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Community Newsletter: Q&A: What can I do to improve the speed of my Vista machine?

by Lee Koo (ADMIN) Moderator - 1/11/08 3:13 PM
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What can I do to improve the speed of my Vista machine?

by Lee Koo (ADMIN) Moderator - 1/11/08 3:13 PM

Question:

Hi! Very simple question to the Vista gurus out there. What
can I do to improve the speed of a Vista machine? Seems like
my old expired computer with 98SE was faster, but how can
this be when I have four times more memory (2 GBs), a huge
hard drive of 250 GB, a better video card I think, and a much
faster processor. Vista is nice and pretty and all--moving
icons, nice colors--but why is it so darn slow? From booting
up to shutting down, to open and closing programs, it seems
like Windows took one step backward. OK enough of my
complaints, because that's not what I'm writing in for. I
just wish someone can advise me on some things I can do to
speed up Vista without having to add more hardware to my
fairly new computer (5 months old). Or is this really a lost
hope as to I have just accept what I have and deal with it?
Please say it isn't so. Thanks for listening, I hope you can
help me. Signed the frustrated one.

--Submitted by Darren S.

Answer voted most helpful by the CNET Community newsletter readers:

Looks are expensive, and "Free" costs more than you think...


Unfortunately, you inadvertently pointed out the problem yourself: Vista is about looks. Every one of those effects, from the translucent windows to the pearlescent shine to the oversized icons, eats up processing power that would otherwise be spent on running applications.
Also, much of the new software that comes on a pre-built computer (i.e. the "free" antivirus, AIM, other mfg. programs) are also serious resource hogs. Norton's AV products have been getting worse and worse each year, to the point where they can cut the system's performance in half.

The best handful of "tweaks" you can make to your Vista system to speed it up are as follows:
(Note: You can access the first three of these options by going to Control Panel's Classic View, then clicking Performance Information and Tools.)

1) Change the Theme: By going into Adjust Visual Effects and unchecking things you can do without (you may want to play around to see how you like it), you can remove all of the resource-sucking features of Vista.

2) Disable Indexing: One of the not-so-new features of Vista is the Indexing Service, which quietly catalogs your computer in the background to make searching faster. Problem is, it uses a lot of resources for (IMHO) a not-so-useful function. Yeah, it helps speed up your searches, but it's not worth the performance sacrifice.
You can disable this by going into Adjust Indexing Options, clicking modify, (clicking Show All Locations if applicable) and unchecking everything.

3) Ditch the Bloatware: All that junk that your computer comes with slows it down. By going into Manage Startup Programs, you can stop them from starting with your computer. Leave all the Microsoft Stuff alone, and disable the others that you don't need. If something doesn't work right after reboot (i.e. no Sound or lousy Graphics), you probably disabled a driver. Just go back in and turn it back on. (Granted, this is a little more dangerous than the other options, so exercise common sense here. We don't want to make things worse.)

4) Scrap your Slow Security Software: If you're still using the "free" Antivirus / Security Suite that your computer came with, you might want to consider something else. While I realize I might get flamed for saying this, I recommend something like Windows OneCare or Webroot's Antivirus for their small performance footprint and "set-it-and-forget-it" ease of use. Plus, OneCare can be used on two other PCs, too.

5) Don't be a Packrat: This one is probably the hardest to stick to, but also the simplest solution. Don't install programs you don't need, keep your documents folder organized, and keep the desktop as clutter-free as possible.

Now click "Update my Score" and watch your performance ratings soar!

Happy Computing!
Launchpad_72 aka IAmTheDonut

--Submitted by CNET member Launchpad_72

If you have any additional tips or recommendations for Darren here, please click on the reply link and post away. Please read on for other great advice from our members within this discussion thread. Be sure to check the CNET Windows Vista forum for additional Vista help and advice from your fellow members. Thank you!

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Answer for Vista speed increase

by omiller315 - 12/14/07 7:30 PM In reply to: What can I do to improve the speed of my Vista machine? by Lee Koo (ADMIN) Moderator

Darren
I am an IT professional and have alot of experience with XP and Vista. Vista def requires more horsepower to run than XP.2GB of memory is a good start, which I see you have. I am curious to know what processor you have.If its a slower Celeron based processor, it might not be up to speed for Vista's demanding requirements. Also when you buy a store bought PC(HP/E-Machine/Dell/etc) they come pre bundled with a boat load of startup items..A basic XP boot might have about 35 processes where Vista will have minimum of 50ish and I have seen upwards of 90 on a brand new PC. I would recommend clicking on Run and typing MSCONFIG and looking at the startup tab. If you are unsure of something, dont uncheck it(however if you realize later you need the process to startup) you can easily get it back by doing the same steps.Clean up some of the stuff that runs at startup or the ones the manufacturer gets paid to have run(ex. Internet Services, Google toolbar updater, etc)Also i was never a fan of Vista's Sidebar and have seen that bring a new PC to a crawl for the owner of my company.
Right click My Computer, select properties and check out your Vista Experience score level. See which component is holding you back. Depending on your make and model of your PC and motherboard specs, you can upgrade the processor to a dual core for around $100
All in all I would say the processor and amount of startup processes are the 2 big culprits with Vista. I hope I could be of some assistance. I am running Vista at work with a 1.86 Core 2 Duo processor and 2gb of memory. I like it as a work computer, but have no desire to switch at home even with a quad core processor.
I hope I offered alittle insight on a fix. I dont know how CNET works, but I will glady help you out if there is a way to email me through my Cnet login.

