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by larrym64 - 1/13/08 4:32 PM
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Post 1 of 29

HDTV's and non high def picture

by larrym64 - 1/13/08 4:32 PM

I have gone through 2 HDTV's in recent times because the non high def picture looks worse than my 20 year old tuber tv. Since everything is not high def any suggestions for me as to what I can do differently would be great. The last one I returned on 12/24 was the sony kdl46w3000. I was assuming that it was not the tv because on other sources it was beautiful. Any help with this would be greatly appreciatted as I am ready to give up on HD for a while?

Post 2 of 29

YOU ONLY HAVE UNTIL FEB. 17, 2009 TO WATCH ANALOG...........

by Riverledge - 1/13/08 5:42 PM In reply to: HDTV's and non high def picture by larrym64

SO I GUESS you can go HDTV-less for 13 months. There is little one can do about non-HD content broadcast in HD format. SD usually looks crappy, although some HDTVs do a much better than others in reproducing it.

Ball's in your court.

Best wishes,

Riverledge.

Post 3 of 29

LARRY YOU MUST FEED THE BEAST

by stewart norrie - 1/13/08 6:24 PM In reply to: HDTV's and non high def picture by larrym64

Its like buying a new car and not wanting to put gas in it. to truly enjoy a hi-def set a hi-def satellite or cable system is a must not only tons of hi-def channels but also awsome programming go for it done be so cheap steweee

Post 4 of 29

Stewee is correct

by Dan Filice - 1/13/08 6:35 PM In reply to: LARRY YOU MUST FEED THE BEAST by stewart norrie

Are you just plugging a HDTV into an analog cable? As Stewee suggests, you need a good HD source, like either HD cable or HD satellite. If you don't have either, you need one of the two. Stewee draws a good analogy about having a new car and not wanting to put gas into it, but the analogy can go one step further. Having HD is like having a Ferrari and not wanting to put gas into it. The "gas" of course is your HD source. I would be very interested to know how you had your Sony connected. That is a great TV. I saw someone returning a Sony LCD at Costco this weekend and I wondered why. Was this you?

Dan

Post 5 of 29

Not entirely true...

by wroane - 1/17/08 10:47 AM In reply to: Stewee is correct by Dan Filice

I have a Toshiba 32" LCD, and most of the SD channels are not too bad. I have my set hooked up to the coax line directly with basic service only, and am receiving 8 HD channels without an HD package. It depend on if your provider sends the signals thru or not, and if your set has a good QAM tuner.

Post 6 of 29

HELLLLOOOO...

by grc24 - 1/13/08 7:12 PM In reply to: HDTV's and non high def picture by larrym64

It's a "High-Def" TV. (HDTV) They're made to watch "High-Def."(HD)programming. If all you want to do is watch "Standard-Def." (SD) TV. Don't buy a "High-Def." TV. (HDTV) A High-Def TV doesn't make Standard-Def TV better. Actually, it makes it looks worse, which you have experienced first hand.

Good Luck,

grc

Post 7 of 29

HDTV

by larrym64 - 1/14/08 5:06 PM In reply to: HELLLLOOOO... by grc24

Just to answer some questions. I did have a high def signal first with dish and then cablevision. I used an HDMI cable to connect them. I realize that the set is for High def and not regular but as I said in the original post not everything is high def yet and when the switch comes it will be to digital not high def. No it was'nt me that you saw at costco returning a TV. But any suggestions that anyone is aware of that makes non high def content passable would be appreciatted. I am considering the sony 46 xbr4 and the samsung 71 next. Thanks to all for the input.

Post 8 of 29

You've realized

by dinox64 - 1/14/08 5:35 PM In reply to: HDTV by larrym64

The curse of Hi-Def. Not all the shows you like are broadcasted in it. Which happens to be the majority of programming. Some people see fit to pay a premium for less than premium service and a few extra channels. Well, for me to pay a premium I want premium service. Not just a couple of extras. Who cares if the news is HD? Or some retarded detective,coroner,forensics,biologists,cop all wrapped into one B.S. show? Football is a short season. So,unless you're watching DVDs everytime you sit down,I don't see the value. Then, that is only me. I can wait,until then DVDs are awesome and I challenge any one to a side by side comparison at 2 and 1/2 times the screen size to differentiate displays from my EDTV to HDTV while the movie is playing. Yes playing, because that's how you watch a movie,not in freeze frame.

