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Home audio & video: Poll: In your opinion, do you think HD DVD has a chance?

by Lee Koo (ADMIN) Moderator - 1/29/08 10:02 PM
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Post 121 of 208

Blu Ray vs. HD DVD.

by basteko - 1/30/08 8:20 PM In reply to: Poll: In your opinion, do you think HD DVD has a chance? by Lee Koo (ADMIN) Moderator

In this atmosphere of the Federal Gov. specifying HD exclusive broadcasting in 2009, I think it intolerable for format or architecture standardization to be determined in the marketplace. Not only is it confusing to and wasteful of consumer dollars and manufacturing resources, but it does not necessarily yield superior results. In fact, in the case of Beta and VHS, I think the general consensus was that the lesser technology won out by the same method of standardization! Let's put a consortium of interested parties together and hash out a standard that yields greatest results before rushing headlong down one or both paths! A similar approach was taken by the SAE relative to the automotive manufacturing field.

Post 122 of 208

Faulty assumption: FCC NOT mandating HD -- only "digital"

by Cadillac84 - 1/31/08 9:19 AM In reply to: Blu Ray vs. HD DVD. by basteko

The end of analog TV broadcasts is indeed nearing; it is about a year away now. But the broadcasters are NOT ("N" "O" "T" !!!) required to broadcast High Definition. The requirement is that they broadcast a digital signal and abandon the analog bands which will be used for other services.

The choice of whether to provide "high definition" content in the digital broadcast is to be made by the broadcasters and content providers.

There are consortia which deal with these standards; one is known as the Institute of Electrical and Electronics Engineers (IEEE) and their standards are being used right now by me to transmit this message to you as it was being used by you to post your message to which I am responding.

Relax and let the marketplace do its work. You have not been materially affected by the Beta-VHS competition. In fact, if there had been ONLY Beta-Max, you would probably still be watching tapes on a player that cost over a half a grand! SONY is like that!

Competition brought us affordable tape media, affordable optical media, and it will bring us affordable media that we can hardly imagine.

Breathe deeply; slow your heart rate; relax; wait just a little longer now!

Pax

Post 123 of 208

HD is dead, long live Blu-Ray

by Web Webster - 1/30/08 8:22 PM In reply to: Poll: In your opinion, do you think HD DVD has a chance? by Lee Koo (ADMIN) Moderator

There are really two threads going on here - one is about standard def TV (and DVD) vs. high def, and the other is about HD vs. Blu-Ray.

To those of you who are in denial about high def - enjoy life on your planet, wherever it is. The fact of the matter is that high def (and high def's accomplice, 16:9 aspect ratio) is a dramatic improvement over even the best standard def equipment. All you have to do is look at it with an open mind, and you won't want to go back. Of course you have to have both a high def source and a high def TV to see the difference, but if the chain is complete, the difference is huge. I recommend "Night at the Museum" in Blu-Ray on any Blu-Ray Player and any HDTV capable of at least 1080i resolution. The movie is cute but the point is that the pictures are sharp and clear and natural. The difference is really amazing.

The other thread is Blu-Ray vs. HD. Blu-Ray is better and will be viable longer than HD. It's as simple as that. Sony did some very smart things and they came up with a truly superior format. Remember the attempts that both VHS and Beta formats made at improved resolution? They were weak and nobody used them. HD is the same deal, but for DVDs. It's a compromise between quality and the cost of equipment for manufacturing disks - and quality lost. Plus Blu-Ray uses Java for firmware, which provides considerable flexibility and relatively easy user-friendly firmware upgrades. This is important, because HD standards and techniques are still evolving.

I don't doubt that $100 Blu-Ray players will be available some day, but for me the magic number was $300. Several big electronics outlets had under-$300 Sony Blu-Ray machines just before Christmas. That was enough for me. I bought my Blu-Ray player at Circuit City as a Christmas present to myself the day I saw the ad, and I am totally happy with it.

C'mon, give in. You KNOW you want to . . .

