Cell phones: Poll: Should cell phones be allowed on planes?
- 9/5/07 3:45 PM
Hell no!
by migafre - 11/22/07 11:52 PM In reply to: Poll: Should cell phones be allowed on planes? by Lee Koo (ADMIN)
Look if you want to communicate, internet access with IM and emails is good enough.
Maybe with controls
by randysvh - 11/23/07 12:02 AM In reply to: Poll: Should cell phones be allowed on planes? by Lee Koo (ADMIN)
The problem is if it is allowed, it can become annoying and long ride worse. i understand that they serve a very important purpose, but if the passenger next to you is talking while you are trying to read or sleep it can be a real problem and frustrating. it may be good that they are not allowed and do you really need to talk while on the plane that cannot wait until you get off?
randy
Lack of accountability
by Sarahcatt - 11/23/07 2:16 AM In reply to: Maybe with controls by randysvhIn reply to:
"...do you really need to talk while on the plane that cannot wait until you get off?..."
Probably not, but no one really needs to eat junk food, either, but they should have the right. If they barf on me, then that's a problem. I have no problem if the airline wants to ban cell phones because they are a disturbance to passengers. It's their plan and their business. The problem is the lie about cell phone interference with avionics is an FAA regulation and it's bogus.
the excuse
by randysvh - 11/23/07 3:13 AM In reply to: Lack of accountability by Sarahcattthe excuse that they use when announcing why they must turn off the cell phones is totally invalid as there is no FAA regulation, it is an airline policy used across the board for all airlines that i am aware of. personally i have left mine on without ever it effecting any aircraft and that include my pager too.
randy
Better than the government, there's Mythbusters!
by Sarahcatt - 11/23/07 9:29 AM In reply to: the excuse by randysvhThe TV program "Mythbusters" actually conducted a controlled experiment on the effect of various types of cellular phones on aircraft avionics. The result was that there was no detectable effect. The fact of 'fly by wire' is valid, however, the avionics are both in more jeopardy from other systems on the aircraft and each other than are they sensitive to cell phone interference. Part of it is the frequency ranges of the phones vs. the operating frequencies of the avionics. The other is the shielded transmission media of the avionics (some are now in optical fiber which is all but immune to Radio Frequency or RF interference). Put some of the money that is used to make and enforce regulations that frighten the public into qualified resources. Then let those who are competent make the determinations as to what does and does not constitute a problem.
The remaining problem is that the airline should regulate the social interference on their aircraft just like restaurants should not allow patrons (and their children) to run amok in their establishments. I just hate to see references to bad science used by the airlines, or anyone, as an excuse to avoid accountability for their places of business.
Under strict rules, cell phones should be permitted on plane
by Airvelt - 11/23/07 4:19 AM In reply to: Poll: Should cell phones be allowed on planes? by Lee Koo (ADMIN)
As an airline employee i've met a lot of people who wanted to use their cell phones on board of a plane. There is no direct link between flightsafety and the use of cell phones on board other then the moments that the cockpitcrew is in contact with either air traffic control or during departure and arrival. Use of phones during those times should be prohibited, but during cruise, no problem. Further more, there should be a sort of protocol, like no loud ringtones or loud conversations. If people respect their surroundings, than there should be no objection.
No! Please! No!
by chrisp666 - 11/23/07 5:23 AM In reply to: Poll: Should cell phones be allowed on planes? by Lee Koo (ADMIN)
Here in Europe we get inundated with mindless 'I'm on the train' morons, there are so few places we can get away from these selfish individuals, let the plane be one of them.
YES CELLPHONES SHOULD BE ALLOW ON ALL PLANES
by God2.K - 11/23/07 5:50 AM In reply to: Poll: Should cell phones be allowed on planes? by Lee Koo (ADMIN)
Why do is this, as recent history shows, there are times of emergency like 911, when it is a must to get information to your love ones, the police, the government.
If the people in the planes that hit the world trade center would been allow to use their phones we might off responded better to what happen back in 911.....
