Version: 2008
Advanced Search
advertisement
advertisement
Click Here

Forum display:

Buzz Out Loud Lounge: Windows Vista Rant, Rant!

by mobile_bob - 10/16/07 5:28 AM
advertisement
Click Here
Post 46 of 75

What high cost?

by R. Proffitt Moderator - 10/18/07 9:08 AM In reply to: Main problem with vista.... by Nicholas Buenk

My new laptop was 17 inch, all the usual stuff and ... 599 bucks.

Compared to 4 years ago I'm going to state that that maybe Vista has helped reduce costs.

Bob

Post 47 of 75

I mean the cost...

by Nicholas Buenk - 10/18/07 10:59 AM In reply to: What high cost? by R. Proffitt Moderator

Of buying it seperately as a non-OEM retail copy.

Post 48 of 75

It looks to be on par with XP versions.

by R. Proffitt Moderator - 10/18/07 11:03 AM In reply to: I mean the cost... by Nicholas Buenk

We can toss out Ultimate unless you want to compare that to buying a copy of both XP and XP-64 so your costs look to be the same as before if I compare similar feature sets.

Bob

Post 49 of 75

Yeah

by Nicholas Buenk - 10/18/07 11:11 AM In reply to: It looks to be on par with XP versions. by R. Proffitt Moderator

Still too high. ;)

Post 50 of 75

That's what you get with a monopoly...

by Nicholas Buenk - 10/18/07 11:15 AM In reply to: Yeah by Nicholas Buenk

Artificially high prices.

Post 51 of 75

Yes, some felt NT, 2000, XP were...

by R. Proffitt Moderator - 10/18/07 11:18 AM In reply to: Yeah by Nicholas Buenk

All to high.

Shouldn't they run Linux?

Post 52 of 75

Vista is solid

by aximuser - 10/18/07 5:54 AM In reply to: Windows Vista Rant, Rant! by mobile_bob

Yes, I remember those early XP days. XP didn't become stable until after the release of SP2. I think Vista at launch was better than XP was at its launch and I just don't know why there is such wide-spread criticism. I can only speak from personal expericence but I have had very few problems with Vista. I upgraded an older (4 year), single core, P4 computer that has only 1GB of RAM and a 128MB ATI video card to Vista and I also bought a new Acer PC with a Core2Duo processor and 2 GB of RAM with Vista pre-installed on that PC. I'm running Vista Home Premium on both PCs. Performance and stability on both PCs are excellent and I have found Vista on the older PC with only a gigabyte of RAM to be great. I would not want to go back to XP and I'm not sure why BOL, CNET in general, and most other podcasters continue to bash Vista.

The apps that ship with Vista work extremely well. From DVD burning, to Windows Media Center to MovieMaker, I find that I need fewer 3rd party apps which is fine by me.

I do recommend upgrading Vista using the dual boot option. Then if you do have a problem you still have XP to still use.

Post 53 of 75

(NT) I'll second that

by Dango517 - 10/18/07 7:42 AM In reply to: Vista is solid by aximuser

Post 54 of 75

Force Fed

by teddkg - 10/18/07 10:24 PM In reply to: Vista is solid by aximuser

Again, I think it is because, unlike XP, Vista is being force fed. It is nearly impossible to buy a PC or Laptop with XP on it. When XP was released, this was not the case, one could choose between 98, 2000, or XP. BIG Difference! Hence the complaining, because for some it is just not time to go to Vista.

I for instance would like to use Vista, but I can't because some of my business software WILL NOT run on it. BUT, I can only buy Vista machines and downgrading is a HUGE pain! I never had that with XP.

I think that is the reason!

Post 55 of 75

What the big deal with downgrading?

by ellis feigenbaum - 10/19/07 5:06 PM In reply to: Force Fed by teddkg

If you buying a brand new laptop that was designed specifically for xp, sure downgrading may pose a few driver problems.
But if your buying a laptop from any of the major brands, dell hp asus acer lenovo ,that actually existed before the advent of vista just whip out the hard drive install xp home on a new hard drive and keep the one with vista pre installed till your ready to run vista.( its cheaper than pro and 90% of the pro extras are already on the disc, you just need to look for them to install them)
you may need a driver or 2 but they will all be on your vendors website.

