod was a rip-off of the first MP3 player, the Creative Labs Rio back in the late 90's when the MP3 format was first introduced. Messenger came about after AIM, which came out in response to ICQ, which was in response to the popularity of the IRC. In todays techno world that we live in, everything is based on and developed based on what has come before. Soon, these 80GB hard drive units will be obsolete, they will have +100 GB solid state (flash)drives with voice activated menus.
The thing is that none of this stuff really matters, this brand new Zune that I just bought 2 weeks ago is already on the verge of being obsolete. If I get 2 years use out of it, I will be happy, then I will look at upgrading to something else.
There are those loyal Ipod users out there, because they have always had an Ipod. There are loyal Mac users out there, and that is fine. I personally don't like Apple products and was just waiting for a high capacity quality MP3 player to come out that was in a reasonable price range that didn't have a half eaten apple on it, I got it in the Zune.
Inane post that this is, you have to forgive me, it is late and I tend to ramble when I am tired.
I have been anti-ipod for years. I'm not sure why. I didn;t like that the ACC format didn't work on other players and maybe i just like to be different. My first player was a Dell DJ. I've been witing for a high capacity player since I have tons of CDs. When Zune was announced I was excited for an alternative to ipod that i tought would be the player for me. I have to saw the actual hardware is great. the big widescreen is great and the interface is terrific. It sounds very good as well. BUT, the software. Where to even start. Without going into detail, i spent hour upon hour trying to fix what the Zune software did to my music library. I had Madonna songs show up in Dokken albums seemingly randomly. It was crazy. yet, in Microsoft Media Player, everything was fine. In addition, Zune software give the user little control in labeling songs and albums and often you would type a change in song title or to correct a misplelling, and nothing would change. It was maddening! I would rip a CD using the Zune software and it would literally leave off the 1st song and put it in an unknown artist folder. There is just no excuse for any of this to have happened.
I am not computer illiterate nor am I a computer god, but I can only imagine how someone less savvy might have fared. i know i am not alone as i read account after account of people ready to throw thier Zunes out the window. I finally took back the Zune and boiut the ipod classic. having reallt explored the ipod now, it is a fantastic machine and it's no wonder it is number one. I am not an ipod fanboy but I have been converted. I don;t think the reviewer have given enough weight to how bad the Zune software is. And, as mentioned there is really no content and what is the deal with Zune Pass units. Why not day something is $1 instead of inventing some new money system. it's silly and useless.
Anyone thinking about buying a Zune, i would suggest you do soem searches and read about the frustration experience by so many people. Again, the player itself is fine. I think i will go listen to my ipod now!
I am going to get one zune very soon.
http://astore.amazon.com/mp3-player-cool-20
Although the Zune seems to have the advantage in a lot of areas- the built-in radio is a big plus- i am surprised the "sexiness" round went to the Zune. It is a hell of a lot thicker than the iPod, and uglier. It just looks like a big block that would be hard to strap on one's arm for a workout like people do with iPods.
And how exactly does the "multifunctional control pad" on the zune work?
i was just wondering how the Zune 80's display was under the sun. Like if it is readable or not.
If you are in the sun, it is very readable
I had a Creative Zen Micro. When it died last weekend, I ran out and bought an iPod Classic 80 gb. When I tried to download & install iTunes, it wouldn't install. I tried EVERYTHING I could think of, to no avail. After about 4 hours I cried "UNCLE", went back to BestBuy & swapped it out for a Zune 80. I'm happy as a clam!
Heres the thing I really want to get a new mp3 player and Ive always been more attracted to the zune but the problem is this... I HAVE A LOT OF MUSIC!!! so far 160 is the largest out there... my question is this.. is the zune coming out with a 160
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