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Vinyl is better than wine
by Demaclies - 2/1/08 9:02 PM In reply to: How many of us still listen to Vinyl Records by brianooomacI have a large collection, old and new, enjoy listening to them when I can. MP3's are great for storage and portability, but I love my Vinyle for it's classic nature, durability and enduring versatility. It's music, just music, no plugh-ins required, no attached bots, no file corruption, just good oldfashoned, breakable,scratchable records.
LPs
by WGNABOR - 2/1/08 10:34 PM In reply to: Vinyl is better than wine by DemacliesFor those of us who prefer to listen to music, as opposed to whatever most of you are listening to, MP3, i-Anything, and all of that compressed garbage is anathema. OK for Guns 'n Roses, but try listening to Szell conducting the Cleveland Orchestra doing Schubert's 9th without the high and low overtones; and that's with the lousy late 1950's recording technology - still better than the latest i-Pod! CDs were better only because they had no wow & flutter, clicks, pops and other damage-caused noise. THAT was why LPs bit the dust after CDs were introduced. CD sound quality was and still is inferior to a perfect LP, but perfect LPs were hard to find.
I am currently ripping all my LPs to a hard drive using my old Empire turntable and Crown pre-amp with a new Edirol UA-5 analog to digital USB capture device while I still can - finding a replacement stylus for the cartridge is becoming difficult! Now then, do any of you know of a software package that removes hiss, ticks, pops and other noise? One that actually works, that is? I haven't found one, but I'm still looking.
Audio Cleaning Lab
by Mgradyc - 2/2/08 12:50 PM In reply to: LPs by WGNABORI record each album side to hard drive without any filtering. I then edit each side using Magix Audio Cleaning Lab (Magix Computer Products Int. Corp. Germany). It isn't perfect but it does a better job of catching most clicks/pops without degrading audio quality than anything else I've tried. I select filters and levels manually based on the condition of the record, but the automatic "wizard" does a decent job. The "declicker" and "decrackler" eliminate most clicks and pops. Setting them too high may also affect certain percussion sounds, so be careful not to use more than you must. Using the "denoiser", background hiss/hum can be eliminated by sampling a silent section (I use a short section from the space between tracks) which the program then applies to the entire recording. This not only eliminates what is already present in the recording, but also what noise, if any, was introduced by your system and connections to the computer. If you use the "denoiser" this way, you don't need to use the "dehisser" which eliminates a preset amount of tape hiss from the recording. If you want to "sweeten" the treble response a little, use the brilliance enhancer in the Equalizer module. Too much will make the oboes and piccalos sound weird. For the perceptible scratches and pops that this program doesn't catch, I use Audacity (open source from Sourceforge.net) to redraw the wave form on short duration defects (say less than 1/100 sec). I haven't really found a way to deal with minor noises that last much longer without losing perceptible music as well. I also use Audacity to divide the album sides into individual tracks and adjust the overall volume level if necessary. Be sure to only cut a track at a "zero crossing" or you will introduce a small "pop" at the beginning and end of your tracks.
P.S. Before recording I clean the vinyl with warm tap water and dry with a microfiber cloth (always moving in the same direction as the grooves, NEVER across the grooves). This eliminates most static electricity from the disc as well as dust pops. I've never found an anti-static cleaning fluid that does a better job, and most leave residue when dry.
LP Static
by WGNABOR - 2/7/08 6:54 PM In reply to: Audio Cleaning Lab by MgradycThanks to Mgradyc for the software suggestion. My LPs have been cared for such that they don't need washing. Before each playing I use an anti-static brush made specially for LPs, but the radioactive alpha-ray source has long ago half-lived away, so I follow up with a piezo-electric static zapper that works splendidly. I don't suppose either device is available any more. Pity.
using magix
by livewyre - 6/13/08 6:20 PM In reply to: Audio Cleaning Lab by MgradycI totally agree, Magix Audio Cleaning lab is great for removing a LOT if unwanted sounds from recordings, I love the 'denoiser' and use it exactly the same way that you do, though sometimes I tone it down to make sure I retain some of the original ambience..
I made an online guide at: http://www.cassette2cd.co.uk/DIY/
The stereo went years ago. It wasn't replaced.
by Dango517 - 2/1/08 11:08 PM In reply to: How many of us still listen to Vinyl Records by brianooomacI do wish I could listen to some of those old vinyl versions thou. The CD remasters they did of many of those old records and albums really weren't as good as the originals. Many old songs have never been converted to CDs, to bad we've lost a lot. 
