MP3 players: iPod Touch vs Archos 605 wifi (webbrowser, video, youtube)
no war please
by JonTitor - 10/2/07 1:03 PM In reply to: Yes, it is a mistake. by snorky1773the guy already bought a Touch, and even if he feels it's a mistake it's unlikely he'll return it. Just post your suggestion when something else is looking at the 605
I think you're right ... for the most part ...
by ZabZabJuddah - 10/2/07 1:03 PM In reply to: Yes, it is a mistake. by snorky1773Overall I think the Archos 605 is the better product ... overall. :-/
Oh and I didn't know that torrentz worked as is, I usually had to use VLC media player to watch my downloads on my computer back home. However, the Archos doesn't allow you to use bittorrent directly does it? If it does I may reconsider my purchase.
But yeah all in all I'm very happy with my decision. My main uses for either of the products would be for browsing the web and listening to music, occasionally watching videos. The sites I go to are as follows: Facebook, MSN, EPSN, YouTube, BankofAmerica, Gmail, Google (to catch up on news about Randy moss, Kobe Bryant, and Ronaldo), Cnet, Engadget, Sneakerfreaker, and my school email account ... so my internet usage is very basic and not so flash intensive. Also, in terms of price, I bought the 8gb (lol, don't laugh) with a 2 year warranty accidental warranty which I plan on using. I figure, like all iPods, the storage capacity will go up while the smaller capacity iPods get phased out, ala the 4gb iPhone) ... so basically when I do upgrade/"accidentally" drop my iPod I'll get a slight capacity bump.
Also, I don't have a computer or laptop, so I can't really download movies etc. anyways and I don't really plan on buying too many movies either. The one show that I use to use bittorent gets put on YouTube now and so I can basically watch it without downloading it which saves me tons of space.
I will need a movie or two for those long plane rides overseas or the weekend trips on the train but I'll figure that out when it comes time for that.
Again, I do think that overall the Archos wins in terms of price and functionality. However, it terms of portability, meaning sliding it in my pocket (and I don't wear baggy jeans), the Touch wins hands down. Also, the glass screen is VERY nice - but again, Archos doesn't have a storefront to let you test things out in person so I wasn't willing to gamble with the Archos when Apple had a winner I could see for myself without buying first.
Also, in order to use the Archos to record shows, movies, etc. that would mean I'd have to leave my Archos home to catch those shows and my Touch goes pretty much everywhere with me. So even if the Touch had that capability I don't think I'd use it since I'd want it with me rather than at home.
But yeah, I'm in my final semester of college and I really just wanted something portable to check websites and email etc. between (or during) classes with the option of watching YouTube wheb my shows come out. After class I have to commute on the bus between North and Central campus so I enjoy listening to my music then and when walking around campus.
While I'm pretty sure the Archos could do the same and more as the Touch I'm also pretty sure that it would feel awkward in my pants pocket being as it's much thicker and heavier than the Touch. Basically I forget that the Touch is even in my pocket most of the times.
Also, I don't think that looks should be a debate as most would PROBABLY agree the Touch looks a thousand times better than the Archos. Oh and the GUI is much better on the Touch than the Archos and because of my Industrial & Operations background I think that stands out more to me.
But yea, I don't have a lot of music or any videos so space isn't a biggie. Portability, ease of use, and ability to check email/webpages are what I need it for when not listening to music - which the Touch does a good job of providing.
Archos is better but Apple still wins??? That kind of sounds right 
... and really Archos should be happy with itself and learn from the one or two minor mistakes it made in its styling and graphical user interface. (The 606 should be even better!)
Oh and I think Archos needs a store front, I seriously NEED to talk to people in person to see their face and reaction when I have questions about their products ... because I also need a name and face to associate the purchase with in the event that I'm not satisfied and have to come back and speak to a manager about so-and-so who blatantly lied to me about X-product. :-D
I hope you are happy with your choice - that is what matters
by snorky1773 - 10/2/07 1:23 PM In reply to: I think you're right ... for the most part ... by ZabZabJuddahI just like to point out the flaws in someone's argument when they attempt to justify one purchase over another with silly statements. The Touch is sleek, the Archos is a feature maniac. I watch hours of video a day (TV, movies, tutorials, web) my final decision fits me like a glove and I am sure you are happy with yours.
