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Home audio & video: Poll: In your opinion, do you think HD DVD has a chance?
- 1/29/08 10:02 PM
Yes
by DocCasualty - 1/30/08 9:34 AM In reply to: Poll: In your opinion, do you think HD DVD has a chance? by Lee Koo (ADMIN)
People keep referring to this as a war. Loss of a battle does not equal loss of a war. HD DVD is available now less expensively to the consumer and is a complete format. There is no difference in PQ between the two formats and the advantages of BD over HD DVD are much more theoretical than practical.
HD DVD definitely has taken a hit here from WB but I don't see it as the coup de gras. Now if the BD boys come out tomorrow with a $98 standalone player, we've got a different discussion here.
I don't get these arguments regarding players
by Rollbar - 1/30/08 10:53 AM In reply to: Yes by DocCasualtyI only marginally noticed the price of players; HD-DVD or Blu-ray. For me, it was all about which movies were in what format. Unfortunately I discovered that my favorites were split between the two formats. So I bought both players. At the time Warner was still HD-DVD.
Now, I don’t think any Board of Directors is going to approve the necessary capital investment in HD-DVD to give it a boost and will likely see such proposals as good money after bad.
Sorry, HD camp. I did my part; I bought an HD-DVD player to sit beside my PS3. I have HD-DVDs and will be watching them. I may buy more if I see titles not in BD or if there is an HD-DVD fire sale. 
Gary
do you think HD DVD has a chance?
by magicdonkey - 1/30/08 2:42 PM In reply to: Poll: In your opinion, do you think HD DVD has a chance? by Lee Koo (ADMIN)
Don't really care I got a PS3 with blu-ray
and that works for me
I hope HD DVD dies a fast death..
by ZoltanGZ - 1/31/08 10:17 AM In reply to: do you think HD DVD has a chance? by magicdonkey...unlike VHS did vs. Betamax, and CD vs. SACD or DVD audio! It's about time that people wise up about BETTER QUALITY, rather than just mediocre continuation of some pre-existing format stretched to a higher lever by greedy manufacturers. These manufacturers who throw out an abundance of MEDIA along with half baked technological improvements of the equipment that is able to play this media, know WELL IN ADVANCE, that the newer, better technology is already in the works,albeit at higher cost, and when all the 'guinea pig' customers gobble up the cheaper, more abundant lesser formats, the manufacturers come down with the boom, and lo and behold present the better, more advanced and FAR higher quality media and equipment, making the earlier buyers' investments worth .. well as much as cow manure!
No
by Dashkatt - 1/30/08 2:43 PM In reply to: Poll: In your opinion, do you think HD DVD has a chance? by Lee Koo (ADMIN)
All's fair in Love & War and HD/BlueRay DVD players. Both company's knew better than to pull this crap, especially SONY. Of course Sony appears to be the winner, but are they? With the HD going bye-bye, the pressure will be exerted on Sony to get more boxes in the living room. At today's Blue Ray price, even now, I wouldn't waste my time even looking at one. My price point is $100 bucks. Any more than that they can keep it.
As for HD-DVD bargains... Don't wait too long, the manufacturers weren't that stupid to produce millions of these things knowing they could become the next big paperweight. The inventory will go away much sooner than the price drops to the absolute bottom.
Serves them both right for mucking up things with 2 different formats.
An angry Beta-Max owner... Forgive yes, forget, hell no.
HD-DVD Won't Survive!
by palavering - 1/30/08 2:46 PM In reply to: Poll: In your opinion, do you think HD DVD has a chance? by Lee Koo (ADMIN)
Content is everything. And Toshiba's format has only two major studios backing it. If you don't think content is what really matters for media gadgets, just ask MS about its Zune player. MS is trying to attract more content for the Zune player because it will never compete with Sony, otherwise.
I dont think it will
by gamer73 - 1/30/08 2:53 PM In reply to: HD-DVD Won't Survive! by palaveringI think we are stepping into the blu ray soon but like the old dvd players I didnt and still will not upgrade to a blu ray player till they are 100 or less dollars I like my new parts for computers but I dont see the whole advantage to blu ray since the burners are also way over priced.
Notice of the death of HD-DVD is somewhat exagerated!
by mustangbaz - 1/31/08 9:04 AM In reply to: HD-DVD Won't Survive! by palaveringWe have to remember that whilst most of the big players are on their third generation machines, only HD-DVD players fully meet the specs regarding PIP, interactive content, HD audio formats etc. For goodness sake, the latest top-of-the-line Sony does not even meet BD 1.1 (let alone 2.0)and does not even have networking, so how's a buyer to access interactive content? The price drop for Tosh machines may yet cause a turnaround, so don't gloat yet you BluRay fanboys.
people always seem to follow
by kscson - 1/30/08 2:47 PM In reply to: Poll: In your opinion, do you think HD DVD has a chance? by Lee Koo (ADMIN)
I say no...HD is gone because that's what's being pumped into their brains. I'd say pretty much what people are programed into thinking...they follow!!
Remember Betamax
by nevido - 1/30/08 2:47 PM In reply to: Poll: In your opinion, do you think HD DVD has a chance? by Lee Koo (ADMIN)
HD DVD may last with the installed base just as Betamax did for a while, but manufacturers will stop producing them once it's clear there's a winner. Movies only out on HD DVD will switch formats when those studios see their market is larger on the other side.
