PC hardware: 64 bit vista and lots of memory
64 bit vista and lots of memory
by jkrause06 - 12/3/07 10:31 AMI use adobe cs2 alot. I have a core 2 @ 2.66 and 3 gigs of ram on an EVGA 680i on vista 32 bit. I want to upgrage vista to 64 bit ultimate and bring the total memory up to 8 gigs. The question is, if i wait for quad core penryns to be available at a reasonable price (hopefully january?) and get a nice x38 mainboard will using ddr2 800 slow me down much? Should i break the bank and get 1066?
thanks for the help.
Be sure you are not burning your dollars.
by R. Proffitt
- 12/3/07 10:35 AM
In reply to: 64 bit vista and lots of memory by jkrause06
Most applications have memory limits of about 2GB unless they are 64-bit specific. Microsoft wrote about the /3G switch and in that article noted a special compiler switch.
To wit, if you are going out there be sure the apps will go with you.
Bob
cs2
by jkrause06 - 12/3/07 10:40 AM In reply to: Be sure you are not burning your dollars. by R. Proffitt
from what i've head photoshop can use 3.5 gigs and whatever is left after that it uses as a page file. Also i like to leave in design and other apps open while i work. So having 8 gigs would be nice. everything would always have as much ram as it wanted.
Sorry that's not true.
by R. Proffitt - 12/3/07 10:46 AM
In reply to: cs2 by jkrause06
As is, the limit is 3.0G (according the Microsoft's docs.)
But I'm not going to argue with you but note that another has done this and they were PISSED at the results. They ended up with a 64 bit Windows which was a royal pain to find all the drivers, they choice of antivirus, firewalls were not available in 64 bit and it was slower than they former Core 2 Duo with 2GB RAM. So thousands later it was slower (in CS2.) Other things were slamming (a good thing) such as video work.
Just trying to help you avoid a repeat.
Bob
Oh.....
by jkrause06 - 12/3/07 10:55 AM In reply to: Sorry that's not true. by R. Proffitt
guess i will have to think about this alot more.
Thanks Bob.
No problem.
by jb16ostos - 12/5/07 2:00 AM In reply to: Oh..... by jkrause06I was livid when I found out that my Microsoft One-Care was incompatible with Vista 64-bit. Frankly, I think you'd be alright with no virus protection at all... oddly enough, 64-bit Vista is kind of virus free. 32-bit viruses can't infect 64-bit systems. But anyhow, get one of the compatible AV software and don't let that deter you.
Note that G-Skill has an incredible dual on DD2-1000 RAM, just $20 more per each 4GB than the 800 stuff. If I read you right, you want to get 8GB of RAM to last you to 2009... very good idea, I may borrow it. $250.00 for 8GB of great RAM is an outrageously good deal, there's just no other way to look at it.
You are right, at the very worst, each application will use up 2GB of RAM for themselves, but when you combine a bunch of 32-bit appls overall you can totally make full use of the 8GB.
I honestly don't see why go Vista and not go 64-bit. Drivers haven't been a big deal for me at all, and I seriously doubt that your new motherboard would have any problems. Vista 64-bit isn't exactly an underground movement... hardware vendors are fully aware that they need to provide support for it.
Your mileage may vary, but I think it's a great idea to buy 8GB and Vista 64-bit. I'm surprised that this isn't a more widely discussed scenario. I really wonder what the effect would be.
It's not a really pricey adventure. I wonder if it would go a long way to "fix Vista" to have that much memory.
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