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Cell phones: Poll: Time naming the iPhone "Invention of the year"

by Lee Koo (ADMIN) Moderator - 11/7/07 1:26 PM
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Post 136 of 278

Not worthy of the title

by Luhng - 11/8/07 2:31 AM In reply to: Poll: Time naming the iPhone "Invention of the year" by Lee Koo (ADMIN) Moderator

I somehow doubt that something that was released in China before the inventors released it would qualify as the best invention of the year, at least I hope not.

Let's face it there's probably dozens of better inventions in robotics alone.

What do we have? A mobile phone? Nothing new there. An MP3 player? Nothing new there. Touch screen technology? Well I just bought touch screen suduko for about US$7.50 so that's not too special either.

Add to this the stigma of what appears to be ripping people off on price. The stigma of the overwhelming greed (which, to me, is always and integral feature of Apple products)of trying to squeeze every last dollar out of the phone buyer (sucker) by limiting connection providers, destroying unlocked phones and preventing the use of other software and downloading facilties.

And please don't tell me Microsoft rips people off as well... I already know where the Gates Foundation money came from.

Post 137 of 278

HTC Kaiser/ TyTN II would have been a better candidate

by ThunderBirdsMaldives - 11/8/07 3:03 AM In reply to: Poll: Time naming the iPhone "Invention of the year" by Lee Koo (ADMIN) Moderator

iPhone was not the first cell /mobile phone so Time are either getting lazy or headline grabing. Sure its a nice phone but for features HTC's Kaiser /aka TyTN II leaves the iPhone for dead. Alas Time are using well known brands to boost their circulation I think.

Post 138 of 278

No.

by Kees Bakker Moderator - 11/8/07 3:19 AM In reply to: Poll: Time naming the iPhone "Invention of the year" by Lee Koo (ADMIN) Moderator

An "invention" implies patents to protect them. It should be interesting to see what patents Apple filed for the iPhone. As far as I know, most of it was already known and done by others.

Stretching (= distorting) an image by moving your fingers on a touch screen hardly can be called the invention of the year (unless we're talking on the most useless inventions). But there might be hidden spectacular technologies inside it, unknown to me.

Kees

Post 139 of 278

*** is an I-phone anyway ?

by colinhay - 11/8/07 3:52 AM In reply to: Poll: Time naming the iPhone "Invention of the year" by Lee Koo (ADMIN) Moderator

Excuse me but outside the US no-one has even heard of the I-phone

Whats so special about it ??

Post 140 of 278

iPhone comes late

by ShakespearesEdge - 11/8/07 3:53 AM In reply to: Poll: Time naming the iPhone "Invention of the year" by Lee Koo (ADMIN) Moderator

I don't understand why people are so smitten with the iPhone. I've had a PDA cell phone since they first hit the market, and I've owned one from every generation thereafter. First with Palm then with Windows, my PDA phones could always do what these iPhones do...and more. Now, with my Windows phone and the LogMeIn service, my laptop stays home. There's nothing new about the iPhone. If anything, it has a great deal of catch-up to play before it can touch the sophistication of both Windows and Palm. But then again, marketing *is* everything... ;)

Post 141 of 278

Not a technical person, but..........

by britgirl318 - 11/8/07 4:17 AM In reply to: Poll: Time naming the iPhone "Invention of the year" by Lee Koo (ADMIN) Moderator

I do not pretend to be a technical person by any stretch of the imagination. I do not own an ipod, nor even a 'proper' cell phone (only one of those Virgin card deals). But I do feel that maybe the 'Invention of the Year' for the ipod is a little strong. Yes, it is very innovative, and yes it will help ease many people's businesses, but as there were already cell phones and blackberries around, it is hardly an invention, but, as previously mentioned, an updated and improved version of both, with some extras.
The cell phone itself has come a long way in it's short life, but would anyone nominate the latest cells as the invention of the year - I don't think so!
To compare the 'invention' of the car with the ipod is stretching the point more than a little. Even the writer puts together the idea of using things already available, such as the wheel, but to put these thing together and come up with a car, when no car existed, is far different than improving on something already in use.......don't you think?

Post 142 of 278

Shame on Time Magazine

by mrhoads - 11/8/07 4:38 AM In reply to: Poll: Time naming the iPhone "Invention of the year" by Lee Koo (ADMIN) Moderator

I have lost all respect for Time. It's not an invention and not even a good product. A complete waste of money.