Absolutely not
by bilcas - 11/23/07 6:14 AM In reply to: Poll: Should cell phones be allowed on planes? by Lee Koo (ADMIN)
Unfortunately, we cannot expect all folks to act responsibly regarding cell phone use. If use with certain restrictions is permitted, every 3rd user would forget the restrictions and be shouting away, oblivious to others. Imagine the confrontations that surely would ensue. The only solution is the current solution: no cellphone use until the wheels touch down.
Cell phone use on planes
by Michael Tobin - 11/23/07 6:56 AM In reply to: Poll: Should cell phones be allowed on planes? by Lee Koo (ADMIN)
I'm not certain. First,I would like to hear the logic from a security standpoint. Homeland Security should a lot of say-so over this situation. If they have no problem, then my only two concerns are, #1. How will the carriers handle the person who suddenly goes deaf when on a cell phone and I am forced to listen to half a conversation six rows away the WHOLE flight. #2. I really don't want to sit next to someone who converses the whole trip with the ground. I like to read and find this most distracting. Set aside a cell-phone use location other than next to me.
ban them
by alice_b0wie - 11/23/07 7:37 AM In reply to: Poll: Should cell phones be allowed on planes? by Lee Koo (ADMIN)
cell phones should be banned from a lot of places. restraunts, stores, cars, etc. i thought smokers were a bunch of inconciderate a-holes until the cell phone came out
Should cellphones be banned
by Michael Tobin - 11/25/07 8:06 AM In reply to: ban them by alice_b0wieLet see if I have this correct, ban cellphones everywhere. Ban cigarettes everywhere. Cells have been around, oh about 20 years, and cigarettes about 150 years. But selfish, self absorbed complainers have been around forever. Anything or anybody who offends their very thin skinned tiny little narcissistic world should be banned. I'll bet you are the life of the party.
Towers can NOT handle it.
by RRLeach - 11/23/07 11:15 AM In reply to: Poll: Should cell phones be allowed on planes? by Lee Koo (ADMIN)
Each time a cell phone is used in flight more then the allowed 6 cell towers recive the signal, this causes problems in the cell system.
It can cause bad billing or hang on end problems where one tower failes to drop the call.
It causes the security tracking of inturnal GPS to fail.
The user may never know he or she is causing problems but the computers know.
The cell system as its dezined in the US is not setup for air, it can support it in a limited nature but not in a full out free for all.
This does not take into account the clames it causes problems on the plane as so of these clames are not true and some are over stated.
The real reason to not allow cell usage in planes is the cell provider, at this time.
Sincerely
KPS communications
How high is high enough to 'fool' the towers of Verizon?
by Sarahcatt - 11/23/07 1:22 PM In reply to: Towers can NOT handle it. by RRLeachIn response to:
"...The cell system as its (sic) dezined (sic) in the US is not setup for air, it can support it in a limited nature but not in a full out free for all.
This does not take into account the clames (sic) it causes problems on the plane as so of these clames (sic) are not true and some are over stated.
The real reason to not allow cell usage in planes is the cell provider, at this time..."
So, I'm assuming that it's the height of the aircraft above the earth that causes multiple lines of sight for phone-to-tower transmission, right? If that's true, then what about people who live at higher altitudes? At what terrestrial height does the cell phone tower system become compromised? I have been Aspen (elevation 7822 ft/2384 m) and I've used my cell phone. Did that cause cell phone providers a problem? If this is such a problem with the providers, why is the only topic in Verizon's and Nextel's cell phone user manuals about cell phone usage on aircraft a statement that "FCC regulations require cell phones to be turned off in commercial aircraft."
There are pages and pages of safety and other usage cautions, but the only 'interference' with electronics in transportation refers to "Use of a cell phone in a motor vehicle with 'improperly installed electrical equipment' (referring to equipment that is part of the motor vehicle, not the cell phone) could cause interference with that electrical equipment..."
Cell phones on planes
by alaskareed - 11/23/07 1:05 PM In reply to: Poll: Should cell phones be allowed on planes? by Lee Koo (ADMIN)
I do a lot of flying (a million miler on one airline and over 500,000 on others) I like being able to talk up to the door closing and at touch down but I hear to many people being loud on cells, just look at where you eat or the movies, etc. I don't want to hear people being on the phone for the whole flight and not being able to leave or move.
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