Otto

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Some Vista resources for the Frustrated One

by Doctor Entropy - 1/4/08 2:01 AM In reply to: Answer for Vista speed increase by omiller315

Here are some resources available on TechRepuplic, most are available as download (Acrobat) PDF files. If you are a member of CNET, you're a member of TR also, so downloading woll not be a problem. You can also search TR for yourself, the whole site or by department (Downloads, Articles, Blogs, Forums, etc.). Don't forget, microsoft. com has tips for you also, along with Vista users forums. I hope this helps. I have tried to list the most relevant resources first.

http://downloads.techrepublic.com.com/download.aspx?&q=Vista+%2B+10&docid=279390
10+ tweaks, tricks, and hacks to make Windows Vista fly

http://downloads.techrepublic.com.com/download.aspx?&q=Vista+%2B+10&docid=306999
10 things you can do to increase performance in Vista

http://downloads.techrepublic.com.com/download.aspx?&q=Vista+%2B+10&docid=296633
Windows Vista services that can be disabled

http://downloads.techrepublic.com.com/download.aspx?&q=Vista+%2B+10&docid=298931
How do I... Disable services in Windows Vista?

http://downloads.techrepublic.com.com/download.aspx?&q=Vista+%2B+10&docid=300802l
Follow these tips to boost Vista performancee

http://downloads.techrepublic.com.com/abstract.aspx?&q=Vista+%2B+10&docid=303546
Customize Microsoft Windows Vista

http://downloads.techrepublic.com.com/download.aspx?&q=Vista+%2B+10&docid=279274
Mini-glossary: Windows Vista terms you should know

http://articles.techrepublic.com.com/5100-10877_11-6159639.html
More hidden Windows Vista tricks uncovered

http://whitepapers.techrepublic.com.com/training.aspx?&q=Vista&docid=329558
Implementing, Configuring, and Troubleshooting Windows Vista

http://whitepapers.techrepublic.com.com/whitepaper.aspx?&q=Vista&docid=149548
Windows Vista Hardware

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Slow Boot Up & Surfing Plzzzzzzzz HELP

by Dio1052 - 2/16/08 12:29 AM In reply to: Answer for Vista speed increase by omiller315

I did what you recommended Darrin to do but my comp is still so slow startingup and surfing. I have: Dell Computer, Model: Inspirion 531,
Rating 3.0 Windows Experience Index, Processor:AMD Athalon(tm) 64x2 Dual, Core Processor 4400 + 2.3 GHz, Memory(RAM) 1982 MB,System 32-Bit Operating System.
However when I check the Windows Experience Index and it is as follows: Processor calculation 4.9/sec, Memory Ram operates 5.9/sec.Graphics desktop performance for aero 3.3 (I'm using Vista Basic), Gaming graphics & performance 3.0, Primary Hard Disk data transfer rate 5.8. With all that said it literally takes me 3-4 minutes to even start my computer. All help appreciated. Diane

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normal

by puma - 2/16/08 6:36 AM In reply to: Slow Boot Up & Surfing Plzzzzzzzz HELP by Dio1052

vista is not about performance. it's about eye candy graphics and new unnecessary bells & whistles. there is so much overhead in vista that its taxing your system. for greater performance try Ubuntu Linux

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Dell Inspiron? Symantec Antivirus or McAfee?

by peter_b123 - 2/16/08 12:43 PM In reply to: Slow Boot Up & Surfing Plzzzzzzzz HELP by Dio1052

Turn off either Symantec or McAfee. Does the problem still exist? Have any software that controls a multifunction printer or scanner? Try disconnecting the scanner/printer and see if that helps.

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No Symatec or McAfee or Nortons

by Dio1052 - 2/16/08 12:53 PM In reply to: Dell Inspiron? Symantec Antivirus or McAfee? by peter_b123

I run avast & avg
but thank anyway

Post 9 of 394

Me, personally, I've tried them both....

by peter_b123 - 2/17/08 12:49 AM In reply to: No Symatec or McAfee or Nortons by Dio1052

AVG and Avast - neither one are "good" av programs for Vista, but that's what I've found. Take a look at av-comparatives.org. It's an excellent resource to get a feel for what's good and what's not on the antivirus programs out there.

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Two antiviruses at the same time?

by mikebliv - 2/17/08 5:37 AM In reply to: No Symatec or McAfee or Nortons by Dio1052

If the automatic protection is active on both antiviruses, it might be the culprit. Make sure only one is active.

Also make sure you uninstall Google desktop search. This can be bundled with Dell by default.

