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Buzz Out Loud Lounge: Toshiba offically kills HD DVD

by hosko - 2/19/08 1:30 AM
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Toshiba offically kills HD DVD

by hosko - 2/19/08 1:30 AM

Toshiba just released this press release http://www.toshiba.co.jp/about/press/2008_02/pr_j1903.htm

Its in Japanese but translates to this:

TOKYO--Toshiba Corporation today announced that it has undertaken a thorough review of its overall strategy for HD DVD and has decided it will no longer develop, manufacture and market HD DVD players and recorders. This decision has been made following recent major changes in the market. Toshiba will continue, however, to provide full product support and after-sales service for all owners of Toshiba HD DVD products.

HD DVD was developed to offer consumers access at an affordable price to high-quality, high definition content and prepare them for the digital convergence of tomorrow where the fusion of consumer electronics and IT will continue to progress.

"We carefully assessed the long-term impact of continuing the so-called 'next-generation format war' and concluded that a swift decision will best help the market develop," said Atsutoshi Nishida, President and CEO of Toshiba Corporation. "While we are disappointed for the company and more importantly, for the consumer, the real mass market opportunity for high definition content remains untapped and Toshiba is both able and determined to use our talent, technology and intellectual property to make digital convergence a reality."

Toshiba will continue to lead innovation, in a wide range of technologies that will drive mass market access to high definition content. These include high capacity NAND flash memory, small form factor hard disk drives, next generation CPUs, visual processing, and wireless and encryption technologies. The company expects to make forthcoming announcements around strategic progress in these convergence technologies.

Toshiba will begin to reduce shipments of HD DVD players and recorders to retail channels, aiming for cessation of these businesses by the end of March 2008. Toshiba also plans to end volume production of HD DVD disk drives for such applications as PCs and games in the same timeframe, yet will continue to make efforts to meet customer requirements. The company will continue to assess the position of notebook PCs with integrated HD DVD drives within the overall PC business relative to future market demand.

This decision will not impact on Toshiba's commitment to standard DVD, and the company will continue to market conventional DVD players and recorders. Toshiba intends to continue to contribute to the development of the DVD industry, as a member of the DVD Forum, an international organization with some 200 member companies, committed to the discussion and defining of optimum optical disc formats for the consumer and the related industries.

Toshiba also intends to maintain collaborative relations with the companies who joined with Toshiba in working to build up the HD DVD market, including Universal Studios, Paramount Pictures, and DreamWorks Animation and major Japanese and European content providers on the entertainment side, as well as leaders in the IT industry, including Microsoft, Intel, and HP. Toshiba will study possible collaboration with these companies for future business opportunities, utilizing the many assets generated through the development of HD DVD.

I'm glad I didn't buy any HD DVD media

Post 2 of 11

Finally

by SPIRIdk - 2/19/08 3:35 AM In reply to: Toshiba offically kills HD DVD by hosko

I didn't really care about which format would win, I'm just happy that there's only one!

Post 3 of 11

HD DVD

by hosko - 2/19/08 4:05 AM In reply to: Finally by SPIRIdk

I was on the HD DVD side because they don't have region coding. But who really cares. My subscription TV provider is about to launch HD video on demand. We already have SD on demand but its not for movies, the HD offering is just movies in 1080i 5.1 surround sound. As its coming from a progressive source, when 1080i is deinterlaced by the display it will end up 1080p.

The only catch is in Australia subscription TV isn't allowed to offer Pay Per View movies till 90 days after the DVD release date. Apparently the movie studios demand this delay. I think its stupid as I'm not going to get the movie out of DVD and then watch it on Pay Per View. I just wish once a movie was released in a cinema you could watch it where ever you like. Some people don't want to or can't sit in a cinema.

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region codeing

by mementh - 2/19/08 2:45 PM In reply to: HD DVD by hosko

region codeing never was needed imho

A person who was in a diff region would just buy a diff region player and any AC jack things to make it work.

Post 5 of 11

when On Demand and downloadable HD has a selection

by minimalist - 2/19/08 7:40 PM In reply to: HD DVD by hosko

that goes beyond the latest mega-blockbusters I will start to care. Right now most on demand services are about on par with the selection you'll find on Clear Channel owned radio stations (i.e. there is none). The 1000 movies that Apple TV promises are a step in the right direction (only about 75 are actually in HD right now) but it is really no match for Netflix's 90,000 titles. Xbox Marketplace is so bad it took me 20 minutes to find a movie I even cared about. Comcast's OD selection is equally dismal.

