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Computer newbies: New Computer, simple Question (i think)

by Supermanxix - 2/20/08 7:52 PM
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New Computer, simple Question (i think)

by Supermanxix - 2/20/08 7:52 PM

Well i just purchased a new computer for the first time. Here are the hardware and such.

-(Sckt775)Intel® Core™ 2 Duo E6750 CPU @ 2.66GHz 1333FSB 4MB L2 Cache 64-bit
-Asus P5N-E nForce 650i SLI Chipset LGA775 FSB1333 DDR2 Mainboard
-1GB (1x1GB) PC6400 DDR2/800 Memory
-NVIDIA GeForce 8500 GT 512MB 16X PCI Express
-320GB SATA-II 3.0Gb/s 16MB Cache 7200RPM HDD[+0]
-INTERNAL 12in1 Flash Media Reader/Writer
- OS windows Vista Premium

ok so my question is this, I want to add 2G mor RAM, so do i need to go with the same type (heat spreader)? Do I need to use the same brand (Corsair XMS2)?

And is there anything I should add to this machine to make it more solid? Any advice will be greatly appreciated as i don't want to mess this thing up, my wife would murder me lol.

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Re: memory

by Kees Bakker Moderator - 2/21/08 12:37 AM In reply to: New Computer, simple Question (i think) by Supermanxix

You'll need the same type of memory, but not necessarily the same brand.

The two safe things to do:
1. Order it in the same shop as where you bought the machine, and be sure they know what it is meant for.
2. Use the tools at www.crucial.com to select the right type for your motherboard and order it there.

Kees

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wow that a good pc

by xhanis - 2/21/08 9:41 AM In reply to: New Computer, simple Question (i think) by Supermanxix

hello there it seem you got a good pc i also like to reply for your question can i know how many slot for memory and are the previous are also like the one you want to buy maybe if you can give me a detail for the slot memory maybe i can answer your question thank

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Slots and stuff

by Supermanxix - 2/21/08 8:18 PM In reply to: wow that a good pc by xhanis

The motherboard has 4 dimm slots (im guessing for RAM) and will support up to 8G of RAM. The Ram that I ws thinking about purchasing to expand it is the same brand, same pins, same speed (800MHz) it just doesn't have the "Heat Spreader" I was wondering if that would make a huge difference, or does the heat spreader really mean that much? And if i wanted to go with a different brand, would it mess anything up?

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As Kees said, the new RAM...

by Paul C - 2/22/08 3:10 AM In reply to: Slots and stuff by Supermanxix

...does NOT have to be the same brand, just the same speed and type.

The "Heat Spreader" you refer to is just a heat sink that the RAM manufacturer places over the RAM chips to aid in heat dissipation; it strictly speaking is NOT required.

Paul

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thank you very much, everyone, one last thing

by Supermanxix - 2/22/08 7:00 AM In reply to: As Kees said, the new RAM... by Paul C

A buddy of mine keeps saying he can Over Clock it for me, but he is kinda not a smart guy...Is it a good idea to overclock my computer or is it really not a good idea. I want a fast computer, but i also want it to last a while.

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I advise against that.

by R. Proffitt Moderator - 2/22/08 7:08 AM In reply to: thank you very much, everyone, one last thing by Supermanxix

It's your machine, not his so keep it at the stock speed to avoid issues.

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Just say "no"

by anna3333 - 2/23/08 2:36 PM In reply to: thank you very much, everyone, one last thing by Supermanxix

Overclocking = Overkill (with Kill being the operative word).