Post 124 of 208

I see a YUPPIE

by ViroCMN - 1/30/08 9:51 PM In reply to: HD is dead, long live Blu-Ray by Web Webster

All I can see is a YUPPIE who likes his toys. There is a planet called the BIG PICTURE! Which it seems u locked out of. Blu-Ray may be a better format but the story is hard 2 swallow, the background is dark and we will fight!

Post 125 of 208

HD-DVD vs BluRay the coup d'gras is comming

by Pappyshappy - 1/30/08 8:41 PM In reply to: Poll: In your opinion, do you think HD DVD has a chance? by Lee Koo (ADMIN) Moderator

The end of HD-DVD will come as Sony delivers the coup d'gras by releasing a $200 BluRay player that also plays HD-DVD. The BluRay material will play better but the HD-DVD will still be superior to DVD.

Post 126 of 208

I hope HD DVD will live, only a fool lets sony win!

by techreviewer910 - 1/30/08 8:47 PM In reply to: Poll: In your opinion, do you think HD DVD has a chance? by Lee Koo (ADMIN) Moderator

I would not, will not buy a sony product. I used to love their products, nice sound at a reasonable price. Until I bought a mini disk digital recorder that swore it recorded in MP3 (this was very early in MP3 life). As it turned out it turned MP3's into their proprietary Atrac format. As well, the sonic software was terrible. I've been using computers since before there were Mac's and PC's, I kept trying to make it work. Pretty soon I couldn't return the machine. I haven't bought sony since. When you buy a sony Laptop or other sony computer it doesn't have ripping software on it (or didn't, I got out of the biz about 18 months ago), and my fear was always that it might not run any ripping software even if purchased separately.

This is also a big reason I won't buy Ipods, Itunes takes over ownership of your music. You can't load music from two different computers ( I use at least 4). I was a very early Mac user and loved them, but Apple has made too many deals with the devil, or many devils for my taste. I want to own my music and I don't want it erased If I choose to load music from another computer.

Folks, when you buy, you are voting with your dollars. US consumers have become sheep. They are led around by the nose, the marketing hype. When you buy, do some research, find out about the product, find out if you can use it the way you want. Would you buy a car that only allowed you to use Exxon gas? (Don't get me started on the oil industry)

Sony didn't make it when they put a stranglehold on video recording using betamax tape. Don't buy sony products, don't buy blu ray disks, don't buy blu ray players. Or we may end up in a sony video world, they will own and make the movies, set the price of tickets, set the price of disks, and set the price of equipment. Make sony bite the bullet, don't buy blu ray.
Rick

Post 127 of 208

Don't Buy Sony

by ViroCMN - 1/30/08 9:47 PM In reply to: I hope HD DVD will live, only a fool lets sony win! by techreviewer910

I believe Rick is right. I've been around the digital world before it arrived, I've been watching at a distance and can really say that what I see is offensive when it comes to hungry corporations. I don't by sony products anymore. I just don't want to, the ugly feeling I get when I see them is scary, Camera's I love Cannon, Cell phones I love Nokia, TV's I'd go with a JVC or something as with car audio, rockford etc. I avoid Sony like a virus. I ask the readers to spread the word. I have a right to my opinion and voice. I say SONY SUCKS!

Post 128 of 208

I hate Sony too!!!

by bear740 - 1/30/08 11:02 PM In reply to: I hope HD DVD will live, only a fool lets sony win! by techreviewer910

