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Community Newsletter: Q&A: What can I do to improve the speed of my Vista machine?

by Lee Koo (ADMIN) Moderator - 1/11/08 3:13 PM
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Speed Up Your Vista Computer

by waytron - 12/17/07 2:14 AM In reply to: What can I do to improve the speed of my Vista machine? by Lee Koo (ADMIN) Moderator

I really sympathize with you and it is not your imagination. Many consumer grade Windows Vista computers actually do perform routine tasks at a slower pace than machines of many years ago. It seems that every time the industry makes advances in hardware speed and performance, the software industry gobbles it up with bloated, inefficient software leading to a net effect of slower overall performance. Software providers keep added features many of us don’t need or want and hardware vendors keep pre-installing more and more junkware that slows everything down. I don’t know when the industry is going to realize that a large majority of users just want to read mail, surf the internet and write the occasional letter and they want to do it fast and without a lot of hassle. Right from the start Windows Vista, with all of its’ fancy graphics, requires a lot more horsepower than XP to just to run. If you add to that all the demo, trial and junk programs that many computer makers preload onto your computer and then top it off with security software that is needed to protect your computer, it is amazing the thing runs at all. Don’t worry, not all is lost and you can definitely tweak your computer to gain some performance. Since we do not know the specifics about your exact computer model as well as your own personal computer needs, I will stick with the more general steps to improve performance.

1. General Maintenance - Even though your computer is only 5 months old, that is plenty of time for a computer to become infested with viruses and Spyware and clogged with temporary files. Make sure your Security software is active and up-to-date. Run full virus and Spyware scans just to make sure your computer is clean. It is a good idea to scan with at least 2 or more Spyware and adware scanners. Also check for dust clogged vents and fans. Run Diskclean or other temporary file cleaning program such as ATF or CCleaner to remove all your temporary junk and history files.

2. Uninstall Junk – The very first thing to do with any computer is to remove or uninstall all the junk and trial software that the manufacturer so kindly decided that you needed installed on your computer. Carefully look through all the programs that are installed and remove any that you do not plan to use. Here a just a few examples of stuff you may not need:

GOOGLE DESKTOP – Don’t confuse Google Desktop with Regular Google. Some computers come with Google Desktop pre-installed or it may have been installed along with some other program. This program, which constantly indexes everything on your computer is wonderful for searching through your computer for stuff, but it can also slow things down. So if you do not have a real need for it, go ahead and uninstall it.

QUICKEN TRIAL – If you don’t plan to use Quicken, you can uninstall this.

MICROSOFT MONEY – Many computers come with trial versions of Microsoft Money.

MUSIC PLAYERS – Decide which music player you want and remove any 2nd or 3rd music player such as Music Match or iTunes.

MICROSOFT WORKS – If you purchased Microsoft Office or some other Office Suite, you probably do not need Works, so you can remove it.

INTERNET SERVICE PROVIDERS – Some computers may come with AOL, Earthlink or NetZero pre-installed so if you don’t have any plans to use any of these services, you should uninstall them.

3. Evaluate Internet Security – Many Security programs such as Norton and McAfee have been known to really hog your computers resources. You might want to consider removing these and installing other less obtrusive software such as Nod32, AVG, PC-Cillin or Avast. Depending on your computer needs, you may not actually need all of the features of some full security package such as Antivirus, Antispyware, Firewall, Phishing Filters, Spam Filters, Popup Blockers, Parental Controls, Password Vaults, Backup, and Tuneup Routines. You may only need Antivirus and Antispyware protection. Many of these programs are known to start misbehaving, so it is sometimes a good exercise just to uninstall and re-install your security software just to make sure it is working correctly. Note: Make sure you keep the original CD and/or installation files and codes so that you will be able to reinstall your security software if needed.

4. Vista Gadgets – The Gadget Bar on the right side of your screen that comes with Windows Vista can be an entertaining extra but is another possible source of slow down. Every Gadget you have installed is just another thing running in the background. Remove any unnecessary gadgets or just shut down the whole bar.

