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The News.com Lounge: Lessons learned from Kim tragedy

by Dango517 - 12/7/07 2:07 AM
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Lessons learned from Kim tragedy

by Dango517 - 12/7/07 2:07 AM

http://www.news.com/Lessons-learned-from-Kim-tragedy/2100-1028_3-6221778.html?tag=newsmap

I was not with Cnet when this happened. I only learned of it today after seeing the banner at the top of the site. I read through several of the posts and a wikipedia article concerning the incident.

What stood to me was map reading. Thou this seems like basic knowledge something everyone should know, many don't. I know of people whom have no capacity to scene there cardinal directions....North , South, East and West. Without this nearly intuitive knowledge a map is of little use. Do you know which way is North? Knowing this I'd like to provide these links and some basic survival information.

North

http://wildwoodsurvival.com/survival/navigation/rbsolarnav/index.html

Maps

http://www.centremaps.co.uk/files/mapreadingmadeeasypeasy1_jpg.pdf

Survival skills

http://www.bcadventure.com/adventure/wilderness/survival/basic.htm

Fire from Ice

http://wildwoodsurvival.com/survival/fire/ice/rb/rbfirefromice2.html

Other fire making techniques

http://wildwoodsurvival.com/survival/fire/index.html


Needless to say there are many more sources of information on this subject. In no way am I an expert on this subject. My intent here is to get you thinking. Do me favor and read these through. Do some research on your own and pass the information on.

My sympathises to Mrs Kim and her family.

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Irrelevant

by qednw - 12/17/07 6:24 PM In reply to: Lessons learned from Kim tragedy by Dango517

Your suggestions are well-intentioned but irrelevant. The Kims, and people like them, don't prepare for anything. They rely on their four-wheel drive and their overconfidence in modern life in general.

Look, those people left San Francisco and spent Thanksgiving in Seattle in 2006. This was during the wettest month in Pacific Northwest history. Everyone was talking about it at the time. There had been floods in Seattle, and the weekend they left there was a major storm, with snow, predicted for the region.

They ignored all of that. They stopped at a chamber of commerce tourist center for maps. They asked for directions to the coast and were told not to take the back roads. They ignored the advice.

The map they got had not one but two warnings about winter weather. One a general warning, and the other a red-box warning pointing toward the road they used. Along the way, they passed not one or two, but FOUR large yellow road signs warning of snow. Which, at some point along their journey, was falling outside of their windows.

Did they turn back? Nope. Oh, and before they got to where they were stranded, they didn't even gas up the car when they stopped at a gas station for directions. They didn't have enough food or water, and no one had winter clothes in the car.

And you're advising people like this of survival websites? No, no, no, no, no. What urban yuppies need to know is something far more basic: If you're out there on the road during bad weather, keep your head in the game. Use your common sense. Pay attention to road signs and directions. Don't let a hotel reservation rule your life.

For the complete story about the Kim tragedy, see http://www.kimtragedy.info

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I've heard it said "you can lead a horse to water.........."

by Dango517 - 12/17/07 6:38 PM In reply to: Irrelevant by qednw

It was very relevant to me. I think I will always remember the fire from ice trick. I have asked my family to read this post. I can't help Mr Kim but someone might read this. Did you? With out heat and electricity we could all be in this situation. Remember Katrina.

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Relevant: To You, But Not to the Kim Tragedy

by qednw - 12/17/07 7:37 PM In reply to: I've heard it said "you can lead a horse to water.........." by Dango517

I don't disagree with any of your ideas or anything on those sites, but they're tangential at best to what befell the Kims. Their errors were completely different than anything those websites address.

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You can believe as you like.

by Dango517 - 12/17/07 8:21 PM In reply to: Relevant: To You, But Not to the Kim Tragedy by qednw

It takes at least two people to have a "tug of war". I'm letting go of the rope. No contest, No battle, no nothing. I'm done here.

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