Don't recommend doing that. Use the speed at which the memory was intended to run. Overclocking is IMOH, not intelligent. It's like trying to get blood out of a turnip and just as silly. Its for people who like to "play around" with stuff (instead of just USING it) and who try to make it do things it was not designed to do just so they can brag about it. Just say "no" and keep your sanity - and your PC - in long-term working order. --Anna

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it has 4 dimm slots

by xhanis - 2/22/08 10:02 PM In reply to: Slots and stuff by Supermanxix

thank for you answer let gets back to work okay if you want to buy the ram i suggest you buy the ram that you wanted but if i remember correctly the ram come with a pair right but its up to you if you want or not to cause your motherboard can support up to 8 Gb of ram so i didnot see any restriction for you to buy any ram

just to make sure you must know what type of ram you could buy make sure you buy a ddr 2 type because ddr 1 or ddr 3 type will not work on your motherboard

okay see you agin

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Same brand of memory? NO!

by ben_myers - 2/22/08 7:53 PM In reply to: New Computer, simple Question (i think) by Supermanxix

Computer memory is generic these days, just like hard drives and optical drives. The most important thing in buying memory is to make sure that it is physically compatible with your motherboard AND that its specifications meet or exceed the requirements of the motherboard/CPU combination. Physically compatible means that if the motherboard requires DDR2, for example, you buy DDR2. CPUs with different front side bus speeds impose different requirements on memory speeds. Once you know the specifications and requirements for the memory, buy from a reputable source who can match the memory to the requirements. In the on-line world, Crucial has an on-line memory configurator and sells high quality memory. Kingston and SimpleTech are two other long-established brands of memory. Whether you buy on-line or from a store, get a FULL money back guarantee in case the memory is not compatible with your motherboard. If you buy on-line, shipping is not refundable. For your specific system, you probably want memory with a heat spreader, because the memory runs hot at a high clock speed... Ben

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1GB (1x1GB) PC6400 DDR2/800 Memory

by Dango517 - 2/22/08 8:45 PM In reply to: New Computer, simple Question (i think) by Supermanxix

You will need more information about your RAM then this to get a compatible RAM. Like: Is it ECC enabled? What is it's latency? Is it buffered? How much "L" memory does it have? This gets complicated and things need to match up. I'd suggest you buy a matching set of RAMs or at the least or go to a site with a configurator (see note below) like this one:

http://www.crucial.com/

Note: If your latencies do not match the lowest speed will be used by default which means your new RAM might actually slow down your PC. This will vary depending on the software being run within the PC.

Note: configurator are tools that assist you in determining what type of RAM you have and need. Some of these are manual, some load activeX software on to your computer and do this automatically.

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The arrangement of RAMs within the slots is important

by Dango517 - 2/22/08 11:09 PM In reply to: 1GB (1x1GB) PC6400 DDR2/800 Memory by Dango517

when using mismatched sizes; 1GB with 512mb lets say. Check your motherboard specification on the manufactures we site for details.

Note: The 0 slot, the first slot, is usually the closest to the CPU. Again, see detail on manufactures web site. Get it wrong the system will fail to start.

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adding ram

by toap - 2/22/08 9:18 PM In reply to: New Computer, simple Question (i think) by Supermanxix

hi supermanxix check your manual this will give you a list of ram that you can use, if you are going to use 2 gigs of ram you may have to use matched ram , remember if your system os is 32 bit any thing over 2 gig of ram will not be shown as installed hope this is of some help . toap

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That is wrong

by froasier - 2/23/08 8:36 AM In reply to: adding ram by toap

Vista Home Premium 32-bit, along with all other 32-bit OS's, supports up to 4 GB of RAM. Depending on your particular configuration, it may show up as less though. For example a Windows XP system with 4 GB of RAM may show anywhere between 2 and 3.8 GB. 64-bit OS's support anywhere from 8 to 128 GB or theoretically more (Vista Home Premium 64-bit supports up to 16 GB).

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wow

by Supermanxix - 2/23/08 10:48 AM In reply to: That is wrong by froasier

So I know 32-bit will support at least 3G, and if I ever want more i need to move to 64-bit, but i did not know it would handle that much, I don't even know what im gonna do with three, as im usin just over 4mg on my current machine. I'm sure 8G (which is the max the new MB will support would blow my mind

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