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Community Newsletter: Q&A: Advice needed for ripping a huge music CD collection

by Lee Koo (ADMIN) Moderator - 1/18/08 4:08 PM
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Post 211 of 301

EAC is the best

by nextivity - 1/19/08 10:03 AM In reply to: Advice needed for ripping a huge music CD collection by Lee Koo (ADMIN) Moderator

If you are serious about what you are doing, ignore every other post on this thread and go to http://jiggafellz.isa-geek.net/eac/. Read it carefully, follow all the instructions, and then determine what rip rate you want. I recommend V0, its the perfect compromise between size and quality. 320kbps is complete overkill, you will never hear it. If you wanted to rip in 320 you'd be better off going to a lossless format like FLAC, which you can also do with EAC if you wish.

Anyway, hope this helps. The amount of stupid people posting on this thread is ridiculous.

Post 212 of 301

Ripping Progrmas

by jtorres524 - 1/19/08 10:17 AM In reply to: Advice needed for ripping a huge music CD collection by Lee Koo (ADMIN) Moderator

Try mediamonkey and to fix your tags use Mp3tag v239... They are great programs. Check them up

Post 213 of 301

An audiophile's advice

by zunefan1 - 1/19/08 11:51 AM In reply to: Advice needed for ripping a huge music CD collection by Lee Koo (ADMIN) Moderator

The best thing you can do is to buy a large external hard-drive(750GB- 1 TB)
Then download Microsoft Zune's software. Import your CDs using Windows Lossless(970kbps-1100kbps). The program will conveniently import the track names, album artwork and put your music in well marked folders. Then get COWON A3-60SL 60GB Portable Media Player (Silver. You can drag and drop the files for the albums you listen to most directly onto the player. You'll be able to fit about 2000 songs in audiophile quality on the player.

Description:ntroducing the most versatile portable multimedia experience for digital media enthusiasts, the COWON A3 delivers a full range of high-end video/audio capabilities. The successor to the top-rated A2, the A3 PMP features HD video output (1280x720) for movie playback on HDTV and direct recording from external A/V devices (TV, VCR or camcorder) for viewing on a 4-inch widescreen color TFT LCD. The COWON A3¿s digital video performance is optimized by the latest Texas Instruments DaVinci DM6441 digital media processor ¿ and an expanded hard-drive capacity of 30GB or 60GB provides maximum digital media storage. Designed for the best digital video experience, the A3 features HD video output via component, s-video or composite connections. The COWON A3 also boasts the industry¿s most expansive digital media format and codec support, including popular lossy and lossless audio codecs True Audio, Monkey¿s Audio, Musepack, WavPack, Matroska, FLAC and Ogg Vorbis; and video codecs DivX, XviD, MPEG-4 SP/ASP, WMV, H.264 MP and M-JPEG. Additionally, the A3 comes equipped with an FM radio and recorder, voice recorder with internal microphone, built-in stereo speakers, and it functions as a full-screen photo and document viewer. With its high-speed USB 2.0 interface and USB host functionality, the COWON A3 also doubles as a data storage and high-capacity photo backup device for digital cameras with support for JPEG, GIF, PNG, TIF, BMP and RAW image formats.

Post 214 of 301

advice for ripping a big cd collection

by senga55 - 1/19/08 11:57 AM In reply to: Advice needed for ripping a huge music CD collection by Lee Koo (ADMIN) Moderator

Ive found a web site called limewire.com and it is totally free. I can burn music on to cds mp3 players and ipods.If you want to try this site all you have to do is log on to limewire.com search for the songs that you want to download, then they will appear in the library. once you have the songs you want in the library, you will then have to minimize limewire and get itunes up. Once you have done that go back to limewire click explore and drag the songs to itunes. when there all in itunes you can download them to your mp3 or burn them onto cds. I hope this is ok and that you will try limewire out if you already have not. if you have any prblems transfering them from one to the ohter please let me no andI will help you out a bit more. Debbie

Post 215 of 301

Ripping Music

by demartin54 - 1/19/08 12:15 PM In reply to: Advice needed for ripping a huge music CD collection by Lee Koo (ADMIN) Moderator

Dan,

I would rip them all to FLAC so you have all of your music at a higher quality (LOSSLESS) that anything MP3 can do. Once you have your music in FLAC format then you can pick select songs from your collection to rip to MP3. You can stream your higher quality music around your home and just take MP3's on the road.