Enjoy your new Touch and have a good day.
archos 605
by jcdj.acid - 10/11/07 1:51 PM In reply to: I think you're right ... for the most part ... by ZabZabJuddahi have the 605 (30 gig) on me all the time. i have eveything that is on my computer. and i still got 10 through 13 gigs to spare. the reason i like it is cause, i get photos off my camra with the mini dock, i rec. tv, some times my friends got music i want so i plug it to the mini dock and i got the music. the only thing that sucks is size. its not that bulky or heavey, but you still see it in my pocket. i had the ipod shuffle for a year or 2,and id forget it in my pocket so it was washed and dryed. then it broke after this process was being repeated 6 times through the 2 years. so i got the 605 and i know its not gonna get washed. i like the archos cause it has more functions and a larger screen, but if size maters the ipod touch.
well lets just say that I typed this on my
by BeatleMegaFan - 10/2/07 1:16 PM In reply to: Yes, it is a mistake. by snorky1773Touch. First of all, the previous posters are right; portability is something the Touch has. And if you like coffee, Starbucks has the new wifi thing going on. You get the iPhone OS in an iPod and superb quality in internet and audio + video. My device does not have the "negative effect" or any other problem.
The Archos is good as a large PVP but the Touch is more of a nice flash-based player. If you like Apple, you're bound to like the Touch in some way. If not, you can get the other for more storage for your buck. I like my Touch, but everyone's entitled to their own opinion.
They're both good. Choose what you like. Appearence is really what determines your choice. Anyone disagree? And yes, it takes a while to type this stuff LOL.
-BMF
I disagree
by Avidprime - 10/3/07 8:26 AM In reply to: well lets just say that I typed this on my by BeatleMegaFan"Appearance is really what determines your choice. Anyone disagree?"
That has to be the most ridiculous comment I've read in these posts. It's that shallow mentality that has made Apple millions. Yes you don't want your Media device to look like it's a cheap piece of garbage but I think the features that the device offers are way more important than how it looks. The Touch is very sleek but I wouldn't say that the Archos is the worst looking thing in the world either. You can have your Stock corvette and I'll take that Hooked up Nissan 350Z with all the Mods. Your stock Vette might look pretty on the outside but once you get in that 350Z and you see what it has and what it can do. You will quickly forget the Vette.
It amazes me how people are more concerned with appearance over functionality.
I get why you disagreed but ...
by ZabZabJuddah - 10/3/07 8:51 AM In reply to: well lets just say that I typed this on my by BeatleMegaFanMy opinion is that looks do play a large role in A LOT of things in life ... clothes, people you date, schools (their reputation), etc.
I don't know, but it seems as if you took offense to that comment and while you yourself may not be concerned with looks do you think there are plenty of other people who are? It'd be "ideal" if people weren't so concerned with looks and to a large degree I give people the benefit of the doubt that looks alone don't determine what they choose and that it's a combination of things ...
the example you gave probably depends on how you grew up (rather than looks). If you grew up idolizing old vettes/muscle cars then you'd probably choose the vette; however, if you grew up and loved watching the underdog (import car) beat the living daylight out of a Vette, Lambo, Ferrari, etc. then ofcourse you'd choose the Nissan 350Z ...
Also, what would be the point of a world in which looks didn't matter? My opinion of something like that would be a very bland, yet efficient, world ... aka boring
Oh and if you had a stock 350Z versus a Kia Ria that was souped up which would you choose?
Don't judge a book by it's cover
by Avidprime - 10/3/07 9:20 AM In reply to: well lets just say that I typed this on my by BeatleMegaFanI understand that many people do base judgments on looks... and as I said before.... That's shallow. You mentioned schools, Do you pick a school based on how nice the buildings look? Or do you look into what the school has to offer as far as classes, teachers and programs?
I'm not saying that looks shouldn't play a role in life. What I'm saying is that you shouldn't base decisions strictly on somethings physical appearance. Let me ask you this.....If someone offered you a new IPOD Touch that was bare inside (no electronics), would you buy it? After all, it still looks nice.
As for the car analogy... The Kia you mentioned is not in the same class as the 350Z so that doesn't work.
I can see where you are comming from
by lloyd877 - 10/12/07 6:11 PM In reply to: As an Apple fan and user by BeatleMegaFanBecause most Macs are smaller than pcs that I can understand BUT it has about 4 times the memory.