5. Vista Tweaks – If you are still finding that Windows Vista is just not performing the way that you want, you can really dive in and tweak your system by removing services and some of the flashy extras and features that you may not want or care about. Extreme Tech has some great information if you really want to get down to the nitty gritty of tweaking http://www.extremetech.com/article2/0,1697,2110606,00.asp .

If none of this helps and you are really desperate, you might consider removing Vista and installing Windows XP (if drivers are available for your model) or even switching to Linux. Of course, there is always the MAC option.

Dana
Wayland Computer

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The answer is simple.

by benoddo - 12/17/07 6:52 AM In reply to: What can I do to improve the speed of my Vista machine? by Lee Koo (ADMIN) Moderator

Dump Vista and install XP. I wonder if you could get your money back from Microsoft if you are not satisfied with their product. After all, Vista Home edition is a consumer product.

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Money back from Microsoft?

by OttifantSir - 12/17/07 3:12 PM In reply to: The answer is simple. by benoddo

The only case I know of that has gotten his money back for not using Windows went to the store, bought a computer they hadn't started yet, connected it at the store, took pictures of the process, had a store employee with him, hit "I don't accept the EULA", loaded an Ubuntu CD and installed it, had the employee sign a document to this effect, and waited eight months for his money.

If you have been using Windows for even one minute, you will have clicked the "I agree to the EULA"-choice when starting it the first time. You're up a creek without a paddle. You have agreed to use Windows, and denounced any rights for a monetary refund, or refund in any way. You have even signed away the rights to the contents of your computer. Microsoft owns Windows. You just lease it for a one-time payment.

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Answer for Darren

by compufxr - 12/17/07 8:10 AM In reply to: What can I do to improve the speed of my Vista machine? by Lee Koo (ADMIN) Moderator

Turn off all of those "cool" features that really just slow windows down. Turn off Aero, for one and you should see a performance boost. Also you can try using a flash key as additional memory. Just insert a new flash key and windows will prompt you if you want to use it as additional memory. It helps a little.

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Vista!!!!

by boldynut - 12/17/07 1:05 PM In reply to: What can I do to improve the speed of my Vista machine? by Lee Koo (ADMIN) Moderator

Why do people want to be so far ahead with the OS scene. As many people found with XP, that it was full of bugs and needed updating regularly and still is updated. XP will be around for some time and is the most reliable OS at the moment. I would suggest that he reverts to XP and wait a year or so for vista to be ironed out.

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Vista Too Sloe

by warren003 - 12/17/07 1:35 PM In reply to: What can I do to improve the speed of my Vista machine? by Lee Koo (ADMIN) Moderator

The problems with Vista you mentioned are the same reasons, a lot of users have uninstalled Vista and installed Windows XP home edition with service pack 2. It might be a good idea to check with the manfacturer of the computer to see if XP will work properly on the computer.

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don't waste your time

by BigGuns149 - 1/5/08 1:31 AM In reply to: Vista Too Sloe by warren003

A lot of manufacturers attempt to give to a lot of crap if you install any other OS even if it is a Microsoft OS from what the machine came with. Just a word of warning. Furthermore, don't expect them to show you where you can find drivers. Last, but not least, unless you want to go through a long drawn out hsssle you aren't getting a refund on your OS license separate of the computer. Everyone who has ever done it has spent more time than it was worth. Whatever you get probably isn't enough to buy you an XP license anyway. Unless you already have a XP license and know that you can get drivers for the hardware I would say you are going to be spending ~$100 to get a legit copy of XP. People who give this advice ignore the fact that most people don't have a copy of XP handy.

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Mo' betta you get XP

by pineapplefish - 12/18/07 3:06 AM In reply to: What can I do to improve the speed of my Vista machine? by Lee Koo (ADMIN) Moderator

From everything I've heard Vista is SLOW
Most people have been installing XP on their Vista Machine instead.

