Office & productivity software: Poll: Which word-processing software do you use?
- 10/3/07 4:58 PM
Poll: Which word-processing software do you use?
by Lee Koo (ADMIN) - 10/3/07 4:58 PM
Which word-processing software do you use?
Apple iWork or AppleWorks (How do you like it?)
Corel WordPerfect (How do you like it?)
Google Docs (How do you like it?)
Lotus Symphony Documents (How do you like it?)
Microsoft Word (How do you like it?)
OpenOffice (How do you like it?)
Sun StarOffice (How do you like it?)
ThinkFree (How do you like it?)
Zoho (How do you like it?)
Other (What is it?)
How I like MS Word isn't very relevant
by avanabs - 10/3/07 6:57 PM In reply to: Poll: Which word-processing software do you use? by Lee Koo (ADMIN)
With over 83% of the technical world using it (and far more than that of the consumer and office automation world), it's a MONOPOLY! I simply have to use what my customers and colleagues all over the world use.
So far, none of the alternatives I've tried even come close to "compatible"...and if they ever did, MS would simply change the rules...that's the privilege of a MONOPOLY vs a standard.
Even the likes of IBM hasn't been able to disrupt the MS MONOPOLY, nor the US government, nor the collective governments of Europe, so a few community projects have absolutely no chance.
there's always a chance...
by austinjam76 - 10/3/07 7:09 PM In reply to: How I like MS Word isn't very relevant by avanabsIf everyone takes a defeatest attitude towards which programs they use, and do not explore and support other options, then yes, there is no chance for change. However, if users actually attempt to learn a new program (which I'm sorry, but most Americans will NOT do) then it is possible to provide feedback to a development community and assist in the building of compatible and superior software.
The cost of MS Office alone should be enough to have users attempt to switch to other alternatives. I've used Open/Neo Office, iWork '08, Zoho, and the Google alternatives, and each have their high points and low points. With a little support, testing and most importantly, feedback, it is possible for these applications to mature and flourish in a world where choice should be readily available.
...maybe for some
by Charlie J - 10/3/07 8:33 PM In reply to: there's always a chance... by austinjam76I don't find Microsoft or it's programs offensive but don't close my mind to open-source. I use some free software, but for the major stuff, I don't mind paying for the real thing. I tried to use openoffice and could never get it to work on my computer, which is new. Maybe it was Vista. I don't know. But I do know that I have never had any major problems that Microsoft wouldn't try to help me solve and, in most cases, solve. Plus, anyone who is paying retail for any of their stuff just isn't paying attention.
vista open fofice
by lifelonglego - 10/4/07 2:07 PM In reply to: ...maybe for some by Charlie JI am using vista and I (mistakenly) put open office on ti. it ran as well as opencrap could but I couldn't stand it so I removed it
Who the heck
by jsjag1990 - 10/4/07 4:10 PM In reply to: ...maybe for some by Charlie JWho the heck pays MS to solve anything? You must have some extra $$$ and you don't know what to do with it.
BTW.....I would lay my money down that it was Vista. I am looking at purchasing another computer but will not buy a box with Vista installed on it. I know all the programs I paid for have drivers that work with XP but Vista....who knows?
Drivers with Vista, in reply to Who the Heck
by Viejito11 - 10/4/07 5:41 PM In reply to: Who the heck by jsjag1990Don't be fooled. Your drivers will not work with Vista; it happened to me. Some of your peripherals will not have Vista drivers. The manufacturers of your cameras, MP3 players, external hard drives, ZIP drives, and whatever else you can think of, will say that they do not support your model any longer and that they are not planning to write drivers for them. If you want to use them with Vista, you will have to buy the new models. And if you have any old software that you would like to continue using, it will not work with Vista.
