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by dan_w - 11/23/07 9:10 PM
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NAS Enclosure Suggestions

by dan_w - 11/23/07 9:10 PM

hello,
I'm looking for some advice from anyone who has a NAS enclosure kit. I have a couple of PC's in my home and would like to have a central backup place for my files as well as a Itunes server.

I already have a spare hard drive and just need a good enclosure to match it with.

I'd like to get the enclosure for cheap (if that's possible) but want something that's not going to die right after I get it.

Any advice?

Post 2 of 22

nas

by ramarc - 11/25/07 11:33 AM In reply to: NAS Enclosure Suggestions by dan_w

i assume your spare HD is an ide drive. if so, that somewhat limits your choices since most new NASes support SATA drives.

this linksys NSLU2 has no drive bays so you'd need a USB enclosure:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16833124036
the NSLU2 has several replacement firmwares available for it that can turn it into a linux based NAS/file/streaming-music server much better than the built-in software.
$20 usb case: http://www.geeks.com/details.asp?invtid=BLK-CX3501PL-1&cat=CSE
nslu2 replacement firmware: google "linksys nslu2 linux" and http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NSLU2

i don't know much about this trendnet unit: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822708001

here's linksys' SATA NAS with 2 drive slots: http://www.buy.com/prod/linksys-nas200-network-storage-system-with-2-bays/q/loc/101/205689222.html
i don't know if this ide-to-sata will fit: http://www.geeks.com/details.asp?invtid=RXD639-IDE-SATA-ADP&cat=HDD

Post 3 of 22

ok

by dan_w - 11/25/07 8:43 PM In reply to: nas by ramarc

Thanks for the info. I didn't realize that the NSLU2 didn't have any drive bays.

Also, what's the deal with NTFS and FAT32 format? is it just that FAT32 doesnt support over 4gb for a single file, or is it more than that?

Post 4 of 22

for a nas

by ramarc - 11/27/07 7:34 AM In reply to: ok by dan_w

as you mentioned, ntfs vs fat32 is typically just for large file support. the firmware in most nas are too simple to take advantage of ntfs' other benefits.

Post 5 of 22

and ntfs uses smaller clusters

by ramarc - 11/27/07 7:36 AM In reply to: for a nas by ramarc

so less wasted space

Post 6 of 22

--

by dan_w - 11/28/07 9:21 AM In reply to: and ntfs uses smaller clusters by ramarc

Thanks everyone,
I am hoping to get everything under the same device. Is there a device that uses SATA drives and NTFS?

I've seen this one off of ebay and "looks" like what I'm looking for.

http://cgi.ebay.com/SATA-NTFS-Vista-FTP-Samba-NAS-Network-Storage-Enclosure_W0QQitemZ200167776942QQcmdZViewItem

Post 7 of 22

Very very strange.

by R. Proffitt Moderator - 11/28/07 9:52 AM In reply to: -- by dan_w

I don't mean to start a revolt here but why would I want to specify the file system for a NAS? Shouldn't the NAS use what would be best for it's own "world"?

Bob

Post 8 of 22

go with the linksys nas200

by ramarc - 11/29/07 10:37 AM In reply to: -- by dan_w

if you want sata drives. this one is the same price as that ebay unit: http://www.buy.com/prod/linksys-nas200-network-storage-system-with-2-bays/q/loc/101/205689222.html

and like the nslu2, there are replacement firmware versions that can greatly extend its capabilities.

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NAS or Hard Drive Case with Built in USB Hub

by dan_w - 1/2/08 12:10 PM In reply to: go with the linksys nas200 by ramarc

Is there a benefit from a NAS enclosure or a Hard Drive Enclosure with a built in USB 2.0 hub?

Post 10 of 22

YES.

by R. Proffitt Moderator - 1/2/08 12:17 PM In reply to: NAS or Hard Drive Case with Built in USB Hub by dan_w

I have one of those and it provides a way to put some USB memory stick or other USB hard disk on the NAS and network.

Post 11 of 22

What about xtrastor?

by fliv - 1/12/08 1:09 PM In reply to: go with the linksys nas200 by ramarc

I have never heard of this brand before. I'm curious to know if this model or brand is any good.
http://www.meritline.com/3-5-sata-hdd-enclosure-with-cooling-fan-ed-35-lan-g-sa.html

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NAS200 & ntfs

by bigeasy72 - 1/23/08 4:25 AM In reply to: -- by dan_w

Hi all
Doing some research into NAS drives, and the Linksys NAS200 looks good, but I have a question: Can the drives be formatted ntfs. I heard that you can only format fat32. As far as I understand, this would mean that you cannot assign different access rights per folder to different users or groups on the network, but can only share folders

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NFTS Support

by fliv - 1/23/08 5:05 AM In reply to: NAS200 & ntfs by bigeasy72

Check this out on Ebay, again I have no idea of the quality of this item but would like to know.
http://cgi.ebay.com/SATA-NTFS-Vista-FTP-Samba-NAS-Network-Storage-Enclosure_W0QQitemZ360015246968QQihZ023QQcategoryZ1484QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

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NAS implements its own security

by ramarc - 1/23/08 5:43 AM In reply to: NAS200 & ntfs by bigeasy72

unlike external drive enclosures, NASes have a OS and manage the drive and its security. although you can manage some settings from your PC, the NAS OS implements the security so the underlying file system of the drive is not important.

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NAS Drive

by bigeasy72 - 1/23/08 6:32 AM In reply to: NAS implements its own security by ramarc

Thanks for the feedback, Ramarc. Do you know where I can find a little more info on this. Can one set access rights on the drive, per folder/file and per user/group?

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