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Cell phones: Poll: Time naming the iPhone "Invention of the year"

by Lee Koo (ADMIN) Moderator - 11/7/07 1:26 PM
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Post 16 of 278

This is not an invention but ....

by nazimrj - 11/7/07 3:49 PM In reply to: Poll: Time naming the iPhone "Invention of the year" by Lee Koo (ADMIN) Moderator

An innovation. Just as the Japanese had done for decades, Apple has taken the best technologies offered over multiple devices, and has incorporated these into a single device operating on an open Operating system, Linux.

Post 17 of 278

Re:

by newtflagg - 11/7/07 4:56 PM In reply to: This is not an invention but .... by nazimrj

Apple uses OSX, not Linux in its iPhone ;)

Post 18 of 278

here here!!!

by Jillnjase - 11/22/07 12:48 PM In reply to: This is not an invention but .... by nazimrj

U r exactly correct. The word is INNOVATION!!! Big difference between invention and innovation. If they had said the innovation of the year then I might agree, but ????? i would have to question that 2 ?????? The Jury is still out!!!

Post 19 of 278

The year is not over.

by gadjitfreek - 11/7/07 4:02 PM In reply to: Poll: Time naming the iPhone "Invention of the year" by Lee Koo (ADMIN) Moderator

For this year, my vote goes to the OQO Model 02, but the Nokia N810 might give it a run for its money. How about the inexpensive and user-friendly Eee PC? The iPhone was the most hyped, no doubt, but it is not the most useful device.

Post 20 of 278

Well ...

by Ken Jr. - 11/7/07 11:45 PM In reply to: The year is not over. by gadjitfreek

I got excited when I saw this post because it's the only one on the 6 pages I've read that mentioned some other product that was felt to be more deserving of the award. Those are nice little miniature PCs mentioned here but none would be my first choice.

Every few years a REAL invention comes along. For instance, the IC as we know it today was made possible when Fairchild's Dr. Hoerni invented the Planar Process. Virtually every new technological innovation since has used Planar Process manufactured ICs as the fundamental building blocks. Hard drives, LCD screens, CDs, and Digital Cameras are other important inventions used in today's wonder products. But in our current environment, most of what we call inventions are simply evolutionary products. Probably the best example of this is what many consider to be the most important invention to come along in years, IBM's Personal Computer, or PC. But think about it, the PC was simply an evolutionary product, a computer made small. It was the packaging that made it revolutionary. Well .. It's the packaging that makes Apple's iPhone revolutionary in today's environment. For that reason I would definitely pick the iPhone as invention of the year in the same manner in which I would pick IBM's PC the invention of the year for 1981.

Post 21 of 278

Not quite the same thing

by thesimulacra - 11/8/07 6:08 AM In reply to: Well ... by Ken Jr.

I don't think that's a fair comparison. The IBM PC was the first computer that a person could actually put in their house, the first computer a person could afford. The computer revolution happened because it was invented. I can tell you that 99% of the people buying iPhones already have a cell phone, they're just upgrading to something "cooler". Taking something that already existed and repackaging it is not an invention, or else EVERY new cell phone, car, refrigerator, television, and bag of peanuts is an invention too. TIME magazine shouldn't be celebrating successful marketing campaigns as if it was a scientific breakthrough. There have been plenty of more important inventions that no one has heard about, but TIME just wants to sell magazines. Same reason why they named Giuliani "Man of the Year" in 2001 instead of Bin Laden, who was obviously the person or thing who "created the most news that year".

Post 22 of 278

Well ...

by Ken Jr. - 11/8/07 9:29 PM In reply to: Not quite the same thing by thesimulacra

Before the IBM PC came along there were small inexpensive computers made by Altair, Apple, Workslate, Commodore, Texas Instruments, Sinclair, and etc. I owned three of these. Even IBM had its 5100 which looked much like its later PC but cost about $9k. Then IBM decided on an operating system (DOS) that had been developed based on Gary Kindall's CP/M > Tim Patterson's QDOS > Gates' MS-DOS (purchased from Tim Patterson for $50,000) then licensed as MS-DOS. Intel's 8086 was set up as the PC's heart. IBM then gathered together a group of top designers who put together this wonder of a machine. The final genius on the part of IBM was to release its design for use by anyone who wanted to clone it. I bought some of those first IBM XT PCs for course developers in my department (my company authorized them because they were IBMs and would thus be well supported in years to come). Shortly thereafter I bought a clone of an IBM AT PC (AT had a hard drive) PC for home use. If you think about it, it was those clones that rapidly turned IBMs PC design into that almost instant international sensation.