I agree with you on this, if we let Sony win this battle, we will be under their thumb which is what they want. I can see high prices for Blu-Ray disk, and players if they knock out HD-DVD. I have never liked Sony, to me their products are high price, and no better than other brands that are much cheaper. They are the Japanese Company who's CEO said that American workers were lazy and that we were a lazy country. From that day, I vowed to never own any Sony equipment. I bought a XBOX because it was just better than the PS2, but if it were not, I still would have purchased it. The XBOX 360 is better than the PS3, it has outsold the PS3, but both have not sold as well as the Wii. I read here on Cnet that in the past week the Blu Ray has taken 90% of the market, but what they fail to tell you is that most people have not purchased either one, and the only reason that the Blu ray has that distinction is the sales of the PS3 which has a blu ray player built in. We are not talking millions of units here, only in the mere thousands and that over the whole country is nothing. They assume that if the major movie companies like Warner says they are on the blu ray band wagon then Blu ray will win, but again, right now blu ray is not selling very well and most people are simply buying the movies in regular DVD format. I asked a sales person at Circuit City and he told me they are not selling hardly any blu ray, and in fact was selling more HD-DVD simply because the players are much cheaper, but most sales are still regular DVD. Even if a larger percentage of movie companies go blu ray, people do not buy movies by who the movie company is, they buy it for the movies they like and if they like a movie that only comes in HD-DVD, and maybe one in BLU ray, they will purchase the DVD version because they are not going to buy two players. I always said the way around this is make a player that plays both then both can survive. If that happens, and HD-DVD disks are much cheaper to make, guess what will happen, eventually movie companies will start making movies in both formats and see which sells, even if they are the same price, if it is even, then they will go with HD-DVD simply because they will save money on the cheaper format except of course movie companies owned by sony. I say just make a player that reads both and let both be on the market. I bet eventually there will be more HD-DVD disks eventually from the companies that are not owned by Sony and that is the way to beat sony.

Post 129 of 208

"Sony" is not interchangeable with "Blu-ray"

by minimalist - 1/31/08 5:58 AM In reply to: I hate Sony too!!! by bear740

Sony makes blu-ray players along with a dozen other manufacturers. They sit on the board of directors for the Blu-ray Disc Association along with 17 other consumer electronics makers including Samsung, Sharp, LG, Phiilips, Mitsubishi, Pioneer and Sharp.

Sony does not "control" blu-ray.

Post 130 of 208

Does HD DVD have a chance?

by radiojerry - 1/30/08 8:48 PM In reply to: Poll: In your opinion, do you think HD DVD has a chance? by Lee Koo (ADMIN) Moderator

My first VCR was Beta, I thought 8-track was better than cassette. I have come to the point where I voted the way I now feel which is I really REALLY don't give a crap!

Post 131 of 208

What format war?

by TreknologyNet - 1/30/08 8:53 PM In reply to: Poll: In your opinion, do you think HD DVD has a chance? by Lee Koo (ADMIN) Moderator

Remember when DVDs came in RAM, -RW and +RW? I waited until I could get a burner that did the lot.

I can wait for a dual compatible burner for BluRay and HD. By then there might actually be some titles out there that I'm interested in buying.

Post 132 of 208

END Of the DAY

by ViroCMN - 1/30/08 10:46 PM In reply to: What format war? by TreknologyNet

I agree, its the moral of the story, lets hope the executive staff see these types of forums, hope they catch a wake up very soon.

Post 133 of 208

Yes, absolutely

by hsingmy3 - 1/30/08 9:16 PM In reply to: Poll: In your opinion, do you think HD DVD has a chance? by Lee Koo (ADMIN) Moderator

HD DVD is going on the offensive now with competative pricing, actually it's a no brainer because the HDDVD players are much cheaper and good quality, and will start an ad compaign to address these issues. I don't think it's a fair comparison to say this is similar to beta vs vhs back in the day because people own many more electronics today and there are so many products to choose from. Also HD DVD is much more customer friendly with the firmware upgrades you can do yourself without hving to buy a new player every couple of years. Sony seems to care ONLY about the dollar and that will hurt them in the long run.

Post 134 of 208

HD DVD Rocks!

by ViroCMN - 1/30/08 9:35 PM In reply to: Poll: In your opinion, do you think HD DVD has a chance? by Lee Koo (ADMIN) Moderator

People are getting sick of following a crowd like sheep, I think like AMD and LINUX I expect to find HD on a major comeback. The underdog will always come up, its a modern fact. I think its all started with the 'BIG software company', I expect HD to pull up their socks and get ready 4 a fight. Ask the public for support by advertising the warrior underdog!

Post 135 of 208

I got a combination deck

by larry123 - 1/30/08 9:47 PM In reply to: Poll: In your opinion, do you think HD DVD has a chance? by Lee Koo (ADMIN) Moderator

I bought a combination deck for VHS and DVD when they first came out. So I'll buy a combination HB-DVD and Blu-ray as well. Works for me.

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