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Slow Boot Up & Surfing Plzzzzzzzz HELP

by samlopez - 2/16/08 5:02 PM In reply to: Slow Boot Up & Surfing Plzzzzzzzz HELP by Dio1052

Speeding Up Vista

Here are some resources available on TechRepuplic, most are available as download (Acrobat) PDF files. If you are a member of CNET, you're a member of TR also, so downloading will not be a problem. Don't forget, microsoft. com has tips for you also, along with Vista users forums.

http://downloads.techrepublic.com.com/download.aspx?&q=Vista+%2B+10&docid=279390
10+ tweaks, tricks, and hacks to make Windows Vista fly

http://downloads.techrepublic.com.com/download.aspx?&q=Vista+%2B+10&docid=306999
10 things you can do to increase performance in Vista

http://downloads.techrepublic.com.com/download.aspx?&q=Vista+%2B+10&docid=296633
Windows Vista services that can be disabled

http://downloads.techrepublic.com.com/download.aspx?&q=Vista+%2B+10&docid=298931
How do I... Disable services in Windows Vista?

http://downloads.techrepublic.com.com/download.aspx?&q=Vista+%2B+10&docid=300802l
Follow these tips to boost Vista performancee

http://downloads.techrepublic.com.com/abstract.aspx?&q=Vista+%2B+10&docid=303546
Customize Microsoft Windows Vista

http://downloads.techrepublic.com.com/download.aspx?&q=Vista+%2B+10&docid=279274
Mini-glossary: Windows Vista terms you should know

http://articles.techrepublic.com.com/5100-10877_11-6159639.html
More hidden Windows Vista tricks uncovered

http://whitepapers.techrepublic.com.com/training.aspx?&q=Vista&docid=329558
Implementing, Configuring, and Troubleshooting Windows Vista

http://whitepapers.techrepublic.com.com/whitepaper.aspx?&q=Vista&docid=149548
Windows Vista Hardware

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Slow VISTA machine

by Henry Armstrong - 12/14/07 7:33 PM In reply to: What can I do to improve the speed of my Vista machine? by Lee Koo (ADMIN) Moderator

Dump VISTA and get a copy of Windows XP Pro while it is still available.

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Vista - Is It Slow?

by rnussle - 12/14/07 7:34 PM In reply to: What can I do to improve the speed of my Vista machine? by Lee Koo (ADMIN) Moderator

I live in New England and I've seen sap drip into buckets faster than Vista. A quick background might be in order. I was on a business trip and spilled a glass of water on my notebooks keyboard. I had no option but to purchase another machine right away. All I could find were Vista machines, which I ended up buying. From the get-go I noted the slowness in loading at startup and opening programs. When I got back I decided I'd rather have XP. After receiving no help from the manufacturer or Microsoft both of whom tried to disuade me from removing Vista. I went to our corporate IT manager who, by the way, will not authorize the purchase of a machine with Vista. He reformatted my notebook and loaded XP and it is blazing – perceptibly faster than my two other XP machines. This is not an isolated case; Dell, who at one point shipped only Vista, is now, because of corporate customer demand, is now selling machines with XP when requested.
I went to their site this evening and they have XP machines back on their site. When I looked two months ago XP wasn't an option. I am no computer expert, but in my opinion Vista is going to be Microsoft's next Windows ME. Throw in the FACT that a lot of your existing software may not work or not work well with Vista is something else to consider. A quick Google of 'Vista vs XP' will bring up hundreds of articles on the subject, the bulk of them giving XP the speed award.
I have some friends who purchased new Vista machines only to find that there are no drivers for their existing peripherals. Again, my opinion is that not only is Vista slow, but expensive, as you might have to buy new printers, scanners, etc.
I guess this wasn't very encouraging, but I hope it was helpful in that I hope I confirmed your perception of the slowness of Vista.

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Misconfigured Vista and bad AV software is to blame.

by peter_b123 - 2/16/08 12:47 PM In reply to: Vista - Is It Slow? by rnussle

I'd say that every single one of my Vista nightmares was caused by antivirus software that was purported to work with Vista but does not. System slowness, web browsers that seemed to lock up, system instabilities I've witnessed were caused by AVG, Symantec, McAfee, Kaspersky and ClamAV antivirus programs. It's not the same on all PCs; some work well with the aforementioned software, but some just flat out don't.

By and large the best AV software on Vista that I've found would either be Nod32 or BitDefender.

And yes, I like Vista.

/FLAME:ON

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You could be running the Bluegene

by Dango517 - 12/14/07 7:41 PM In reply to: What can I do to improve the speed of my Vista machine? by Lee Koo (ADMIN) Moderator

but if your links speed is low it wouldn't improve matters. Here is a way to check it:

http://www.speedtest.net/

Add a 10/100/1000 ethernet adapter (this might help) about $30.00.

There are also any number of tweaks that might boost your Vista performance:

http://forums.cnet.com/5208-12546_102-0.html?forumID=133&threadID=264739&messageID=2606663#2606663

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