Not to mention I buy movies by directors I care about much like people buy music by bands they care about. Rental is fine if you are bored and don't want to go out of the house and just need a diversion, but over-compressed 720p pixelated crap is not something I deem worthy of buying, much less watching multiple times on a 46" in LCD.

Post 6 of 11

Ahh neat

by Nicholas Buenk - 2/19/08 6:40 AM In reply to: Finally by SPIRIdk

Still I don't want it, both formats have the worst DRM systems to ever be invented.
At least the best technology won though, Blu Ray as an optical disk is technologically superior, and would make a good storage medium for computer data...

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PS3's heart

by techmulticast - 2/22/08 8:57 PM In reply to: Toshiba offically kills HD DVD by hosko

Hmmm.... PS3's 'heart' is a Blu-ray disc player. So taking out Blu-ray will affect PS3 a great due.

1) But all six major Hollywood studios are now in the Blu-ray DVD camp.... there are rumour that some have received $150 million for "promotional consideration". Well since money can 'buy' them, buy them again. PS3 side can try to buy them back but now they will pay twice. Revive HD DVD to haunt PS3.

2) Hmmm Toshiba mentioned high capacity NAND Flash Memory....small form factor hard disk... what are they trying to say? Are they trying to said, beside download and Disc, we can distribute content in many many various method. Hence approach us and pioneer the distribution of movie or games via Flash Memory or something.

But since PS3 also have USB port, that might not hurt them that much. It only reduce the needs for Blu-Ray as a HD requirement. And in turn, reduce people buying PS3 because of their Blu-Ray needs.

Most PCs of today, do not have Diskette drive, so maybe it is time we move away from Disc drive. We can boot up with our thumb drive. Why don't we have entertainment via thumb drive. That will reduce the form factor further, we might get "window air" sooner then we say apple. lol

If we want to back it up, we can still rip it into another harddisk in our home network. And with that I can watch any movies that I have without the needs to change Disc.

If you are still not comfortable, you can burn it via an external Optical Disc Drive, maybe it will be a Blu-Ray, maybe it is not since it is just for back-up.
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There might be more interesting "judo" move. I have nothing against PS3 or its maker, juz want to point out how their competitors might move. PS3 maker really bet heavily on Blu-Ray, finger cross they can survive the ordeal.

Post 8 of 11

Funny Video about the Death of HD-DVD

by odelljamie - 2/23/08 6:42 PM In reply to: Toshiba offically kills HD DVD by hosko

I know this subject is old, and I should have posted this earlier -- but here's a funny video about the death of HD-DVD. Imagine if the HD-DVD camp were portrayed by the Germans at the end of WWII.

Someone created this video from the movie "Downfall" and redid the subtitles as if the Germans where the HD-DVD folks.

Please note, that it does have some foul language. Also, the video is posted at Jaman.com and I'm an employee of Jaman.com.

Anyway -- here's the link:
http://www.jaman.com/a/Downfall-HD-DVD-100mb/video/0ejCfToY32gU

Jamie

Post 9 of 11

Too funny

by Alaskanwoman - 3/1/08 6:26 PM In reply to: Funny Video about the Death of HD-DVD by odelljamie

That short was GREAT! I must admit I shed a tear when I heard that HD was dead. At least my HD drive to the Xbox 360 will work as an upconverter.

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MS wasn't committed to the HD format

by alligator768 - 2/28/08 6:44 AM In reply to: Toshiba offically kills HD DVD by hosko

Doesn't MS have a bizzilion dollars just lying around? If the movie studios really determined the winner of the war, why not put that $$ to use and outbid sony to buy off the movie studios?

Or is this another example of MS making a half-hearted attempt at something just to get a competitor to shell out that much more $$?

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They have other problems.

by Astinsan - 2/28/08 10:48 AM In reply to: MS wasn't committed to the HD format by alligator768

They didn't care about it to begin with. Why do you think it was external? New generation of xbox 360 (the black one can't recall the name) no hd related drive. That told me that it wasn't essential to sell the unit.

Now to the sad part. I crack open my new magazine. . . A 2 page ad for toshiba laptops sporting the ultra cool HD DVD drive. Most of the ad was mostly selling the drive. So I guess that laptop was dead on arrival.

More's Law? More like Sony's law.

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