Post 56 of 75

Nothing Wrong With Vista

by prince10bee - 10/19/07 5:05 PM In reply to: Windows Vista Rant, Rant! by mobile_bob

I have Windows Vista Ultimate and it works great. I have no major problems with it.

Post 57 of 75

Someone finally talking sonme sense

by KanineLupus - 10/19/07 6:05 PM In reply to: Windows Vista Rant, Rant! by mobile_bob

I have to agree to being so sick of the bandwagon Vista bashing. I can still remember 12 months after XP was released and seeing some software STILL not updated for that OS. Things have come a long way since then with most supported software and a great deal of hardware already updated for Vista within months of release, a huge percentage even by the time this Windows version hit the shelves. MS showed a great deal of common sense in their releasing Vista pre-releases for public and business preview ...ity got many of the kinks out before people started handing over the bucks.

The other thing I really like is that finally, with the new AERO interface being GPU dependent, that we might start seeing a clearing out of many of the bare-basic-yet-over-priced junk PC's, as well as more of the general public feeling a little more confident in getting to know their computer. With a more intuative layout hopefully it will be easier for users to make their way around.

On the negative ....so long as manufacturers like HP keep pumping out PC's using out-dated hardware, as well as manufacturers taking advantage over the current lack of understanding over the different Vista builds, then the confusion will continue to prevail. Maybe it is about time MS finally did more of the advertising instead of leaving it in the hands of the PC manufacturer.

It will also take some time for people to fully realise how to move around Vista and make it work as hard as it is capable. For instance, how many BVista users know the "F10 shortcut" to reveal the classic menubar, or to use "Disk-cleanup" to keep the system backups from chewing away at HDD resources??

All in all, as one who has seen Vista progress from the Beta 1 days, I have to say a great job :)

Post 58 of 75

Other OS's have smooth upgrades, why can't MS do the same?

by mindpower - 10/20/07 6:58 AM In reply to: Windows Vista Rant, Rant! by mobile_bob

Stop making excuses for Micro$oft! So what if there were problems with upgrading Win95, Win98 and XP? MS have had more than enough time to make the upgrade process smooth.

Go ask any Mac or Linux user if they've ever had a peripheral, which was working fine, suddenly stop working after an upgrade of the OS.

If you think that it's "normal" for there to be issues when upgrading an OS it's most likely because you haven't experienced upgrading an OS other than Windows. Many distributions of Linux can even be upgraded without you even needing to reboot!

Post 59 of 75

Reply to other OS's have smooth upgrades, why can't MS do

by easyman55 - 10/20/07 9:15 AM In reply to: Other OS's have smooth upgrades, why can't MS do the same? by mindpower

Vista works just fine it's the hard ware manufacturers they were told years ago to get ready for vista but did they NO they did nothing until it was released. I still have hd sat cards and no drivers for them. But I live in hope and anyway if we had on problems it would make computers very boring because that's half the fun getting them to run smoothly another late night again then ?

Post 60 of 75

It's not as if...

by Nicholas Buenk - 10/20/07 10:52 AM In reply to: Other OS's have smooth upgrades, why can't MS do the same? by mindpower

OS X updates never break any 3rd party software....
Although you can kind of be sure it'll work on Apples hardware at least. ;)
Vista is a worthwhile upgrade to XP, which is a pathetically OS old missing many features of modern OS's. I can say that mac users have tended to be more impressed by vista than windows users. It's a 'finally windows has this feature of OS X that I like' thing.
However I stopped using it on my PC as some of my favourite games, crash on load!
Also, it really irritates me how overpriced and full of DRM Vista is, it should be avoided on principle.

Forum legend:
Locked Locked thread
Moderator Moderator
CNET staff CNET staff
Samsung staff Samsung staff
Norton Authorized Support team Norton Authorized Support team
AVG staff AVG staff
Windows Outreach team Windows Outreach team
Dell staff Dell staff
Intel staff Intel staff
Powered by Jive Software