So here we go again with a newer format HD or Blue Ray (Still pending). What will we loss this time? For those of you that weren't around then, you'll see. The world just isn't the same without those old songs, next will be your old songs. Sorry, some times new technology just isn't progress in some important small ways.
Blue - ray won!.
by Dango517 - 2/22/08 9:41 PM In reply to: The stereo went years ago. It wasn't replaced. by Dango517
The audiophile listens
by brupub - 2/1/08 11:28 PM In reply to: How many of us still listen to Vinyl Records by brianooomacI just bought a new cartridge for my deck. I admit that I have digitalized some - to listen via portable mp3 at 320kbps (Try it)and wish I could find a better 78 deck to listen to some original Bird labels. I will listen to them until they no longer play. There is nothing like it, even the 320's.
I've naver listen a vinyl record
by jarturof - 2/1/08 11:31 PM In reply to: How many of us still listen to Vinyl Records by brianooomacWhen I was a kid I got cassettes, but I have never listen a vinyl, my grandfather had those, but the mahcine to play them didn't work. Some people I know told me that music sound better in those.
At least once weekly
by mikeskid - 2/2/08 8:48 AM In reply to: How many of us still listen to Vinyl Records by brianooomacAm a 73 year old mainstream jazz fan with a collection of close to 400 LPs and I try to listen as often as I can. It's the only music that I thoroughly enjoy, and could never afford to try to replace them with CDs. I have, however, bought an MP3 player and am in the process of transferring CDs and downloading old favorites where I can. However, since so much is out of print and/or unpopular, I still need to listen to my vinyl. Love it.
Playing vinyl records.
by Rodglodger - 2/2/08 11:12 AM In reply to: How many of us still listen to Vinyl Records by brianooomacI have TONS of old vinyl records ( of course - I'm 75....). If you want a way to play them today, many retailers sell a CROSLEY "old-time" design phono, radio, CD & tape combo unit. It's real cute, and the sound is great (for what it is). The phono plays 78's, 45's & 33 1/3 LP's. It was on sale for $92.95 at Target - I got mine a week ago, and am having a ball listening to my "old-people's music" as my kids like to call it! It has been around for awhile - saw several during Christmas holidays.
Vinyl
by lordiaco - 2/2/08 2:20 PM In reply to: How many of us still listen to Vinyl Records by brianooomacMy dear friend, i must answer this question for you! You don't have a clue how many people, most older, 40-50 years, listen LP's. Just the fact that analog equipment is still most valuable in the Hi-Fi shops can answer your question. But, ther's a thing you may don't get! Just the real music lovers and people that have enough money buy such kind of equipment! It's not some cheap crap as MP3 or CD's! Take a round around and ask what people pay for a good LP, is many time valuable in money then cd's. It can cost up to 200 dollar if it's new for some numbers!
And old turntables, lamp amplifiers, stereo loudspeakers cost many 10.000$ my friend. Just ask a bit around!
Regards Zoran
still got the blues
by jbvmpsmtr - 2/2/08 5:03 PM In reply to: How many of us still listen to Vinyl Records by brianooomacI did it all the time until my turntable went out of order;
no time to fix it (yet),
but I'LL BE BACK!
Many more than you are told about
by TeknoTerroristZ - 2/2/08 5:26 PM In reply to: How many of us still listen to Vinyl Records by brianooomacGood morning, i am (54)fifty four years young! I have somewhere in the region of (280,000)two hundred an eighty thousand tunes.Records over a (100)hundred years old!,over a centaurion of music,from every part an age of this planet,since records began.Our lives are about music!,You, only get the systems(topofdapops tekno/television)version of what they want you to buy.Have you ever been to a TEKNIVAL, outside of the uk,that is any where with(100,000/200,000/300.000) one. two or three hundred thousand people,plus!!! Yeah well,i have a lot of commercial records as well,some of us do.Many of them i have/do not play,but my kids an many people of all ages still play them.I have a set of dex the other side of this (laptop)computer. this table is for electrix,computer,dex,twin tape amps.
This is how some of us actually live! I dont watch tv,nor listen to radios/ nor do i go to places that do not allow my children an or animals(pubs,clubs,bars).You have your version of how you wish to live your life,,we have ours.We live ours!!!,always. Be careful an have fun PaPARIAHTTZ
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