Hard disk space is cheap, I'd go for quality first. I'm a Mac user and I recommend Max to do this. I still miss vinyl, listening to MP3 is like watching a movie through a screen.

Post 216 of 301

Rip CD's from Collection:

by jamesbrad61 - 1/19/08 12:45 PM In reply to: Advice needed for ripping a huge music CD collection by Lee Koo (ADMIN) Moderator

I use Yahoo Music Juke box,and its free. You can rid an entire album,and it (burns CD's) very fast.that is if you have Windows XP or Vista. Try it you may like this.

Post 217 of 301

system shutdown

by godismighty - 1/19/08 2:03 PM In reply to: Advice needed for ripping a huge music CD collection by Lee Koo (ADMIN) Moderator

If a laptop from system is shutdown can it be reverse (recover)?
What may cause Laptop to be shutdown ?
What will be a procedure to shutdown? I would be grateful for any suggestion. Thanks

Post 218 of 301

You are asking for a lot

by djcobp - 1/19/08 2:14 PM In reply to: Advice needed for ripping a huge music CD collection by Lee Koo (ADMIN) Moderator

I don't think you will find one program that will do all that and yet be able to rip at the best quality. There are several steps that need to be taken. If you want the highest quality, you need to go with 320 cbr AND most importantly use a good front end ripper. I have only one recommendation for that, and that is LAME. Lame is the best for mp3's, if your choice of format is mp3. The only thing, in my opinion better than mp3 would be wav, but then you are looking at even more hard drive space. Mp3 is a very good format. Just make sure you stick to 320 cbr, not vbr, and make sure you use LAME as your front end ripper.
There is one ripper that will do almost all you asked. I don't know if you can still find it. It's called A #1 cd ripper. It has a built in front end ripper using lame. It will look up your cd's in the database, and rename them. It will use lame to rip, then convert to mp3. You can choose the different settings you want. If you want to do it step by step, you would use EAC to extract from your cd to wav, then use a front end ripper with LAME to convert to 320 cbr mp3, then a convertor to look up the names and do the renameing. Good Luck to you. I'd say the most important part of the whole project is use Lame to convert to mp3. If you have a problem with space, my second choice would be using all of the above, but change 320cbr to 320vbr, that will cut your space in half, and you won't lose that much quality.

Post 219 of 301

Lossless the only way to go.

by RBADigital - 1/19/08 3:05 PM In reply to: You are asking for a lot by djcobp

Just to chime in again, lossless is the only way to go, because transcoding to lossy formats is easy, and spending a huge amount of time to have less than lossless quality in the result is the stuff of regret.

AAC Lossless and FLAC are very similar, lossless codecs, both having been involved in the politics of digital audio. Apple gives AAC Lossless away free with their free iTunes solution, and FLAC is free on many download sites.

AAC Lossless is not quite as efficient as FLAC in terms of reducing file size, but we live in an age where 500GB drives are dropping to the $100 price point. Terabyte drives range from $260 to $400, but keep in mind, not all drive manufacturers are making quality drives. Hitachi seems to be building decent drives, but they are not discounted like Western Digital (I have a lot of both flavors, operating 24/7, and so far, no failures.) Remember, the primary wear and tear on a hard drive is done switching on the thing.

Cheap storage means that AAC Lossless or FLAC will suit as a pristine digitized replacement for physical CD’s. You’ll just need maybe 20-30% more HD for AAC. But for iTunes and iPod users, AAC Lossless is a simple no-brainer. It works on all things iTunes/iPod.

