Windows Vista: Poll: If you use Vista, how satisfied are you with it?
- 2/22/08 11:56 AM
The Poll Results Do Not Match the Posted Responses
by retexan599 - 2/22/08 8:21 PM In reply to: Poll: If you use Vista, how satisfied are you with it? by Lee Koo (ADMIN)
The poll shows 52% 'Very Dissatisfied' but almost all the discussion posts are from 9 people who seem to be 'Very Satisfied' -- is the poll accurate?
For the record, I am 'Very Satisfied'; Vista works very well once I got used to it.
pole vers responders
by peter4012 - 2/24/08 6:36 PM In reply to: The Poll Results Do Not Match the Posted Responses by retexan599as you pointed out - most of the satisfied responses, multiples - over and over - are from the same 9 (now I guess 10) people ---- listning to usesers, programers, geeks and techs among the people I associate with ( My roomate is a programmer at a local specialty operation) Vista is all show and no go - most of the problems are with a consistent issue with many older programs not functioning inder Vista, and many printers not being recognized, even withdrivers available, by Vista - so yes independent loaded notebooks may be doing just fabulous, network based desk tops with the need for certain programs and useing existing printers, because of a lack of big bucks to redo or due to the lack of availability for 'new rewritten programs' seem to be the big sufferers - and once installed - short of a total wipe-out there is no-way-back
Sorry, Vista is a flop.S sucks and I wish OS2 would have survived, but 3rd party programmers jumped on the MS/windows bandwaggon and are no being burned buy MS and wish they hadn't
Vista lovers aper not to be Computer Users
by peter4012 - 2/24/08 7:23 PM In reply to: The Poll Results Do Not Match the Posted Responses by retexan599After having read every single response in this discussion ( as of 7pm pacific time - 2-24) I have come to the sense that most favoritable responses come from single computer users, who bought a new machine with Vist installed, operated independently and used largely for video, music , games and love the bling
Users, with a need for specific programs and equipment appear to be the dissenters, who find the real problems with Vista
Back to what I said - ALL SHOW no go -
rule #1
by alice_b0wie - 2/25/08 7:12 PM In reply to: The Poll Results Do Not Match the Posted Responses by retexan599if you get a faux techy telling you vista isn't any good, why are they on here in a vista board? makes you wonder about their credibility. they must be trying to learn something other than saying, "install xp". which really means "thats all i know how to work on". the big techy scam now is to install xp over vista. they're making a killing off that one. if you take your computer to someone and the first thing they say is "remove vista", do this. go to a better service tech, because that one just proved his ignorance and will take you for hundreds of dollars.
Vista Dissatifaction.
by GSTWOSEF - 2/22/08 8:38 PM In reply to: Poll: If you use Vista, how satisfied are you with it? by Lee Koo (ADMIN)
The only reason that Vista is poor in satifaction is the limitations that the operating system puts you. It is not user friendly. It does not work in all types of computers and finally...ummm.... you know the deal with viruses.
Ummm... have you actually used Vista??
by caskater4 - 2/22/08 9:03 PM In reply to: Vista Dissatifaction. by GSTWOSEFI'll take a wild guess and say you're a Mac user. In which case you should stick to your Mac and do the world a favor by keeping quiet. You clearly have no personal experience with Vista and are just spreading rumors and falsities from other biased individuals such as yourself.
Very Satisfied
by caskater4 - 2/22/08 8:50 PM In reply to: Poll: If you use Vista, how satisfied are you with it? by Lee Koo (ADMIN)
I've been running Vista as my primary OS since beta 2 was released. It is extremely stable and the user interface is greatly improved over XP. The new interface improvements have made me so much more productive compared to XP that I find using XP is now a chore. As it is I run Vista Business 64-bit edition.
I can understand that people may experience difficulties with the new operating system. Having to deal with Vista woes from all sorts of people over the last year i've boiled the majority of the problems down to two things. First, people tend to either install Vista on hardware that is simply not powerful enough (too old) or the hardware they have is simply not supported by the manufacturers with good stable drivers yet. Secondly, I notice the people who complain most about Vista are those that do not like, nor care to learn, the new interface. There also appears to be a correlation of people not liking the new interface also using Classic Mode in Windows XP. While I don't have any evidence to prove this point the implications are obvious. These people don't want any sort of change. When I come across these people I typically advise them to stick with XP because they are unlikely to find any benefit from the switch.
Rereads the post, then laughs
by MikeHolli - 2/23/08 2:47 AM In reply to: Very Satisfied by caskater4Your joking right? OK, Mr Very Satisfied: Let's go step by step thru this. First off, and in my case Microsoft went and changed the networking procedure.(un-needed, and un-wanted IMHO)Secondly Stardock has had out Object Desktop forever, and since around SP2 for XP you had the aero interface with them. (Slight cosmedic change or faux frontend) Third The under-lying engine that runs Vista (all versions) is just XP with a few enhancements above XP sp3. I see this as no different than Windows 98SE type of O/S. There hasn't really that many changes outside of eye candy, or to be someone like the 2 of us (Meaning WE want EVERY version of Windows that come out.) Also known as Microsoft Fanboys. I admit to it.
sorry to burst your bubble
by bhodges00 - 2/24/08 12:38 PM In reply to: Rereads the post, then laughs by MikeHolliVista is built on Server 2003 and when SP1 is installed it will use the the new 2008 Server kernel. Stardock not only suck but you have to pay for it.
