still quite happy with my current system, most of it i bought back in 98. The tv still looks great and wont get any better with any hi def video equipment. And theres more to consider than just the purchase price of the the player. Like the cost of changing out all my other accessories, since everything i have is connected to each other and goes through my stereo system including my computer. Every time I pass a hd tv in a dept store I've yet to be impressed enough to think "oh I've got to have that".
Why not just make a player capable of reading both?
I bought the Samsung BD-UP5000 which plays both very well, thank you!
Yeah, for $800! Now when that drops to $98, we're talking mass appeal!
But I don't think the price of dual-format players has to drop quite that low. Hundred dollar players of either format will sell robustly if there is any confidence in the longevity of the format. Dual-format players less than two hundred (perhaps in the $175 range) should sell well enough.
You are correct that at $800, they will not sell beyond the "enthusiast." And even in that niche, the only reason to buy a dual-format instead of buying one of each, would be to cut down on cable clutter.
This was all supposed to have taken place before last Christmas. I'd say the HD-DVD player folks failed their marketing classes!
I agree with you. The price-point for me was under $200, which is why I got the 360 Add-on back when. The $98 A2 was just too good to pass up. If a standalone BD player comes out for under $200 of equal quality, I'll probably buy one of those too!
BARACK OBAMA OR THE CATHOLIC CHURCH???
BAD CHOICE OF PHRASES!
I remember the Betamax vs VHS war ao I can wait, but actually it's pointless for me to buy either until I upgrade to an HD TV. My Big old sony tube tv still has legs and a good picture so I won't replace that until something goes wrong anyway. By then the issue should be moot.
Besides I worked in the electronics industry for many years and we had an old saying, "by the time it comes off the drawing board and into production it's already obsolete!"
But maybe NOT as a standalone player. A PC based R\RW would solve a slew of backup problems. I'm not sure 15G would do... But if multiple disks could be spanned... This would be a great media for long term drive backup.
I dont know how many of you remember the format war of Beta-max and VHS, but Beta-max had the best picture and smallest format at the time.The movie industry went with VHS formost and we the suckers who bought beta-max machines were the loosers. Sony was the developer for the Beta machines and JVC was the developer for the VHS. Sony is determined not to loose this war, but us as consumers should stick with the HD format. Most new laptops and some desk tops come with HD players and DVD recorders now. I for one will not give up my HD players for the Blue-ray players until there are no more DVDs on the market.
I agree, the format wars are a pain... Beta WAS superior to VHS by far. As a musician and audio/video hobbyist-technician, it will be in our best interest over the long hall to embrace Blue ray. They both have Pro's & Con's, but technically and visually, the formats are indistinguishable. Sony's technology and r&d has always been one of the best at pioneering video technology. My hopes is they ALL learn from their mistakes and work together on a format for the future that everyone can benefit from. Unfortunately, that will never happen as long as "money" and "power" rule their desires...
Yet another misconception.
Panasonic owns all of the patents/rights.
Perhaps that's why they've been consistenly making the best quality stand alone bluray players for a while now.
This is Beta with another name. No chance of it making it now!
I sell software to video stores. And the reason video stores don't carry many hi-def dvd's is because of this format war. Until the war ends and there is a clear winner, you won't see many video stores, or consumers start really purchasing big time.
Because Warner Bros is such a major studio, And Disney is with Blu-Ray, this will hopefully be the end of the war.
Then we can all run down and spend billions of dollars to put new BDVD's in our cabinet so we can watch them collect dust. Or, we can wise up and go rent most of our movies from our local video store for $3 or $4 and save ourselves thousands of dollars.
Nah, we'll just go rent a mini-storage so someday we can have a big garage sale and sell our unused dvd's and Bdvd's! LOL
Yeah, it looks bad for HD DVD right now but nothing is set. Remember, consumers have loyalty to the formats, studios don't. Warner, Fox, and Disney could choose at anytime to go HD DVD. It's really not out of the realm of possibility.
Paramount is locked into contract to HD DVD throughout the year and Universal is fervent on it's backing of HD DVD because they truly believe it to be the better format. So it's easy to see that those 2 will keep HD DVD above water for the year. HD DVD player prices will continue to go down and Toshiba is spending alot on advertising (including the Super Bowl), so they're not giving up.
I own both formats and I still see HD DVD as the superior format. The interactive features are better, the players firmware upgrades are better(some early Blu players don't even work with new discs) and some of the discs on both formats are better on HD DVD as Blu-Ray is know to be more difficult to develop for. It's also a better upconverting player for regular dvd's, of which I've seen with my own eyes.
In the end Blu-Ray may continue on and win and I've settled that in my mind. The ultimate solution though is for companies to keep making dual format players and make them more affordable. Then whatever happens, adopters of either side have a good solution.
I was asked if HD DVD will survive the summer and I absolutely believe it will. I wouldn't be suprised at all if we were here again next year asking the same question.
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