After organizing your music, you could then choose the playlist for your MP3 player, and then convert the lossless stuff to MP3 at that time. As others have suggested, who really needs 500 hours of music on a portable player? Unless you intend to implant the MP3 player, a selective playlist to make a 12 hour plane flight a better experience might be just the ticket. I put 24 hours worth on my iPod, almost all lossless, and it only took 5.85 GB, just because I like shuffle mode to have more variety. No matter what, you will eclipse any Clear Channel owned station in a heartbeat in terms of variety.

Post 220 of 301

CD Ripping

by MadMike42 - 1/19/08 3:43 PM In reply to: Advice needed for ripping a huge music CD collection by Lee Koo (ADMIN) Moderator

A big reason for ripping your CD's would be that a CD can get destroyed.
In that case if you have ripped it to MP3 it is also destroyed! MP3 is a lossy format that will degrade the quality of your CD and it will be heard on a good system!
If you rip the CD's to Flac you will have an exact copy of the CD but save some space. Flac is to music what zip and rar is to data files. It does some compression but does not take away anything!!!
If you burn a flac to a CD it will be an replica of the CD!
There are a few VERY good freeware programs for ripping. Alot lot of people swear by EAC personally I use dbPowerAmp which also handles ape, m4a and other lossless formats. It also will connect to FreeDB to tag all the files.
As CD's will go bad (when is not known at the moment) the best way to keep your collection intact for you and tou children is to rip them in flac and then make a copy to a HD that you don't use and store that for safety!! You can use any HD for that! A HD not in use can't go bad but a new HD for that purpose won't set you back many bucks :)

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Ripping CD's

by dflick00 - 1/19/08 4:10 PM In reply to: Advice needed for ripping a huge music CD collection by Lee Koo (ADMIN) Moderator

I don't know how good it is as I don't have too many cd's that I rip tunes from, however I know that Audacity was rated very by PC Magazine; they got an Editor's Choice You may want to try it.

Post 222 of 301

Quality Ripping

by djtommyb - 1/19/08 5:03 PM In reply to: Advice needed for ripping a huge music CD collection by Lee Koo (ADMIN) Moderator

If yr after quality, Exact Audio Copy (http://exactaudiocopy.de/) is the way to go. It uses elaborate error correction, and is now paired with the AccurateRip database, to ensure you get an exact, bit for bit copy of any CD you try to copy.

If there are any errors in yr rip, it will tell you exactly where they are.

If yr going to all the trouble to copy every one of yr CDs, save 'em as WAV files, and compress 'em when you port 'em to yr iPod.

That's my two cents.

Cheers,

Tommy B

Post 223 of 301

software bundled with player?

by 64068 - 1/19/08 5:49 PM In reply to: Advice needed for ripping a huge music CD collection by Lee Koo (ADMIN) Moderator

Perhaps I'm a bit simplistic or naive, but I just used the software that came packaged with my mp3 player (Creative MediaSource). It may not be the best, but it did allow me a certain amount of choice in ripping my music and was sure to be compatible my player. I have >300 CDs.

Post 224 of 301

iTunes

by willzone1 - 1/19/08 6:05 PM In reply to: Advice needed for ripping a huge music CD collection by Lee Koo (ADMIN) Moderator

Uh, what happened to iTunes? It's easy, it'll get track names and artwork, what's wrong with it? It just so simple, I don't know why this is even a forum...

Post 225 of 301

Try Media Monkey

by catorceya - 1/19/08 6:31 PM In reply to: Advice needed for ripping a huge music CD collection by Lee Koo (ADMIN) Moderator

I've been using MM for about 6 months now. It does a great job of cataloging, ripping, converting, burning and playing any file I have thrown at it including iTunes.

You'll have to get a separate mp3 encoder on-line to use the free version of MM. The Gold version ($20) has unlimited mp3 burning capabilities.

As far as bit-rate, everybody says 128 is fine for rock, but I use 192 CBR - keep in mind that hard drives are getting cheaper every day.

If you are ripping any classical or jazz that you want to make sure is in pristine digital format try the FLAC file format. It will give you bigger file sizes, but it is lossless.

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