LET ME EXPLAIN "INTERFACE"
by peter4012 - 2/24/08 6:54 PM In reply to: Very Satisfied by caskater4If I wanted to learn an interface, I'd stick to DOS (which sucked) and one of the 4 various program swappers (which were a pain) available back then - an Interface is supposed to simplify, not complicate
Secondly - old equipment. I'll give you part of that, can't put if on my old 486 w/ an 200 meg hard drive*, but there is absolutely no justification that it can't run an older printer, scanner, or for that matter every single XP operating program. But the biggest complaint I hear is "I't won't recognize my printer" (and lets face it - nobody has a printer thats more than 2 years old), It won't run my XP program - come on that was MS's preceeding program
)* and if these programers would actually write programs << CODE>>, instead of hacking and reborrowing snippids into C++ and compiling these bloated elephants XP and Vista would easely fit onto that 200 meg drive, with room to spare and run 1000 times faster - I coded a comodore 64 program for payroll, and it worked faster than anything on my machine now - yep - no bells and wistles - no GUI - but lightening fast.
I honestly hate Vista and want XP back!!
by LadyMaverick - 2/25/08 12:18 AM In reply to: Very Satisfied by caskater4I have a Dell desktop with XP and a Toshiba laptop with Vista. Hands down XPis easier to use,navigate,find items,that are all over the place. Vista is slow and requires the runnning of too many programs. Vista make what used to be simple mainatenance tasks
like defragging hard to set up and use.It's like they took easy items we were used to do and changed them totally to confuse us. I waste a lot of time finding files. And e-mailing is a different program with the new Vista. I really think it was put out before it was ready.
If youone can advise how i can replace my Vista with XP, I would really appreciate it.
Order an XP Machine
by washburn0117 - 2/22/08 9:03 PM In reply to: Poll: If you use Vista, how satisfied are you with it? by Lee Koo (ADMIN)
If I had it to do over again I would have waited the three days it would have taken to get an XP machine.
It is slow in spite of three times the processor speed, 3GB of memory and a faster buss than the old machine Especially when working with multiple files.
Tech support never could get it to support the home network with XP machines on it. Eventually worked around it with a new router. If the network doesn't auto configure, fixing it is MUCH more difficult with Vista than XP.
MS doesn't tell you Vista doesn't support your old version of Office. Does surprisingly well with the WordPerfect suite though. Live Mail works pretty well, DO NOT use the mail that comes with Vista, MS is dropping it.
Firefox crashes twice a day. No one knows why, seems site specific. Doesn't crash on the same sites with XP.
Vista doesn't play nice with the supplied 'Vista compatible" graphics card. Keeps reseting the Nvidia settings with every reboot.
And the number 1 reason to avoid Vista. Microsoft has already announced they are replacing it within 18 months. Think MS will give you a good upgrade discount - think again.
Sounds like ME or 2000
by peter4012 - 2/24/08 7:01 PM In reply to: Order an XP Machine by washburn011718 months you say - actually about the std turn arround for MS garbage, but it is interesting if they announced it - that conceeds failure.
Lets understand something the only GOOD OS's that MS put out were XP and it's parent NT. The only reason why NT worked - Microsoft didn't write it, it was written by an outcourced group of 500 independent programmers, many with OS2 experience. XP only works because it is NT based - Vista is the first pure Microsft product since 95 and it shows
satisfied
by chrisemcleod - 2/22/08 9:25 PM In reply to: Poll: If you use Vista, how satisfied are you with it? by Lee Koo (ADMIN)
We recently purchased a dell inspiron 1720 which came with Vista. I had heard all the "don't do it!" in regards to Vista, but decided to try it anyways. We HAVE had the seemingly ubiquitous problem of randomly losing our wireless connection and having to reboot to regain it, but other than that, Vista has been awesome.
I have to say, I am really starting to feel like I did when I went from Win95 to XP. XP is really starting to seem like a piece-meal, patch job as opposed to Vista, which really seems integrated and cohesive.
We also just replaced out desktop with a dell machine (also with Vista) and it has been fine as well.
Honestly, people hate winners.... like Microsoft. Therefore nothing they do will be right. It disappoints me to hear CNET podcasts talking about how "no one likes Vista", because its not true.
I think both Tom and Molly have come out saying they don't think its SO bad, but, there is such an anti-Microsoft venom out there that they dare not say TOO many nice things about Microsoft, lest they **** off the "comic book guy" members of their audience.
Very disatisfied
by kev1006 - 2/22/08 9:31 PM In reply to: Poll: If you use Vista, how satisfied are you with it? by Lee Koo (ADMIN)
I had Vista Home Premium. It came on a Toshiba laptop. After weeks of constant lockups with IE (it would freeze about every 20 minutes) and Office 2007, I installed XP Pro SP2. XP SP2 works like a charm and has been that way for years. I'll try Vista again when SP1 comes out.
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