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It's Easy

by RunningReeder - 12/18/07 12:26 PM In reply to: What can I do to improve the speed of my Vista machine? by Lee Koo (ADMIN) Moderator

The easiest solution that will make you the happiest is to get a Mac. Do you ever hear people with Macs with these complaints? And don't say, "I have always used a PC and am unfamiliar with Macs," because they are ridiculously easy to learn. If you know how to use a computer, you'll know how to use a Mac. I've gone Mac and I'll NEVER go back.

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OS X isn't as great as the hype

by archer75 - 1/4/08 8:48 PM In reply to: It's Easy by RunningReeder

I have a Mac right here. I could go on and on and all the stupid little crap I have to deal with to get the same job done in Windows.
Just a bunch of little irritations in Leopard that drive me nuts. And while overall I like it, it's not better or worse than Vista, just different.

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different?

by puma - 1/4/08 9:51 PM In reply to: OS X isn't as great as the hype by archer75

OS X is much different, if you define different as better. OS X is mature and Unix based while Vista, uh, well the same garbage kernel that is typical of any Microsoft OS.

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Wait a second, the Windows NT kernel is not garbage

by christian_dunn - 1/10/08 12:53 PM In reply to: different? by puma

In my humble opinion, the Windows NT kernel easily rivals the Linux kernel for its stability. The stability of XP is based on the Windows NT kernel. I have also been using Vista for the past 6 months or so, and while it is a bit slow on my laptop computer, that is the way it is for a new technology running on a not-so-new technology. As far as I remember, Vista has not crashed once on my computer, and in fact it seems far more stable than XP when it comes to programs not freezing up and things like that.

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Wait a second, the Windows NT kernel is not garbage

by DickM - 1/14/08 10:44 AM In reply to: Wait a second, the Windows NT kernel is not garbage by christian_dunn

I agree with you bud. These die hard MAC people drive me nuts with the mac is better nonsense they are plagued with same like problems as all us. I buy what you want or what. Yes Vista maybe slow so what it’s like any new OS's it takes time.. Leopard got its fair share of issues too don't let these MAC folks tell other wise.......

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take your time

by puma - 5/9/08 7:07 AM In reply to: Wait a second, the Windows NT kernel is not garbage by DickM

new OS's take time, but when it comes to windows, it takes a very loooong time ...and and Macs do not have the same issues as windows. in fact windows tries to emulate the look and feel of the Mac but windows comes up short in speed, performance, stability, ease of use, security, etc...

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...at least until Windows 7 comes out

by santuccie - 5/9/08 11:40 PM In reply to: take your time by puma

Windows Vista maybe, but not XP. Two things that slow down most Windows PCs are antivirus and antispyware (and other options such as IDS), which other operating systems do not commonly use. Since antimalware has become so commonplace on PCs, Mac users assume it's Windows itself that's so slow. But all it really takes to secure Windows is to disable write-access to system32. Whether launched locally or remotely, malware run right into a brick wall when they try to access the API in a locked kernel, which is the very cornerstone of the non-Microsoft invincibility myth.

Eliminate antimalware, and Windows XP outruns OS-X hands-down. Windows users don't need Rosetta or Parallels to do whatever they want, and this makes for a clear advantage; it should go without saying that running one OS is better than running two simultaneously, or one with an emulator. Also, when there is no antivirus that interferes with every running process to check its code, the non-Microsoft stability myth crumbles like coffee cake; Windows really is more stable. When all's said and done, why pay $999 or more for a machine that deviates from various de facto standards online and offline, when I can pay $600 for a machine that runs even faster after just a few simple steps?

MS made a mistake with Vista; that's a given. Secure or not, it's just too fat. I am not so partial to Windows that I'm going to sit here and tell you it's perfectly reasonable that you should know how to disable a bunch of services just to get your new system to run at a reasonable speed, but I will say there's no reason to migrate as long as XP is still available. And when Windows 7 hits the market with its MinWin kernel, there will be less reason still. Let's not forget why the PC leapfrogged the Mac in the first place...upgradability. That, and the fact that Apple charges more for less. And to fork out the big bucks for a Mac, then a couple hundred more for a copy of Windows when you realize you need that extra functionality...gimme a break!

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