Buzz Out Loud Lounge: Wassup w/ Natali del Conti's clothes?
Wassup w/ Natali del Conti's clothes?
by scott_wilder - 1/7/08 8:04 PMWatching CES videos and I see a young women in a too tight white T-shirt with suspenders. Is this a CNET product review or the beginning of Victoria's Secret does CES?
Please get some wardrobe control happening.
pfftt....have you seen what high schoolers wear these days?
by shawnlin - 1/7/08 8:08 PM In reply to: Wassup w/ Natali del Conti's clothes? by scott_wilderokay, this probably needs to be in the Speakeasy area.
I have my opinions on what is professional and what isn't, when professional attire is required and when it isn't...I think we all do. I'm a little more conservative in that regard, I was surprised at her attire, but actually, I just moved on after I had a 3 seconds of screen-shock.
Again - I recommend discussion in Speakeasy.
Best,
Shalin
Legend in my own bath tub
by scott_wilder - 1/7/08 8:15 PM In reply to: pfftt....have you seen what high schoolers wear these days? by shawnlinI just like to think that this is probably the best way to speak directly to Tom or Molly.
And what makes you...
by SPIRIdk - 1/8/08 2:43 AM In reply to: Legend in my own bath tub by scott_wilder...think that Tom and Molly have control over Natali's wardrobe? 
Read my mind (LOL)
by acedtect
- 1/8/08 8:19 AM
In reply to: And what makes you... by SPIRIdk
Give Nat a chance folks. Let's not be too superficial here.
Superficial?
by scott_wilder - 1/8/08 11:35 PM In reply to: Read my mind (LOL) by acedtect
My opinion may not be popular; I'll give you that.
But I don't think it's superficial to say that a look of professionalism leads to a perception of professionalism. And having a stable of young, attractive, stylishly dressed and hip talent, regardless of how qualified they are, may lead to the perception of image being more important than substance.
If I tried to wear a T Shirt and suspenders on NBC's nightly news; some junior wardrobe assistant would pull me aside and say "Not a chance you're going on national TV dressed like that."
I think CNET should see itself in the same light because you define what best-in-class tech news and review is all about.
Love CNET, love BOL
old story: sex sells. Geeks are *****.
by Papa Chango - 1/7/08 8:26 PM In reply to: pfftt....have you seen what high schoolers wear these days? by shawnlinI personally know many women in tech; system admnistrators, programmers, engineers (and an ex who is a mainframe analyst and programmer) so my comments are not 'one of those' but let's face facts, the bimbo factor is high in both sports and tech.
Surprise, surprise: Sex sells.
For every Molly Wood in tech, you have 10 younger, perkier and boobier women competing to be heard/seen.
I can also count on one hand how many tech 'chicks' dont annoy me.
And that now doesnt include Belmont who thanks to her skeevy new boss is playing up the visual stimulus to desperate geeks angle. Which is a shame because she knows her stuff.
But come on, using sex to sell to geeks is like shooting fish in a barrel.
I expect her to soon be in a neglige to do a segment about tech in the bedroom.
I have no problems with this though if that is the angle someone wants to pursue (Why hasnt there been a Naked Tech News yet?).
There are tons of things to do, listen and watch online. You dont like it? Move on to the next.
That's the thing...
by scott_wilder - 1/7/08 8:31 PM In reply to: old story: sex sells. Geeks are *****. by Papa Chango"There are tons of things to do, listen and watch online. You dont like it? Move on to the next."
I like the product reviews. I just would rather not have to avert my eyes.
pragmatism...
by shawnlin - 1/7/08 8:45 PM In reply to: That's the thing... by scott_wilderThis Natali is no Veronica, that I can tell right away. Maybe I'm just more "just stick to business" and not interested soo much in the fluffiness of being perky, but that's my preference.
