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Samsung LNT4661F 46" 1080p LCD
by mmaness0 - 10/25/07 9:07 AMIs it true that viewing 4:3 broadcasts on your this TV will cause burn in on the sides??? How long does this take to happen. It seems that most of the broadcasts on tv have this aspect ratio. Also, what does the manufacturer warranty cover on this. Should I purchase the extended warranty?
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by stuntman_mike - 10/25/07 11:00 AM In reply to: Samsung LNT4661F 46" 1080p LCD by mmaness0it is true that watching broadcasts with sidebars can cause burn in on TVs. That is why some channels offer sidebars in gray instead of black and most TVs have the option to change the color of the side bar as well. How likely is this to happen? Not likely. You would have to be watching a lot of side bar broadcasts that have a lot of bright broadcast material next to the black bars. I doubt if you are watching the skiing channel too often lol.
If you are like me, you probably only watch SD when you have to and watch as much HD as possible. I don't think that you should worry yourself that much about it.
I would recommend that you get the warranty though. These TVs are big investments. It makes sense to protect yourself for $300 or so to prevent you from having to pay more than that to have it fixed, or worse, buy a brand new one.
Good luck
Eh, not something to worry about with LCD
by Tyba1982 - 10/25/07 12:56 PM In reply to: Samsung LNT4661F 46" 1080p LCD by mmaness0Burn in really isn't a problem with LCD TVs. I'm pretty careful with my gear but don't see burn-in as an issue with LCDs. I have a Samsung LNT4666f and take no special measures to keep burn in from happening and my set looks phenomenal.
Burn in is a problem with Plasma sets, not LCDs.
"Extended Warranty? How could I lose!?" - Homer Simpson
by woodygg - 10/25/07 1:06 PM In reply to: Samsung LNT4661F 46" 1080p LCD by mmaness0My standard spiel...
I have a background in accounting/finance and work for an electronics mfg. One of my jobs is to estimate our warranty liability and to cost out extended warranties. I know how this business works, and I KNOW that they make a profit margin that would make your head spin. I have yet to ever buy an extended warranty and have yet to ever need one. With the money I've saved by not buying extended warranties, I could purchase two brand new HDTV's!
IF a high tech product is going to break, it will almost always break quickly - that is the nature of electronics. Bad solder joints, defective component, etc - they will generally show up right away while they're under warranty. The failure rate drops down until you get out to about 6 or 7 years (generally speaking) then rises... the chart looks like a bathtub...
Tip - the worst thing you can do to your electronics is turn them on and off often. this is what can wear them out - heating up/expanding - cooling off/contracting... the best example is a light bulb. When does it almost always burn out? Right when you turn it on. A friend of mine had been a TV/appliance repairman earlier in his life - when I’d turn on his TV at his house, he'd always tell me to leave it on and he'd turn it off at the end of the day. Of course, i won't even touch the issue of electricity use...
Of course, it's been pointed out, that if you can buy it cheap enough, it might be worth it. Someone mentioned they purchased a two or three year warranty from Sam's club for $70 on an HDTV - for that price, I'd probably be tempted as well. You are essentially purchasing insurance - VERY EXPENSIVE insurance. Check with your credit card company, some offer extended warranties if you use their card to purchase the item.
Love the Homer Simpson quote...
by mmaness0 - 10/25/07 2:04 PM In reply to: "Extended Warranty? How could I lose!?" - Homer Simpson by woodyggLove the Homer Simpson quote, I was actually thinking of that same quote when I was pondering wether or not to buy it. lol
I would be satisfied with just a one year warranty (the manufacturer's), but I am concerned that it won't cover what I might need it to. The guy at Circuit City told me that it is very limited. For example, it only covers if the TV goes out entirely, not if there is lines in the picture, etc. Is this true or just a scare tactic to sell their extended warranty? Also, do you run the risk of getting a refurbished item through the manufacturer warranty?
"The guy at Circuit City told you..."
by woodygg - 10/25/07 2:11 PM In reply to: Love the Homer Simpson quote... by mmaness0they will tell you all kinds of stories...
and pressure you endlessley.
it's your money - but just know the facts - it is very, VERY expensive insurance. of course - anything can happen, but odds are, if it does break, it will break right away.
By the way...
by woodygg - 10/25/07 2:17 PM In reply to: Love the Homer Simpson quote... by mmaness0it is an actual quote from a Simpson's episode.
Turns out, Homer was stupid because a crayon had become lodged in his brain, so he had it removed and he turned out to be quite brilliant. Of course, he alienated himself because he was so smart - so decided to have the crayon put back up his nose into his brain.
As Moe was pounding it further and further up his nose, he became dumber and dumber... it became apparent that he had shoved the crayon far enough up his nose when Homer uttered his most stupid remark...
