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Community weekly poll: Will you be installing Windows Vista?
- 1/30/07 4:24 PM
Not gonna do it!
by djFLWB - 11/22/07 3:46 AM In reply to: Will you be installing Windows Vista? by Marc Bennett
1st Every MS customer is a beta tester. That's a given. The downside of an operating system like MS is that they can't possibly test for every conceivable hardware configuration so you provide them with testing feedback. In other words, never buy an MS product in the first two years of release.
2nd Anyone one remember Millennnium and Media editions? Kinda came and went didn't they? Worth the cost of upgrade? Certainly not. But some folks just don't feel self worth unless they have the latest products.
3rd I've been able to use Vista on my customers' tablets and laptops while training them. The Mac commercials weren't joking around. It's actually more cumbersome than XP. (Did I just say that?)And don't get me started on the new version of Office.
Call me a Luddite but I'll stick with XP Pro and Office 2003 until something more intuitive and bug free comes around. No I'm not spending the $$$ on Mac with limited hardware options either.
"Windows", "Vista" !!
by graememacfothaidh - 11/22/07 3:51 AM In reply to: Will you be installing Windows Vista? by Marc Bennett
Even the word 'windows' is a foreign word to computer users ( Macs, that is). When online I ignore all such foreign words and only respond to the Apple Mac language. This saves a lot of time when downloading something as the default is always for IBM-type pc users. If the download mentions Mac language then I consider it. If it does not mention Mac words then I ignore it, otherwise I may damage my Mac by downloading pc software. An example is Norton Security, which I downloaded as Norton kept pressing me, only to find that immediately I downloaded it, my Mac became vulnerable to pc-type viruses. Indeed, my Mac became so corrupted I lost all my data and had, in fact, to upgrade by buying another Mac computer! Apple Mac advise never to use anything with Norton in it. Graeme.
Can't let you get away with this off topic post, Graeme,
by mrmacfixit - 11/22/07 6:15 AM
In reply to: "Windows", "Vista" !! by graememacfothaidh
As a Mac user you should know that downloading applications that are written for Windows will NOT damage your Mac. Indeed they will not even run on your Mac.
As for your nonsense about Norton Security making your Mac "vulnerable to pc-type viruses", well that's just plain hogwash!
"Indeed, my Mac became so corrupted I lost all my data and had, in fact, to upgrade by buying another Mac computer! Now this statement was so funny that I almost blew my morning coffee down my nose.
If you are indeed a Mac user, stroll on over to the Mac forums and they will answer your questions and tell you all about Symantec (Norton) products. BTW, Apple Mac (whoever they are) do not advise users not to use Norton products. Mac users might, but not Apple.
If you wish to continue this, come on over to the Mac forums where the members can set you straight and, hopefully, stop you from spreading more FUD.
See you there.
P
Installing Windows Vista
by blue elk - 11/22/07 3:51 AM In reply to: Will you be installing Windows Vista? by Marc Bennett
I will not be installing Vista on any system currently being used.
A new machine had this OS installed and I find it interesting but different than previous versions in that sys. information, add/remove programs and other familiar offerings have yet to be found or are not there.
Does not seem as user friendly as XP, and, of course, some software and hardware items are not usable - so would not personally upgrade with this OS, only buy a new machine with it installed.
Went through this with XP updates and it is not as much fun as it once was.
Just say "no" to the dark side
by XMattingly - 11/22/07 4:08 AM In reply to: Will you be installing Windows Vista? by Marc Bennett
Haha, the "I use a Mac and will never go to the dark side" selection is about right.
Vista is an enormously bloated beast, and the fact that people are still actively complaining about it several months after its release shows. Pair that with the fact that MS is already starting to whisper about Windows 7 to the public, and you see that they'd love nothing more than to sweep this one under the rug and move on.
What a prime example of Microsoft's track record for over-promising and under-delivering.
Windows Vista
by thatchdc - 11/22/07 4:19 AM In reply to: Will you be installing Windows Vista? by Marc Bennett
I help my neighbor maintain a computer. She recently had me order a new Dell, and at that time I was not given an option between XP and Vista. Now they do allow this choice on select computers. I was not pleased with Vista very early on,as there were changes from XP that made no sense, such as Add/Remove Programs in the control panel now being called Program Features. Another is trying to find Display Settings that in XP was in the control panel.I only found this when reading CNET on this subject. There are many more examples I could cite. Vista comes loaded with so much garbage that it is much slower than XP and I continue to disable what I can determine is not really needed. From my perspective I see no compelling reason to buy Vista, and in fact I find XP to be much better. Microsoft forgot on old adage that is very applicable here; "if it ain't broke don't fix it". On a more personal note, having to discard perfectly good printers and scanners because they are not Vista compatible does not set well with me.
