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Camcorders: Poll: Will your next camcorder be a hi-def one?

by Lee Koo (ADMIN) Moderator - 1/11/08 12:33 PM
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Post 16 of 23

I don't need a camcorder yet

by elisasalat - 1/12/08 5:30 AM In reply to: Poll: Will your next camcorder be a hi-def one? by Lee Koo (ADMIN) Moderator

I have had camcorders before and took videos but have very seldom seen them. Perhaps when my kids start their own families we will have family reunions where we can watch them if the devices are still around to do so.... everything changes so much! now we have to save a VCR to be able to watch our kids when they were babies. i cannot watch my wedding videos because i don't have a betamax anylonger... I feel that there are awesome small cameras that offer video capabilities that give you enuf video time(for me). I LIKE THEM SHORT & SWEET... and you can then save them on your computer for later use and access from anywhere to share with whomever.

Post 17 of 23

Buy HD Camcorder?

by GregS13 - 1/12/08 7:56 AM In reply to: Poll: Will your next camcorder be a hi-def one? by Lee Koo (ADMIN) Moderator

My next camcorder will be HD if...decent software is available to edit HD on my Vista Ultimate computer. Also, a huge consideration is what to play it on? Blue Ray, or HDD? When the HD DVD format is decided, and the software is available, then I will buy an HD camcorder.

Post 18 of 23

HD Camcorder

by peterhb17 - 1/12/08 8:46 AM In reply to: Poll: Will your next camcorder be a hi-def one? by Lee Koo (ADMIN) Moderator

Already gone for an HD comcorder - JVC GZ HD7. Still getting the hang of it. Constrained by proprietary format *.tod files. Only editable initially with supplied software from Cyberlink which I didn't find very impressive !!

Although now Ulink video studio (Corel) in its latest release allows editing of native *.tod files and this is a lot better.

Peter Barker

Post 19 of 23

HDV on MiniDV

by NicksNotes - 1/12/08 10:07 AM In reply to: Poll: Will your next camcorder be a hi-def one? by Lee Koo (ADMIN) Moderator

when i step up to high definition camcorder, i'll likely go with one which records on MiniDV. so that my older previous footage shot on standard definition MiniDV format will be able to also be played-back, too.

more importantly, i still prefer tape-based, since the tapes themselves are the camera masters, neat and tidy; no getting into the morass of digital media management/storage/organization. standard def MiniDV already consumes about 12GB of disk space per one hour of video; let alone what the high def formats would consume. which would mean having to offline to some stage backup anyhow. whether that'd be DVD-R or another harddrive.

all in all, it's still easier to keep the camera master (MiniDV) and just ingest to the computer what select footage you want. it's a more straightforward process; than worrying about camera's internal built-in harddrive (and and their "different" codecs) or removable media (which is expensive compared to tape). MiniDV tape can be bought online for under $3.00 a tape.

beyond that HDV format on MiniDV is a less-compressed format, than the "esoteric" other formats written to harddisk or memory cards; which are compressed in more greatly. so, for quality and ease of managing the media, MiniDV tape stock still has my vote.

Post 20 of 23

Perfect.

by boya84 - 1/12/08 4:48 PM In reply to: HDV on MiniDV by NicksNotes

My sentiments, exactly.

Post 21 of 23

Canon HV20

by richardlawler - 1/13/08 6:09 PM In reply to: Poll: Will your next camcorder be a hi-def one? by Lee Koo (ADMIN) Moderator

The Canon HV20 is a great little HDV and miniDV camcorder.

One complaint would be that the microphone isn't so good. It picks up lots of wind noise outdoors. I've got a Rode VideoMic that does much better when I need good audio.

The HV20 has a 24P Cine mode that works great. It's true progressive scan, and it works well in low light. The only problem with the 24P mode is that the editing/capture software I use (Sony Vegas 8 Pro) doesn't recognize the footage as 24P. This is not a big deal since it's fully compatible with 60i. But edits won't be frame-perfect.

One cool thing about HDV is that you can burn 25-50 minute Blu-Ray (using Vegas) or HD DVD (using Ulead VideoStudio 11 Plus) from the HDV footage onto regular and DL DVD-R discs.

Post 22 of 23

I have one, it's got great features and really stinks too.

by TheQmeister - 1/29/08 5:12 PM In reply to: Poll: Will your next camcorder be a hi-def one? by Lee Koo (ADMIN) Moderator

I was given the JVC Everio GZ-HD3 for xmas. It's going back tomorrow (last day to return). I tried. I really tried. But the neato features just could not overcome it's weaknesses.
The hi-def pic was outstanding.. if: you didn't move the camera, it was outdoors, and daylight.
Its still pics are HORRIBLE.
Now I know some of us have a good digital camera for stills. Me too. I have a couple. I prefer the Canon SD600 cause it was all I needed, it was $200, slips EASILY into a pocket and.. this is the most important reason... my wife could use it. I personally think it takes very nice movies. But, there's no zoom (other than the digital - which we all know counts for nothing) And, it's sound gets buffeted by the wind. So... I like to have an actual "camcorder". My current Sony Hi-8 is now 5-6 yrs old. Still runs like a champ but comparatively is bulky.

As for the Everio, I really like the ability to simply plug it in and transfer all my video to the PC. I picked up a 750GB HD for under $200 and it will hold several days worth of video. (60 GBs/7 hours on the camcorder).
I also like the ease of using the joystick on the viewfinder, the availability of the options, the wind "resistant" stereo mics, the 3 CCDs, the "sunshade" lens cover and compactness of it.
However, here are the deterrents.
- All video shot indoors is either green or orange. Yuck.
- The included "light" is useless past 5 feet.
- The stereo microphones are actually omnidirectional. LOL they're BOTH next to each other on TOP of the camera. No actual stereo separation.
- No viewfinder. This is a biggie. I don't want to have to open the 2 1/2" playback window all the time. It wears down the battery and is annoying to others when shooting video of kid's recitals etc.
- 10x zoom. I mean really. Are you kidding me?
Anyway, I'm going to try and find something else. I like the HD format. The videos that came out nice, look *wow* on my 73" HD screen.

Post 23 of 23

What about the new Sanyo?

by nomore801 - 1/30/08 6:11 AM In reply to: I have one, it's got great features and really stinks too. by TheQmeister

HiDef, easy to hold, easier to use than Canon or Sony & takes stills....

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