"Extended Warranty, how could I lose!?"
Homer
by mmaness0 - 10/25/07 2:19 PM In reply to: By the way... by woodyggYes, I understand the relevance of the quote. Great episode!
Thanks
I agree with woodygg...
by stuntman_mike - 10/26/07 10:36 AM In reply to: Wasn't sure by woodyggthat products tend to break early on. Unfortunately it usually seems that they break just when the 15 or 30day return date is over from the store (seen it happen many times, most recently from a friend with his XBR4 and another with his PS3). The other time when things love to break is right after the manufacturer's warranty has ended lol.
Everyone is different. Some people like the extendeds and some like woodygg don't. I think that it makes sense to pay the extra $300 for 5yrs to cover yourself. If you spend $3000 or more on a TV, is it really that much of a difference. Especially if you have an RPTV and it costs that much for a bulb replacement anyway, doesn't it make sense to just pay the $300 and be covered by almost everything else too.
I never used to buy warranties, and I got away with it way more times than it bit me, but I have seen how it is a benefit too. I buy warranties on quite a few electronic items now. I won't mention the retailer, but the one in question has a very good no questions asked policy. I have bought a receiver, a cordless phone, and some other things that I have problems with. Not always because they are broken admittedly, sometimes just because it doesn't work the way I would like or thought it would. When ever the items warranty is about to expire, I bring it in, tell them I'm not happy. They offer to give me a new one of the same make, I tell them I don't want that one, it gave me trouble. They give me my pick of another item for the same amount of waht I purchased mine for. If you know anything about tech, you know that $300 today buys you a better product than it did 2yrs ago. So basically I get an upgrade.
Now that will not work with a TV of course. But I did have a friend that had an old CRT 55" Sony RPTV. He bought it from Sears with a warranty. Over the course of many years his TV died. The warranty, like most big chain warranties, stated that if they could not fix his set, they have to give you a new one. Well they couldn't fix his set and they didn't make that junk box of a TV anymore so they gave him his choice from any brand new TV on the floor that was the equivalent of what he paid. I don't reember what he paid for his CRT way back when but it was a lot. And a lot gets you a whole lot mor today. Needless to say he has an awesome TV now all because he spent a few hundred on a warranty.
Again it is up to you and to each their own. I don't begrudge woodygg for his stance and I do believe him when he says that theses retailers make a killing on warranties because more often than not nothing bad happens until the TV is so old that you can live with it dying anyway. But that doesn't mean that there aren't horror stories of people out there that could have benefitted from an extended or people that got use out of theirs like me and my friend. And I don't appreciate the insinuation that anyone who buys an extended warranty is stupid. And yes I saw that episode too. I also thought it was funny, but not always accurate.
yes... and for
by woodygg - 10/26/07 3:13 PM In reply to: I agree with woodygg... by stuntman_mikewhat your friend spent on all of his extended warranties over the years... he could've had two new televisions!
This is Abuse
by TGWSG - 10/26/07 8:18 PM In reply to: I agree with woodygg... by stuntman_mikeEveryone who buys an extended warrety (although only a retarded person would buy them) pays a lot more than they should have the price because people like you abuse the system!
You are wrong woodygg...
by stuntman_mike - 10/27/07 7:00 AM In reply to: This is Abuse by TGWSGhe extended the warranty once. Counting the time he first bought the 5yr and the second we are talking about in the range of $600. Maybe less as warranties are more now than they used to be. I don't know about you but I would trade in a 10yr old TV plus $600 for a $3-4000 brand new model with better technology. If that doesn't add up to you then I guess we agree to disagree.
TGWSG, you're a moron. How can anyone abuse the system. If it is their policy to replace broken merchandise under warranty for new items, how am I abusing it. That's what the warranty is for. And if warranties are so much because companies are getting ripped off, in your opinion, then why do they make so much money from warranties. You obviously believe they make a killing on people who buy warranties, if not you wouldn't say people who buy them are the un PC word that you used. When you have made up your mind who is getting ripped off, then we can talk again.
after reading your post again...
by woodygg - 10/27/07 8:55 AM In reply to: I agree with woodygg... by stuntman_mikeabout returning products because they didn't work 'the way you thought they would' - yes, you do abuse the system. but hey, they make more than enough money of suckers who buy the warranties. first, the sales guy makes 25-50% of the total warranty amount right off the top....
LOL...
by stuntman_mike - 10/27/07 10:54 AM In reply to: after reading your post again... by woodyggagain, how is it abuse if that is their policy. If I tell them that the sound quality of XYZ brands speakerphone is terrible and the volume is so low that it is useless and they give me another make, is that abuse?
Again I will respectfully disagree. I am done with the subject. I only return to this post to see if the original poster has gotten what he needed. But unfortunately it seems that this isn't his post anymore and for that I apologize.
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