Post 143 of 278

iPhone a nice repackaging of previous convergence devices

by Chicolini - 11/8/07 4:44 AM In reply to: Poll: Time naming the iPhone "Invention of the year" by Lee Koo (ADMIN) Moderator

I got a T-Mobile Pocket PC Phone Edition (a/k/a O2 xda, Siemens SX56, HTC 9500 PDA Phone, HTC Pocket PC Phone Edition - XDA)
in early 2004. It did all the things an iPhone does (phone, web browsing, audio/video playback, sound recording) plus MS Office applications Excel, Outlook, Word. Like the iPhone, it had no keyboard.

Apple deserves kudos for design, not invention.

Post 144 of 278

Trust a Mag who named "Me" Person of the Year 2006?

by ncstate4me - 11/8/07 4:57 AM In reply to: Poll: Time naming the iPhone "Invention of the year" by Lee Koo (ADMIN) Moderator

And they also considerd the "Endangered Earth" a "Person" of the year in 1988. While I positively love my iPhone, I have no care whatsoever what Time mag has to say about it (good or bad) because I do not consider them worthy analysts.

Post 145 of 278

Who INVENTED the cell phone?

by Cnetta - 11/8/07 5:05 AM In reply to: Poll: Time naming the iPhone "Invention of the year" by Lee Koo (ADMIN) Moderator

Certainly NOT. The've just made some additions and what some MAY call improvements. To me--it's just extra decoration.

Post 146 of 278

Another gimmack

by Thombar - 11/8/07 5:18 AM In reply to: Poll: Time naming the iPhone "Invention of the year" by Lee Koo (ADMIN) Moderator

At 65 years old and far from being a techie I really couldn't care less about the new phone. I don't have one, won't get one, and have absolutely no use for one. That said it is a pretty cool gadget and should make the Apple stockholders very happy.,

Post 147 of 278

"Invention of the year"

by Keepinup - 11/8/07 5:48 AM In reply to: Poll: Time naming the iPhone "Invention of the year" by Lee Koo (ADMIN) Moderator

Its said that the Wright Brothers invented the airplane. Today, with the innovation of the shuttles does not give us the right to say we invented powered flight. Thus the IPhone, an innovative cell phone, must not be claimed the originator or inventor of such.

signed: GoodGrief

Post 148 of 278

The iPhone is an Invention

by Richard Spagna - 11/8/07 5:52 AM In reply to: Poll: Time naming the iPhone "Invention of the year" by Lee Koo (ADMIN) Moderator

I agree that the iPhone is an invention. First of all the iPhone has patented innovations which are legally considered to be inventions. They did not invent the cell phone but they did invent the iPhone. It is also refreshing to see an American company that is as innovative as Apple. As a business owner and entrepreneur, I can appreciate the struggle that Apple has endured in the fight against Microsoft and other computer companies. I challenge anyone to name a consumer electronics product manufacturer that has had more success and press in the short amount of time that Apple has had since the introduction of the iPhone and iPod. The majority if criticism of Apple stems from the negativity towards the Apple operating system that Windows "PC" users have carried on for over a decade. I think that the die hard Windows "PC" fans have "tunnel vision" regarding Apple and should just get over it and admit that Apple is a great company and truly deserves the recognition that they are currently receiving.

Post 149 of 278

I think the tunnel vision is yours...

by schlice - 11/8/07 7:48 AM In reply to: The iPhone is an Invention by Richard Spagna

> I challenge anyone to name a consumer electronics product manufacturer that has had more success and press in the short amount of time that Apple has had since the introduction of the iPhone and iPod.

The amount of impact on society a device generates does not make it an invention.

> The majority if criticism of Apple stems from the negativity towards the Apple operating system that Windows "PC" users have carried on for over a decade.

Irrelevant. Like it or not, it doesn't qualify as an invention.

> I think that the die hard Windows "PC" fans have "tunnel vision" regarding Apple and should just get over it and admit that Apple is a great company and truly deserves the recognition that they are currently receiving.

I agree that Apple should receive recognition, but not as an "inventor." The iPhone is not an "invention." It's an "innovation," and a really big one, but they didn't "invent" anything.

The definition of an "invention" is something that's really useful that has never been done before. Devices which allow you to listen to music, watch video, surf the web, and talk on cell phones have all been invented before. Apple raised the bar, to be sure. They arguably created one of the best convergence devices out there.

But that unfortunately doesn't qualify it as an invention.

Post 150 of 278

Tunnel vision

by Remag1234 - 11/8/07 11:26 AM In reply to: I think the tunnel vision is yours... by schlice

schlice: Well said.

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