PC utilities: need to track my teen daughters.
WELL SAID SIR!!!!!
by Grimbles - 12/15/07 1:31 PM In reply to: Wow by SEGMATGood on you Matt....couldn't agree more with your erudite comments. We have recently had our 15 year old grand daughter living with us (for 12 months) and I was both frustrated and amazed by the flippant attitude of many of her 'friends' parents...an attitude that I see repeated here. Parenting is a huge responsibility, one that includes keeping children safe from harm and clear of danger, how can that be achieved without monitoring their activities. Invasion of privacy???? What a load of rubbish....it is NOT a trust issue, if the kids don't want their parents to know what they are doing then chances are they are doing something of which their parents wouldn't approve...or worse, something that could be dangerous.
Do any of these simpletons ask their children where they are going when they ask to go out on Saturday night or give them a time to be home?.....That's monitoring their activities, isn't it? Why should it be any different for computer usage.....I wonder if any of them realise just how many of our young people fall victim to IM predators, for example.
BTW, I have raised four children and currently have 12 grand children....would I monitor my children's computer activities in this era?.....YOU BET I WOULD!
Cheers.......JIMBO
You are a sad individual.... but clearly not alone.
by pj-mckay - 12/15/07 5:37 PM In reply to: Wow by SEGMATUnderstand one thing please: Prying has nothing to do with protection. There is perfectly good nanny protection software to be had, and I trust my kids enough to let them roam within the parameters set out by that.
They know not to use ANY chat rooms AND ask me before they dish out email addresses. BT kindly only lets them get mail from folk I add into their address book, and they use MS Outlook via the BT pop3 mailserver. Simple parameters to let them roam safely without me snooping!
Anyone who snoops to the level mentioned in this thread isn't doing anything to protect anyone. It's totally obscene to track private messages regardless of who you are, and who they are. If you need to do this YOU have a problem as far as I'm concerned! That's my honest oppinion and nothing in this thread will change that.
Snooping to this level says more about you; your relationship with your family; and is just not conjusive to a warm trusting relationship. No point in talking cos they'd already know what you were about to say.
ps. We all have private lifes (except you apparently). What I do, my wife does, and my kids do is entirely our own business. I don't want to know every discussion they've had. Why should I ? Why would your parents need to know every chat, mail, discussion, or site hits?
What a crock!!!!!
by Grimbles - 12/15/07 8:00 PM In reply to: You are a sad individual.... but clearly not alone. by pj-mckayGeez PJ.....You are the sad individual....people like you make my blood boil. It's not entirely down to whether or not you trust your OWN kids....there is tremendous peer pressure out there, not to mention the many devious individuals who prey on the innocents. It's all very good if you can trust your children to the level you espouse, but not everyone is as fortunate as you claim to be AND maybe, just maybe your naivety is putting your own children at risk.
Don't be so closed minded....there are real dangers involved and I speak from personal experience.
JIMBO
just one 'small' point here
by jonah jones
- 12/15/07 8:22 PM
In reply to: You are a sad individual.... but clearly not alone. by pj-mckay
#What my kids do is entirely our own business. I don't want to know every discussion they've had. Why should I ?#
you may trust your kids when they go online, but do you also trust the 40 yr old pervert who is coming on as a 'sweet' 15 yr old??
jonah
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Can you guys read..... read first, understand, then reply.
by pj-mckay - 12/16/07 9:34 AM In reply to: just one 'small' point here by jonah jones
Who mentioned unrestricted access? I didn't ever suggest that! I clearly said they DO NOT visit chat rooms OR RECEIVE mail from addresses I don't personally add to their mail subfolders. They have enough sense to know not to use a hotmail address of there own; they read stories of kids being abused and murdered and know there's a risk. Maybe my kids have more sense than some of you. Definitely sounds like it.
They know there are weirdos and sad folk out there who pretend to be something else. I'm pretty happy knowing they're bufferred from all that.
Most of you guys seriously need to evaluate yourselves. I'll say this one more time; I have no interest in knowing everything my kids say OR to whom. In my eyes that would make me a control freak, or pervert.
Snoooping & prying is not protection. It's a sign you're not happy in yourself!
Anyway this has clearly run it's life. Nothing but trivial control freaks adding any input. I'm surprised nobody sugested a web cam of their room and some GPS gadget to track their every movement. I'll bow out as there appear few sane folk involved in this discussion.
Regards the original question. Educate your kids and protect them as best you can. Personally I wouldn't go as far as you're asking but it's a personal choice and you alone know what your kids are up against. Good luck!
Hmm
by luckx - 12/15/07 1:48 PM In reply to: need to track my teen daughters. by lawsonbunch72010I know that as a teen I'm a biased source here, but biased or not, I think that my input could be appreciated [almost]
I'd rather my parents not know all of the stuff I do on the computer, but mostly because if I get in another fight with a friend, I rather they not know every detail
Maybe if they're doing sketchy stuff on the computer then you need to put the computer in a more public place, such as the kitchen or the living room, then they might be a little less apt to doing some of the more objectionable stuff there is out there. One of my friends had this happen to her, and she didn't really appreciate it.
I'm just thinking that may be more the solution, because I know that I wouldn't trust my ma and dad if they put stuff like that on the computer.
hmm-hmm
by Bruski - 12/15/07 2:08 PM In reply to: Hmm by luckxYes, we appreciate all constructive input!
However, in my particular case, the kids computer was in the living room. Still, after telling them and installing this software, we came upon a screen shot of my daughters boyfriend... who had a web cam.... (ewww)...do I need to elaborate further? Was a rather interesting conversation I had with his mother after seeing that.
Trust is a two way street, and if there are parents out there who can trust their teens, great for them. But not all teens are deserving of complete and absolute trust, and like it or not, the internet can be a dangerous place, especially for teens that "know it all". As parents, we have to do what we can to protect them from themselves. My daughter would never have admitted to doing that. Only by showing her "the evidence" could we directly address it, and she could not deny the truth of the situation. It's sad, and it actually sucks to know that your kids will lie to your face about things that are important to us, but you still have to deal with it, and not (like another poster said) bury your head in the sand.
I do agree to keep an eye on the one under my roof
by alfredito - 12/16/07 5:09 AM In reply to: hmm-hmm by Bruskifor those who desagree to have some appz in the pc to track the kids are deadly wrong.
if you are a responsable parent you need to know what are your kids surfing behavior .especially girls under age.after 18 .I wouldn't do it ,but as a parent I would ensure they know everything about the sexual life so they will not fall or at least not to hard .
the curiosity kill the cat and teneger girls get pregnant becuase their inmaturity sexual knoledge
remember that boys will need more freedom ,especially with their sexual life.
this happened in my mother land.
the boy used to tell his father all his moves ,so he had a girlfriend
who wanted to snick out at night time and make love with him.and hee told his father everything and the end was ,his father took off before him and sexually abused the girl.
my niece girlfriend came for sleepover to her house on friday night .
her mom was to come to pick her up on saturday at 9 am.very irresponsable Canadian mother who showed up next monday still drunk .sleepovers ended that day
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