If you buy a machine with Vista and then want to get rid of your preinstalled Vista and install XP instead, you will not find the XP drivers for your components. The manufacturer of your computer will first tell you that if you buy XP on your own, you can download the drivers from their Web site, but after you buy XP they will say they have no XP drivers for your model, that your particular model was designed for Vista. Toshiba did this to me. The made me spend money in Windows XP and Nero, and then they told me they could not help me, that this machine was not made for XP and they had no drivers for it.
I am waiting for the new OS-X (10.5) to get a Mac.
Drivers with Vista
by mglatfelter - 10/6/07 1:20 AM In reply to: Drivers with Vista, in reply to Who the Heck by Viejito11It is obvious that you do not like Microsoft, which is your right. However, you should not come in here pretending to be a PC user having trouble with Vista. I use Vista on my machine. All the drivers work fine. I had to update drivers from legacy peripherals, but they work. Every that is new has bugs that need to be worked out. Even Macs have their problems. The school where I work has switched 100% to PC because they are less expensive and have fewer problems. Even the teachers who have used Macs for years have had to admit the advantages of the PC. That does not mean that Mac is not good. There are certain programs and peripherals which are far superior. For me, Microsoft Word runs circles around Appleworks and is easier to use. This is an honest assessment since I used Appleworks for years even when Appleworks was being made for PC's as well as Macs. The two programs are simply not completely compatible.
Drivers with Vista
by Viejito11 - 10/11/07 10:44 PM In reply to: Drivers with Vista by mglatfelterI am sorry to have given you the wrong impression. It is not that I don't like Microsoft. I like Windows XP and use it every day, and I like it very much, and Windows XP is also Microsoft.
The problem with Vista is that it is so incompatible with everything that used to work with XP. Here are the concrete examples:
1) My digital camera Nikon Coolpix 8700 does not have a driver for Vista. Nikon says they are not going to write a driver for that camera. If I want to use a camera with my Vista, I have to buy a new model.
2) My Zip drive does not have a driver for Vista. The manufacturer will not write a driver for this model. If I want to use a Zip drive, I have to buy a new one. I don't even know if the Zip drives still exist. Probably I will have to transfer all my Zip disks to flash drives.
3) My card readers have no drivers for Vista. The manufacturers don't have drivers for these models. If I want to use a card reader, I will have to buy a new one.
4) My MP3 player, a 40 GB Zen Nomad Creative, which is a wonderful MP3 player and works perfectly, does not have a driver for Vista. The manufacturer will not write a driver for this model. If I want to use an MP3 player and synchronize it with Vista, i need to buy a new model.
5) My Atomic Clock cannot install correctly in Vista. The ActiveX controls don't register, even though the files are in the Windows System32 directory.
6) My QuickVerse Bible program cannot install correctly in Vista. The ActiveX controls don't register, even though the files are there.
7) My font editor does not register, even though the files are there.
8) The flash drives I bought recently, that had the inscription "Works with Vista", don't work properly with Vista. Some of the capabilities are there, but not all.
And I could list four or five other programs that don't work with Vista.
Nothing like this happened with Windows XP: yes, Microsoft Windows XP. Everything worked perfectly. I did not complain about XP, even though it was Microsoft, and that is because I have nothing particular against Microsoft.
I also use Microsoft Office because it is the one that works better with Unicode for foreign languages. I used to work exclusively with WordPerfect, but it never caught up with Unicode, even though Corel claims that the new WordPerfect X3 works with Unicode; a lot of people in the users' forums say it still cannot handle Unicode. This is why I have not gone back to WordPerfect. I am staying with MS Word and I am very happy with it. Open Office works well with Unicode, but it is not as agile as MS Word. I have both installed on my computer and sometimes play with one and then the other, but I have not been convinced enough to change yet.
I don't have shares in any of these companies. If Microsoft gives me a good product, I use it. I have nothing against it. The proof is that I have been using a lot of Microsoft programs in the past and present. If they have a lion share of the market, it is OK with me, because they did not get there by putting a gun on anybody's head. They are good, hard-working businessmen that know how to market their product. It is not a sin to earn money: let them earn as much as they want and as much as they can. But give me a product that works.
