WHAT ABOUT THE THIRD PLAYER .....?? has somebody already heard about the already existend new system , cheaper, better , .....!! ?? who is coming to compete the 2 others .
Thanks for looking it up in the US.
bob
by chance?
If they had come out with universal players that had all the feature set of dedicated players it might have lasted longer. There are some out there now, but it is probably too little too late.
Technology wars do not end with a bang but a whimper.
Just because HD DVD is a loser in a format war doesn't mean it will disappear in a second. The prolonged format wars will wreak havoc on the public good in the end, and I am glad this format war has ended now.
On the other side of the coin, however, Blu-ray should not monopolize the market 'casue it will wreak havoc as well.
Pray to whatever you hold holy that HD makes it. Otherwise, The industry has another "gimme" excuse to rake us over the coals to purchase Blu-Ray. The retooling process alone manufacturing Blu-Ray would be enough for them to choke us to death on purchase price. Then you have the production cost of the units to play Blu-Ray disks to figure in and the ever-lasting profit margins the movie industry always cries about loosing. With HD you have quality that is close enough to satisfy virtually anyone, the ability for the outfits that mass produce DVD's to maintain their current production equipment and a much less expensive player to produce. Is Blu-Ray technically superior? Yes. By a large amount better? No. Does Blu-Ray cost more to produce, retool, and deploy by the market and consumer? Yes. This argument that we HAVE to have Blu-Ray because of it's superior quality is ignorant. Almost as ignorant as the one about 1080i versus p. If your tastes are THAT exacting, you are most likely in a position to purchase whatever you want anyway. For the rest of us that can't afford to toss our current investments in DVD's out the window, give us HD.
The TCO... total cost of ownership... is way higher in Blu Ray. That does not mean more money goes to the studios, but it simply cost more to get a BR on the market compared to HP. One can read a number of posts on that technical topic.
It means that BR disc will continue to be MORE expensive for quite a while, meaning that buying a plain DVD will be more 'palatable' for many years.
I wish BR would die, as it would leave the competitive HD quickly filling the niche of better DVDs at a fair price.
And the market will decide... I can see BR dying of a slow death, like most (ALL) Sony efforts in the media domain.
It would help if the technical press would take sides and help that death to be faster. Is CNET listening?
Having lived through the BetaMax/VHS war I'll gladly wait until this one is over. I love new tech as much as the next person, but I refuse to join the lemmings and get burned while movie studios and hardware makers screw around. I say stop buying both and make them either agree on a format or support both.
We have both HD and Blu-Ray. From a consumer standpoint, HD is better because many of them are offered in a "combo" format of HD on one side, standard on the other. We like this since the standard is playable on our computers, portable DVD player, etc. We're not "stuck" only watching the moving on our home theater. Also, HD plays on the Xbox 360 which integrates our home theater - watching home movies, photos, playing music as well as games and movies - much better than PS3. For some reason, Blu-Ray discs offer very little bonus material compared to HD. But, there are two big reasons HD can survive: (1) combo players will eventually make the question of format moot if HD can survive that long, just as CD-R and CD+R, etc. were made moot (faster than expected) (2) Microsoft is still in the HD camp and most people seem to forget that, but they could be as influential as a major studio. It won't be too long before HD drives will be going on computers. If Microsoft chooses to throw its weight around and provide Vista support for HD drives only, well you get the picture. The biggest loser in all this has of course been the consumer. I believe combo drives will return the power of choice to the consumer where it belongs, though.
For you with both formats and all the "technical" knowledge of the ages, what in the wide, wide world are you waching on these multiple systems that requires all this effort to compel yourself to reach new heighs of knowledge?
Are you, by chance, a rich milionaire who is locked in a custom built viewing room with multiple large screens literally plastered on the walls? I have the TV on in the other room tuned to some great classic "Twilight Zones" (B&W Film). Should I rather be watching on HD or BR?
Please tell me something that all this "stuff" would make a real difference watching that's better than me working out with the girls at the gym, riding my bike and sailing in Spring, Summer and Fall or cross-country skiing right now? I'm waiting!
Simple -- Warner wanted to break the hi def impasse and did the logical thing: it went with the format that had more titles. Its action had the expected effect -- obviously!
For me, the time hasn't yet come to buy a Blu-ray machine. The prices are high, the standard isn't settled, and the professional reviews show them all wanting in one way or another. For a while there, the Panasonic DMP-BD30K looked good -- but then a CNET user reported it won't work with his Samsung HDTV. Since I have a Samsung myself, that puts the kibosh on it at least for now.
Another issue is movies. There aren't that many titles that really interest me in either format. Until that changes, my Toshiba HD-A2 will be good enough.
For those who are really concerned about the future of their high def players, on the horizon is a dual format hd-dvd & blu ray player to be released by samsung & another by LG.
Buy one of these and it won't be a problem.
Really don't give a crap. This an expensive "sport" still, and I only consider blue-ray disks or HD DVD disks as data storage when these devices will be availiable at a logical price for PCs.
Even HEALTHY contention is good for costumers, I really believe that companies will go to a new format soon, after copy protection compromised.
Exept they don't care about profits and all that they said about copyright,where bull.
I was told that Sony offered Warner $ 500.000.000 (yes five hundred million dollars) if they went with Blu-Ray. Fox should have been offered a substancial amount of money too.
I do hope that HD-DVD will has a chance it is the far most superior system.
no more of these foolish vhs vs. beta wars.
Didn't this go on years ago VHS vs beta? VHS won that one. Then wasn't there VHS to DVD? VHS is still around, cheaper and still being made right? I think as soon as you buy one thing that just made it to the market they are really becoming old or obsolete in the idea, invention, engineering sections of production already. So by the time you purchase something a newer idea is already being produced to replace it. That is what life is, Change, constant change. For better or worse. All we can hope is that it will be better for the ecosystem, global warming and good for Mother Earth. Hope all the new products are recyclable, the manufactures are "Green".
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