NO
by Dabonka1 - 1/30/08 2:47 PM In reply to: Poll: In your opinion, do you think HD DVD has a chance? by Lee Koo (ADMIN)
HD DVD is in its "death throlls". Their basically trying the only remaining option{s} they have left... which is mainly lowering the price as far down as possible to try to gain some additional market share. And I'm not bashing... this is the way the market turned... and it is what it is... and too bad cause their technology is not bad at all. Unfortunately, with roughly 70% of the movies now camped out on BD. Its all over but the shouting. HD DVD may actually still be around for a long time {years possibly}.... But, this is like comparing goole.com {+70% market share} to all the other search engines. Sure some people like ask.com but in reality... there is not much compelling reason to use anything other than google. Same way ...there's really not a compelling reason for someone to buy HD DVD now. When 7 out of the next 10 movies being released will be on BD. Who knows... maybe they can get some kind of anti-trust case going LOL ...become the next AMD {vs Intel +70% market-share}.
HD DVD can have regular DVD in the same disc
by jcboyer - 1/30/08 2:50 PM In reply to: Poll: In your opinion, do you think HD DVD has a chance? by Lee Koo (ADMIN)
If were a retailer, I would choose a format that minimizes the additional SKUs. HD can have BOTH regular DVD on one side and HD on the other. If Paramount decides to issue all new DVD as HD at the same price point, the war is over... The retailers will stock 1 sku and will start to ask BR BIG money to provide with adequate shelf space. That will bring BR to its knees as a) the DVD will cost more, and b) the players will be way over priced compared to HD.
From a consumer standpoint the issue is simple: If I buy a dvd today, can I get a better picture tomorrow for FREE. If the answer is yes, I will choose that option.
Some people, at CNET and other places, believe that content will make or break the BR vs HD. Possible. But the game is still young and we have seen many reversals of technology... the one that comes to mind is Sony's Betamax. It did NOT matter what content Betatmax had or did not have, when the Blockbusters of this world stopped renting it... it was doomed. Netflix still rent HD.
Some feel that the war is not to be as we will download VC1 video streams and bypass BR/HD. Possible. We have that same discussion with printed books vs electronic version of the same. Both will coexist for some time.
Then there is Microsoft, the fact that HD connects to the Internet, the strenght of HD players in internal memory and upscaling older DVD, especially for 'better' players.
I was disappointed to see how CNET reacted to Warner's posturing. It is ignoring that Toshiba, Paramount and Microsoft are very significant players in the DVD arena. For example the Microsoft content is nothing to sneeze about as it sells millions of DVDs a day (Software, for sure, but still DVDs)
The battle with Warner may be lost, but the war is not over. We need to see how the silent players react.
Jerome Boyer
I just bought a HD-DVD player in my new laptop, and now this
by pblanton - 1/30/08 3:00 PM In reply to: HD DVD can have regular DVD in the same disc by jcboyerI just bought a new HP dv9700t laptop (hasn't been delivered yet) and they are currenty offering the HD-DVD upgrade for $75.
HD-DVD ROM with SuperMulti DVD+/-R/RW Double Layer!! -- $75
While Blue Ray costs $275
Blu-Ray ROM with SuperMulti DVD+/-R/RW Double Layer -- $275
So I went with the HD-DVD option. Heck, for $75 I couldn't resist. The PC comes with a discrete video card and HDMI port so I can connect it straight to my 42" LCD TV and watch HD! (or surf the web, or write a letter...)
Anyway, I expected the battle would be over as soon as I took a side, and it would not be in my favor.
Yes, why not?...
by FCBarca - 1/30/08 2:51 PM In reply to: Poll: In your opinion, do you think HD DVD has a chance? by Lee Koo (ADMIN)
There are a few issues at work that suggest the format not only surviving but even thriving, IMHO.
One, upconverting regular DVDs...The requirement that consumers will have to have at minimum 2 DVD players (Both standard and BluRay) already make it a less appealing option...And if you're going to be forced to have 2, why not have one that is HD-DVD that will upconvert your regular DVD anyway?
Two, price still prohibitive to go BluRay.
Third and my biggest 'issue' with BluRay has been the proprietary nature of Sony and their media...Consumers are being forced to (Limited choices as more and more band up with BluRay and the studios) to adopt multiple formats rather than a player that can play everything.
I have my Planet Earth and a few other HD-DVDs and I have no plans to sign up with BluRay in the near or longterm future...Why should I?
The Blu-Ray / HD-DVD format war is a lose-lose scenario
by samjemb - 1/30/08 2:52 PM In reply to: Poll: In your opinion, do you think HD DVD has a chance? by Lee Koo (ADMIN)
It is nothing more than hubris and greed that has held back the widespread adoption of a standard HD disc format. Both factions should have worked together long ago to agree on a unified format. Had they done so, HD players would have already been in just about every home entertainment system, and we could all be enjoying the benefits of HD movies.
Instead, sales of HD players and HD media have been lackluster at best, and no one is benefiting from the dual standard. As much as I love High Definition movies and TV (and I really do love it!), I have refused to embrace either Blu-Ray or HD-DVD until one format wins the war, or an entirely new format supplants both of them (which I think would be a very fitting scenario!).
David
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