Vista, Toshiba and Closed standards
by norbiy - 10/8/07 10:43 AM In reply to: Drivers with Vista, in reply to Who the Heck by Viejito11These messages convince me all the more that my next machine is most likely going to be Linux in some flavor. Since I have only used Word sporadically, and the driver issues with Vista have pretty much convinced me never to touch another MS product for as long as I can manage to avoid it, I have found my initial experience with OpenOffice fairly painless. Then again, I've somehow managed to convince those I work with to stick to formats and standards that keep them away from the proprietary and rapacious mindset that seems to have infected MS beyond redemption. The only thing worse that I've found on this score are Toshiba DVD players, which leave me with Toshiba also crossed off my list for any future acquisitions of hardware.
There are alternatives. I used WordPerfect for years before this, largely because I found it less painful to use than Word or Office, it rarely gave me trouble and to my knowledge never created any huge security holes in my system. Then again, I started using WordPerfect somewhere around the time that AT-clones were considered bleeding edge.
Spot on, I want choice
by Dango517 - 10/4/07 12:05 AM In reply to: there's always a chance... by austinjam76and a better price but to bad Windows didn't become the "standard". If it had the compatibility issues would have went away. On the other hand, is it too soon for standardization? Will they restrict innovation on a believe it or not, new technology. We are still only in the dawn of the computer age. Despite our progress we are still in the Model T phase of computing.
ms office
by lifelonglego - 10/4/07 2:04 PM In reply to: there's always a chance... by austinjam76I have used all of the others and they all suck. Iv'e been using ms office ll my life and the new 07 version is the best it is much faster and more openly accesible. there is no defeatist stance it is a victoriuos stance becuse I am priviledged enough to have ms office.
PS: open office you suck
PPS: staroffice, corel stuff, and more you all suck
To Using MS all my life
by jsjag1990 - 10/5/07 4:15 AM In reply to: ms office by lifelonglegoJust because you've done something the same "all your life" doesn't mean it is the correct way. Like the man that went to work for 20 years, taking the same way, driving 50 miles. Then after retiring he found out that in his fifth year of work they made a new by-pass, a straight path to his place of work ans was only 35 miles. He wasted all those miles because he did "the same thing all his life".
There have been studies and the great percentage of people only use Word for the most simple word processing capabilities. So, much of what Word or Open Office, etc. can do is never utilized.
Just keep your "privilege" and never, ever change. I bet you use IE as your browser and feel "privileged."
Can your MS Office '07 do this?
by Charles F Adams - 10/5/07 10:52 AM In reply to: ms office by lifelonglegoWith my WP software, when I go to [ Recent Docs ] it gives me a reverse chronological list of the last 240 documents I have worked on, not just the last 4 or 10; Can you beloved MS -- whether 2000, '02, '03,... or even '07 do that?
Likewise, when I am working on the formatting of a complicated document, I can call up a 'Code Window' and directly edit either or both the text or the codes; can you MS do that?
Can your version of MS '07 automatically prepare legal citations and similar legal formatting -- automatically? Mine can!
Yes, I am objective, I can say ONE good thing about Word: why a footnote or endnote is attached to a word, when the mouseOver hovers over the work or footnote number in the text, the who footnote is displayed in a popup window; sadly, OpenOffice only displays the last 60 to 80 characters of that footnote/endnote. For this Word feature, as old as Word 2000 I would almost switch back to Word -- were I not moving forward, not backward, to the iWorks. (But if i REALLY had my choice,-- and all others would do the same -- I would move on to NetObjects FUSION 10.0 because it now supports nPower 10.0.
CharlesTheElder
Office Suite Question
by rgismondi - 10/5/07 8:47 PM In reply to: ms office by lifelonglegoDoes Office 2007 have a spell checker?
Have you used it?
~~Robert
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