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by C.M.Cubbon - 11/28/07 12:51 PM
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Canon DC40 Camcorder Editing Problems.

by C.M.Cubbon - 11/28/07 12:51 PM

Has anyone found a way to edit a disc direct by inserting it into
a computer with out having to conect camera to computer with wires.
I have found the software supplied with the DC40 is pretty well useless.I have tried COREL Ulead Video Studio 11Plus which will play
the disc but will not edit it.Can any one help ?
cmc.

Post 2 of 17

You won't be able to edit what's on the disc.

by boya84 - 11/28/07 1:18 PM In reply to: Canon DC40 Camcorder Editing Problems. by C.M.Cubbon

But if you use a DVD ripper it will be in a format your computer can deal with.

I use HandBrake.

Use the miniDVD only in a drawer-loading optical drive. Never put one in a slot loading drive.

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Canon DC40 Editing Problems

by C.M.Cubbon - 12/1/07 12:17 PM In reply to: You won't be able to edit what's on the disc. by boya84

Thanks very much for your answer I will look at ripper plan.
CMC

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Why not use wires?

by dressner - 11/29/07 7:52 PM In reply to: Canon DC40 Camcorder Editing Problems. by C.M.Cubbon

Can you please explain why you don't want to use wires? It will make your life a whole lot easier if you just use firwire and Ulead 11 to capture the video.

As far as the disc goes, try looking under the "capture" tab for something like "capture from disk/DVD". I use Ulead 10+ but am not familiar with 11.

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The Canon DC40 is a MiniDVD

by boya84 - 11/29/07 8:54 PM In reply to: Why not use wires? by dressner

camcorder. It does not have a Firewire port.

According to the manual, it has a USB port. Generally, the USB port allows transfer of stills from the memory card - ONLY.

http://www.usa.canon.com/consumer/controller?act=ModelInfoAct&tabact=SupportDetailTabAct&fcategoryid=261&modelid=12927#DownloadDetailAct

I presume the instructions on page 105 did not work or the software is not available. Since there have been so many posts about video transfer problems via USB, I just skip that and go to the "use a DVD ripper".

I wish the manufacturers would just recall all the DVD based camcorders and make them go away.

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Canon DC40 problems

by C.M.Cubbon - 12/1/07 12:27 PM In reply to: The Canon DC40 is a MiniDVD by boya84

Thank to everyone for your trouble I have food for thought now.
CMC.

Post 7 of 17

I agree.'I just skip that and go to the "use a DVD ripper".'

by R. Proffitt Moderator - 11/30/07 7:24 AM In reply to: Why not use wires? by dressner

There are many video editors that will accept the media as source material so that's the answer as well as ripping.

Bob

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Canon DC40 Problems

by C.M.Cubbon - 12/1/07 12:22 PM In reply to: Why not use wires? by dressner

Thanks for your trouble. It just seems simpler without wires.
CMC.

Post 9 of 17

Actually, wires are simpler.

by boya84 - 12/1/07 1:02 PM In reply to: Canon DC40 Problems by C.M.Cubbon

The DVD based camcorders not only make it complex, but the video quality is very poor.

If you want to edit video you capture, use hard drive based or miniDV tape based camcorders. If you don't want to ever edit the video, then stick with DVD-based camcorders.

Keep in mind that "editing" does not always mean "cuts, fades, wipes, titles, credits, sound design"... in this environment, "editing" means "transfer to a computer and using short clip for something other than just playing back from the original place the clip was originally stored..."

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Canon DC40 Editing Problems

by C.M.Cubbon - 12/2/07 12:00 PM In reply to: Actually, wires are simpler. by boya84

Thanks for replying I am now getting things sorted with the help
every one has given.C.M.C.

Post 11 of 17

get a grip people...know your facts before you post to help

by CHETLY - 12/5/07 8:21 AM In reply to: Canon DC40 Editing Problems by C.M.Cubbon

DC40 owners, you can edit movies on DVD-r and -rw used in the DC40 using most video editing software. I have a DC40 and my video quality is excellent...the CCD sensor in the DC40 is comparable to the HD units now for sale...with the DC40's 4 megapixel sensor beating out the 2 megapixel HD sensors...albeit not in 1080i format but a nice video none the less. I use Adobe Premier Elements and am able to edit all of my videos and make them into rather nice DVD's with animated menus and effects. To those who are down about your purchase...do the research and don't listen to the people saying you cannot perform these tasks....they obvioudly know nothing about this product as some were advising you to use firewire...which you know the DC 40 does not have.

NOTE: Use the Video format when initializing your discs, not the VR mode...the only functionality you may lose by not using the VR mode is editing on the camera...you can do this on your editing program. YES, the software bundled with the camera sucks...but it does work. My method is this: I finalize my disc, and then I pop the DVD into my PC's DVD-ROM drive, and open the files in the software....you can do it via the wires, but why...just pop in the disc. Make sure your PC is upgraded and runnign smooth, video editing software boggs down even the most recent gaming monster PC's....

Do your research, Google DC40 sites and read up...thats what I did. In CNET's initial review of the DC40 when it came out, the reviewer even advised the readers that he used Adobe editing software with no problems, just like I have, and yet people bashed the CNEt reviewer about how this was not possible. Hope this helps you out a little...

Post 12 of 17

There are some things wrong with your theory...

by whizkid454 - 12/5/07 2:12 PM In reply to: get a grip people...know your facts before you post to help by CHETLY

1)"I have a DC40 and my video quality is excellent"

Your statement is pretty subjective. It might look great when it isn't compared to other higher quality video (HDD or MiniDV).

2)".the CCD sensor in the DC40 is comparable to the HD units now for sale...with the DC40's 4 megapixel sensor beating out the 2 megapixel HD sensors"

Comparing standard definition to high definition is like comparing apples to oranges. Because the CCD has a MP count higher than HD video does not mean the video will be better, or even good for that matter. There are MANY more variables in the equation than just MP count. SDTV has a resolution of 640x480 whereas HDTV can have up to 1920x1080. I see a big difference. A SD camcorder could have a 200 MP sensor, yet it will still output 640x480 video.

3)"don't listen to the people saying you cannot perform these tasks"

No one is saying it is "impossible" to edit the video. We are just trying to say it is more difficult than the other media available to them.

I agree that if you have the right factors going for you, it is fairly simple to edit the video. Issues arise however when either they don't have correct software or their computer isn't configured properly. The only issue I have is that the quality won't be there when your finished with your manipulations.

Post 13 of 17

Good points

by CHETLY - 12/5/07 3:19 PM In reply to: There are some things wrong with your theory... by whizkid454

I agree completely....just wanted to lift the spirits of the DC40 owner who was feeling his camera was not up to the challenge....

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dc40 video transfer nightmare

by awssee - 12/12/07 3:49 AM In reply to: Good points by CHETLY

i have successfully downloaded video from dc40 via cable using the supplied roxio mydvd, however it took maybe 4 plus attempts. unsucessful attempts gave me stupid messages after some 30 min of going through the open disc function. that was 4 months ago. now i cannot get it to work at all. i tried loading the mini dvd in my computer using windows xp and am getting nowhere on that one. don't want to have to waste money on buying software. if canon cannot get this feature to work then maybe i have some legal recourse in the small claims tribunal here in australia. any step by step suggestions appreciated (aside from trashing this expensive product & upgrading to a new harddisk video)

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As above...

by R. Proffitt Moderator - 12/12/07 5:44 AM In reply to: dc40 video transfer nightmare by awssee

Try ripping the DVD.

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