If by "Macs" you mean iPods...
by BeatleMegaFan - 10/12/07 9:17 PM In reply to: I can see where you are comming from by lloyd877What does Macs and PCs have to do with this? Compatibility? I may have your opinion wrong, but I see your answer as iPods may be thinner and smaller compared to other branded Mp3 players, but the other brands make up for it in storage and capabilities.
lloyd, did I interpret this right? Supposing I did, I can agree with this, though the Touch does have some unique capabilities to its arsenal. Safari, Contacts/Address Book, iCal, etc. are all some great Mac programs that have been optimizd for the iPhone and Touch. However, the Touch and iPhone only come in small, 8GB and 16GB flash models, which are too small for movie and TV lovers, but ideal for everyone else.
Also, from the reports that I have read this week, the Touch is starting to join with the iPhone crowd, meaning hackers have finally decided to "liberate it". As much as I love Mail, Stickies, Stocks, etc., I'm not too tempted to rig my Touch right now. I think that the Web Apps availability was a start for Apple though. Apple may give us Touch users some more programs in the future. Perhaps we could send a petition for Apple to sell us the programs through iTunes LOL. That would make them jump at it and make the Touch a bit more iPhone-ish. While the Archos may have a great deal of strengths on the Touch, it's hard to compare them to the iPhone. But, others may disagree.
They're all great.
-BMF
yes you did
by lloyd877 - 10/14/07 1:24 PM In reply to: If by "Macs" you mean iPods... by BeatleMegaFanIt kind of means the less the features the less the space to take up and that fits these two products very well format is a huge role in this too.
You seem to understand 605 capabilities
by zoloftdan - 10/19/07 9:08 PM In reply to: archos 605!!!!!!!!!!!! by jcdj.acidI want 50/100 movies in my pocket. I have DirTV and a Dirtvdvr loaded with movies. Can I upload these movies thru the Dirtv DVT usb to the Archos while in the docking station? I'm having a hard time getting an answer here. I want to by, but not only download movies for 3.99. If I could upload what is on my Dir TV DVR, wow. Can I?
Archos V.S. Touch Lets think about this.
by URBANLITE - 11/9/07 3:34 PM In reply to: archos 605!!!!!!!!!!!! by jcdj.acidOK I don't think that Archos 605 v.s. iTouch is even fair. Sorry to all you Apple fans but the touch just isn't in the same league as the Archos 605. Even with the max amount of memory the iTouch allows it doesn't come close to the Archos's minimum and the fact that the Archos can be a camcorder or a DVR station is just a bonus. The only thing I can give to the iTouch is the iTunes capability and even that is soon going to be useless as soon as the Archos content portal offers music. The only thing that I personally think the iTouch will always have on the Archos is the size but for all the feature's that the Archos offers who cares. But I have to say one last thing if you don't need the extra features and extra space of the Archos by all means get the touch.
Archos 605 isas good as iPod!
by saramander - 1/16/08 11:40 AM In reply to: Archos 605 wins hands down by lauroy8I've read all the reviews, I've read all the details, I've read all the cons, all the pros and I've ordered the Archos 605 Wifi!
Overall I think it's a great product! And I don't know any other PVP that can actually record directly from the TV! Though you'd have to dish out the extra $100 (which I did, but hopefully, it's worth it)
But that's another thing which made me hesitate in buying the Archos 605, all the extra dosh I have to spend on getting the full extent of the Player.
Speaking of spending more and more money 
do I have to consider getting a case? I Know a case comes with the pack but is it really useful or completely useless?
and Also, I was really really dissapointed with the battery life and I want to get a battery extender or pack or whatever you call it, but it's really expensive so I'm going to get a cheaper custom one, but can only find one for the Gen 4 series, so....before, lauroy8 said that the Gen 4 docking stat was compatible with the 605 but was wandering was everything for the Gen 4 series compatible with the Gen 5?
Please reply!!
Thx
You DEFINITELY made the right choice
by snorky1773 - 1/16/08 12:20 PM In reply to: Archos 605 isas good as iPod! by saramanderI use my Archos everyday. I watch DVDS on it, record TV, record stuff off sirius and TONS more. It is THE BEST DEVICE I OWN and I own A LOT.
Make sure you buy the Cinema plug-in and the web plug-in.
The 604 Dock should work with the 605, mine did... but I sold it to get the 605 because of the Qwerty remote.
Enjoy the Archos!!!
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