Regarding averting your eyes - yeah, I also would like to be distracted less, but that would probably mean I couldn't open my eyes...pretty much ever. Again, after the screen shock, I recommend simply moving on - works for me 
Best,
Shalin
She really annoyed me too...
by minimalist - 1/7/08 11:47 PM In reply to: pragmatism... by shawnlinI like my tech journalists to be journalists, not perky model types groomed by some marketing department to appeal to the 18-25 year old male demographic.
One of the best things about Cnet is that most of the people seem like real people with a passion for tech. I hope the company never loses sight of that.
A Defense of Natali
by Anjuan - 1/8/08 1:13 PM In reply to: She really annoyed me too... by minimalistI normally just watch these forums, but I do want to respond to and correct the last comment. Natali Del Conte is not just a pretty puppet who is fed tech lines to say. She has plenty of journalism and tech cred having a BA in Mass Communication from California State Univesity, a Masters in Mass Media from USC, and worked as a tech writer for MarketWatch, Variety, The Oakland Tribune, Hispanic Magazine, PC Magazine, and TechCrunch. So, don't let her attractiveness blind you to the fact that she is a smart and experienced technology journalist. A woman can be competent AND beautiful despite stereotypes to the contrary.
Anjuan Simmons
blog.transmyth.com
personal experience; 20-something presence...
by shawnlin - 1/8/08 3:06 PM In reply to: A Defense of Natali by AnjuanThanks for that post. It's good background info to keep in mind that I wasn't aware of before...although I did skim through some bio page on del Conti yesterday...
I FORtunately had an experience where a member of an ambitious undergraduate engineering team I was leading had a very attractive female member. I relished this opportunity to see, first hand, how the stereotype could be shattered. Distracting? A bit, but the work came first - for her too, she worked hard, was creative, and grew more as an engineer with just about every new task.
I see the same potential in Natali del Conti (and Brian Tong), but haven't seen her hit a good professional stride...but I'll bet it's coming. I guess I'm just gettin' old (although I'm only 29) and can't *entirely* relate to some of these 20-somethings (e.g. del Conti just likes to be pretty so often; Tong...is energetic beyond my normal comprehension). I did state in Spring '07 that there needs to be some 20-somethings to pick up the slack and be that "young voice" after Veronica left - so, I look forward to seeing them grow in the profession...but without loosing their uniqueness/flare.
Best,
Shalin
She's an established tech news podcaster...
by Nicholas Buenk - 1/12/08 12:10 AM In reply to: She really annoyed me too... by minimalistAnd a regular guest on dvorak's cranky geeks show.
It's not like they pulled her out of no where. Give her a chance she has actual experience podcasting.
PS
by Nicholas Buenk - 1/12/08 12:27 AM In reply to: She's an established tech news podcaster... by Nicholas Buenkhttp://textra.podshow.com/
Here is where she used to work.
feed://www.podshow.com/feeds/textra.xml
Here, watch a few
wow
by earlysound - 1/8/08 6:34 PM In reply to: old story: sex sells. Geeks are *****. by Papa ChangoI popped into the forums to see the discussion on today's live show, and I saw some Natali smack talking going on, and I feel the need to jump in on the conversation.
Natali is beautiful, of course, and she's also a great presenter. And she has a ton of experience in the tech industry, so anyone saying that she's just a talking head obviously hasn't been paying attention.
As for your comments on myself, please show me one video where I'm playing up ANYTHING. I haven't changed my wardrobe at all since leaving CNET, except maybe to be a little more casual. And to insinuate that Jason (no matter how you feel about him) has absolutely ANY say in what I wear or how I present myself is completely baseless and frankly, extremely insulting.
If you once respected me and now have "taken me off your list" because of some imagined sexing up of my image, then there's nothing I can really do about that. But if you really know me at all through my work, either currently or at CNET, then you wouldn't say such a ridiculous thing.
And jeez, everyone, give Natali a break, she just started! You guys are more respectful than that. I hope.
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