Again, IBM's PC was simply a beautifully configured combination of stuff that had been invented or developed elsewhere. Time gave IBM its well deserved Invention of the Year award in the early '80s, and has now selected Apple's iPhone, another beautifully configured combination of stuff that for the most part had been invented elsewhere, for this year's Invention of the Year. I certainly can't think of any other product that has come forth that would be more deserving.

Post 23 of 278

Cell Phone Forum

by PKG - 11/22/07 5:22 AM In reply to: Well ... by Ken Jr.

I feel the recognition of i phone is justified. Innovation or none, originality or copy, credit goes to Steve Jobs who recognized electricity in lightening (like BF) and deserves and gets the credit!

Post 24 of 278

The Samsung sph p9200 is much better than an OQO or Nokia

by mobilesalesman - 11/13/07 3:21 PM In reply to: The year is not over. by gadjitfreek

All of the UMPC's are sadly just like the first batch, products with no purpose. The Samsung sph p9200 is the first pocket size UMPC that has a touch type keyboard so you can actually do computer work on it,what a ground breaking idea? The other computer designers need to learn what consumers want and it is not a pen input only nor a thumb input geeky device.

Post 25 of 278

More like innovation of the year...

by jkabahit - 11/7/07 4:02 PM In reply to: Poll: Time naming the iPhone "Invention of the year" by Lee Koo (ADMIN) Moderator

or maybe even design of the year.

Post 26 of 278

Best marketing campaign of the year, yes

by pmgpmg - 11/8/07 5:23 AM In reply to: More like innovation of the year... by jkabahit

I will vote for the "best marketing campaign of the year".

As for product, I still trust 10 time more Nokia, which
has 15 years of experience, the BEST operating system
(Symbian), and the BEST end-user APIs (se all the SDKs and
plug-ins you can get).

Post 27 of 278

If invent is a marketing campaign...

by jlcadena - 11/8/07 3:23 PM In reply to: Best marketing campaign of the year, yes by pmgpmg

I'm agree with you.

If invent something is just have a good marketing campaign, then the release of HALO 3 should be then also named the invention of the year.

Be real.

Post 28 of 278

It is all about Marketing Campaign between Apple and Time!

by james2ue - 11/9/07 7:55 AM In reply to: Best marketing campaign of the year, yes by pmgpmg

What is meanings of Invention?

"The act of finding out or inventing; contrivance or construction of that which has not before existed" - (My Pocket Oxford Dictionary).

Iphone is not the first generation of PDA-Smartphone-Touch Screen at all. So, the Time uses the term "Invention" has been just for Marketing Lobby.

People may improve or innovate a car from Manual to Automatic, however it was called "Invention".

Anyway, for me, Time is so crap for using that word.

Here I can suggest some vocabularies for them (Time + Apple).

"The Revolution of the Year"
"The Most Hopefulness of the Year"
"The Most Curious Cellular of the Year"

I am pretty sure that Apple has lobbied Time for this deputing title.

James

Post 29 of 278

what is the meaning of the word INVENTION?

by vnatar - 11/7/07 4:05 PM In reply to: Poll: Time naming the iPhone "Invention of the year" by Lee Koo (ADMIN) Moderator

what is the meaning of invention?
tell me that first. if what apple did was invention...
then people like graham bell & right bros should come alive and hang themselves to death !!!

Post 30 of 278

Inventions ALWAYS build on the current state of the art

by KaplanMike - 11/7/07 5:00 PM In reply to: what is the meaning of the word INVENTION? by vnatar

All those criticizing the iPhone because it's not an "invention" point to classic inventors like Bell and Edison. But history shows us that inventions are rarely created out of the blue. Even Bell and Edison based their inventions on existing technologies for the most part. Doesn't make their contributions any less significant. Same with the iPhone. The "invention" part is how it brings together existing technologies in an innovative way to create something entirely new.

I'll agree that it's probably not the most significant invention of the year, which is probably sitting on some inventor's lab table, and we'll only hear about it five years from now. I don't know what other new products Time Magazine was considering, but I think from a consumer standpoint, it's hard to beat the iPhone.

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