Post 9 of 29

You can't please everybody.

by grc24 - 1/14/08 8:03 PM In reply to: You've realized by dinox64

I only pay $10.00 for my HD channels. All 40 of them. Not including the locals I pull in w/ an antennae nor the pay-per-view channels that are HD as well. I DO have an HDTV, therefore, I understand that I have to subscribe to HD content and pay an additional $10.00/month to appreciate my HDTV. I knew that going in to buy an HDTV. There isn't much of a point in buying an HDTV if you don't. Unless you have a dedicated theater room used to watch movies only. Then you do want the best, but those people have more than one set in the house that they can watch plain ole' TV on. That's my opinion though. Why do people feel like they should be angry at the HDTV they just bought because TV Land re-runs look like crap??? That is not what they were intended for. DO NOT buy that SONY XBR to watch SD programming. You won't be happy. You've already brought back two others??? Why would this one be better than the other two? PQ may be better, but will you be happy when Three's Company ( That was filmed in the 70's.) still looks like crap??? I doubt it. We'll see you back here again with the same complaint...

grc

Post 10 of 29

that's actually a reasonable point.

by bean99 - 1/14/08 10:10 PM In reply to: You've realized by dinox64

i've found the perfect tv.

no motion artifact.
the colors are perfect.
never had to calibrate it.
the blacks are truly black.
no halo effect.
no pixelation.
no fan noise.
it's a pretty big image.
everything looks clear, and dvd's look great on it.
i can watch every single channel available and every single show available (old seinfelds, mtv, espn, cnn, pbs, you name it) and they look great.
don't care if the kids bump it or hammer on it.
it never causes any problems.
never had to call the company on the phone.
never had to have a tech out to the house.
and the price was right-- got it for free in fact.
it's an old 32 inch toshiba tube tv.
and man it works great.

Post 11 of 29

CRT and HD

by Savik2 - 1/18/08 9:18 PM In reply to: that's actually a reasonable point. by bean99

Apparently there are a few manufacturers making CRT TVs that are HD-compatible - very expensive, but I reckon worth every penny, especially considering the average life-span of a plasma screen (5 years). All the CRT sets I have in my house are at least 10 years old - one is even 25 years old, and still going strong!

Post 12 of 29

Ha!

by SuzyFiero - 1/19/08 11:19 AM In reply to: that's actually a reasonable point. by bean99

That's TOO funny...and how true!

Post 13 of 29

had the same problem..

by rester - 1/19/08 6:45 AM In reply to: You've realized by dinox64

my zenith lcd tv stopped working.circuit city said the power supply was shot and not available any more,so go to the store and pick up a new conpatible model under my extended warranty.a ebayer had 20 listed for around $49.00.but they could only use original factory parts.i tried two different brands ,i'm using dish and air ant.no hdtv,the were both two extreme on there adjustments,to everthing,.after getting through to a samsung level two tech.he knew the problem right away.get a lcd tv,not hdtv,so i went back to the store and got a sharp dtv,that was the only one they had in stock after xmas that was not hdtv,brought it home and plugged it in and bravo i was back in tv heaven.perfect picture on dish and air even air hdtv.to bad the sales staff at the stores were a little more on the ball.lol.

Post 14 of 29

HD Equipment

by kuliddar - 1/14/08 7:30 PM In reply to: HDTV by larrym64

I think what many don't realize is that going HD is a whole different ball game than SD. Getting an HDTV is great but you need a lot more than just the TV to enjoy HD. Cables, HD Set-top box and Blu-ray (or DVD upscaler if you don't want BR) are all things needed to truly enjoy this technology.

Although I don't want to start an LCD vs Plasma debate here it seems to me you should try a plasma instead. I have a panasonic 42px75u and the SD feeds are not that awful. In the end I think it also has to do with who is your service provider. I had "digital cable" before the HD terminal and SD channels are still fed "digitally". Perhaps that makes the difference...I can't say.

Post 15 of 29

my plasma

by woodygg - 1/14/08 7:59 PM In reply to: HDTV by larrym64

looks fine in SD - sure, not quite as good as my old tv, but who cares? i watch as little SD as possible. it's a small price to pay to get the amazing HD picture. it certainly is 'passable' as is...

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