Got it and I love it
by genotypewriter - 11/22/07 4:32 AM In reply to: Will you be installing Windows Vista? by Marc Bennett
I have Vista Business it on my 8.9" touchscreen laptop, a 1.2GHz Core Solo (32bit) unit with 1GB of RAM shared with video plus a slow 4200rpm, 1.8" PATA drive. It starts up faster than my desktop with an unshared 1GB of RAM and a PATA RAID 0 setup.
The laptop originally came with XP Tablet PC Edition and the tablet functionality was a nightmare to use, at best. With Vista everything is smooth and seamless and a pure joy to use.
I don't know how I lived without it.
No Vista for me
by MrTommy - 11/22/07 4:34 AM In reply to: Will you be installing Windows Vista? by Marc Bennett
I'm just an everyday computer user. I've got no plans for switching to Vista. XP works just fine on our house LAN (with three computers linked and working fine). We've got a lot of older programs that work well in XP, and a few games as well. I've heard and read of many conflicts between Vista and older programs. I'm just not willing to make the switch on blind faith (especially with Microsoft's history of saying it's the program developer's responsibility to 'upgrade' their software). Nope, it's XP here at our house, at least for the foreseeable future. And even if we buy two NEW computers this year, we'll only buy them from a builder that will agree to load XP instead of Vista.
Vista
by ronycirocco - 11/22/07 4:47 AM In reply to: Will you be installing Windows Vista? by Marc Bennett
I'm happy with my Mac 10.4. 
Vista everywhere
by tessenmacher9903 - 11/22/07 4:58 AM In reply to: Will you be installing Windows Vista? by Marc Bennett
I have read some of these messages and from the sounds of it, most people won't be going to Vista. Well, I am going to be on of those exceptions. I have 3 PC's with Vista, one came with Vista Home premium which is the laptop for which I am writing on right now. I have upgraded an 6 year old PC that came with XP Home to Vista Home Premium and it runs and works faster than XP ever did. I took a 11 year old PC that had been upgraded from Windows 98 Second Edition to XP Home then upgraded to Vista Home Basic. What a difference, Vista made on both older PC's. I have had no problem with either Old or New PC since the upgrades. Of course the 11 year old PC is slower than the 2 newer ones. But it does run and work better since I upgraded to Vista. And yes I did upgrade every component in both older PCs to the max to run them, but if you know where to get the best bargain parts online, you can do this cheaper than purchasing brand new PCs, so for the cost it was better to upgrade. To all of you that may be skeptical, I have been using Vista since Feb, 2007 and have nothing but great things to say about it. Some people don't like change, that's fine, but somewhere along the line, you'll have to make the move. Change is good people!
Tim
Whats the problem?
by Romulin - 11/22/07 5:08 AM In reply to: Vista everywhere by tessenmacher9903As you I have been using Vista (Ultimate 64bit) for nearly a year now.
No problems at all! Why are other people having so many problems?
What did you keep? The computer case?
by Myztry - 11/22/07 5:21 AM In reply to: Vista everywhere by tessenmacher9903A 1996 (11 year old) PC would have been sitting below 500Mhz, and would be lucky to fit 256Meg (4x64Meg) worth of EDO RAM modules.
If Vista installed, it wouldn't be any where near usable.
Absolutely no reason to upgrade
by angryshortguy - 11/22/07 5:38 AM In reply to: Will you be installing Windows Vista? by Marc Bennett
I can find no reason to upgrade at home or at work.
Reasons not to upgrade:
Compatibility issues with software.
Compatibility issues with hardware.
Cost of upgrading implementation.
Cost of retraining users.
Productivity loss during training and getting up to speed.
Cost of upgrading current hardware.
Cost of maintaining xp and win98 for older software still in use.
Security issues.
Bug issues.
And those are just off the top of my head.
18 years as a UNIX, Windows, Linux, CAD/CAE, Backup/Recovery Admin, and Microsoft still pulls crap like this to amaze me.
Windows Vista
by sparker781 - 11/22/07 5:39 AM In reply to: Will you be installing Windows Vista? by Marc Bennett
I got Vista Ultimate and have had it for a few months. I havent had any issues (knock on wood). I like it but still use Office 2003.
Just throwing my 2 cents in.
To be honest I dont see the major difference. All the issues you guys talk about are here. Constant updates from Microsoft for stuff I dont need (Mostly optional updtes show-up). Other than that I am pretty satisfied with it. I can only imagine what its gonna be like when SP1 hits....OH YEAH Good Times!!
Ugh !!
by SuzReyn - 11/22/07 5:40 AM In reply to: Will you be installing Windows Vista? by Marc Bennett
I had to buy a new computer and was told that ONLY ones available had VISTA OS. Then nothing that I had previously would work with it ... even when I bought new software programs, there were problems.
Subsequently, my daughter bought a new computer and she was smart enough to buy it online with windows XP !!!!
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