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Community Newsletter: Q&A: I got scammed on eBay, what can I do now?

by Lee Koo (ADMIN) Moderator - 9/28/07 3:22 PM
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what I do

by RParks1031 - 9/16/07 6:40 AM In reply to: I got scammed on eBay, what can I do now? by Lee Koo (ADMIN) Moderator

When I buy anything on E-Bay I make sure I pay by Credit card. That adds a extra layer of security against fraud. If you do not get what is advertised or anything not shipped then you can report it to them too.

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Ebay and paypal have been very good

by slimsss2 - 9/16/07 9:58 AM In reply to: I got scammed on eBay, what can I do now? by Lee Koo (ADMIN) Moderator

I have (knock on wood) had no problems over the years. I have recieved many spoofs and 2nd offers. The spoofs I have forwarded to e-bay and paypal, 2nd chance offers i have went directly to the seller to find that they were in fact spoofs. I too am sorry you have had this bad expierence,,I have purchased Ipods,cell phone accessories,and one $18,000.00 truck.i always contact the seller with some kind of a question,, if i get a response and everything else looks good i continue with the bids,, I especially like to place things in want on the 'watch' list while i communicate with the seller,, i also enjoy 'sniping' at the last moment..between ebay and paypal my few problems have been resolved in a timely manner..

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LOL

by froasier - 9/16/07 1:17 PM In reply to: I got scammed on eBay, what can I do now? by Lee Koo (ADMIN) Moderator

My advice for the future would be: Don't cancel a resolution until it is, well... resolved. Cheers.

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Power Sellers

by generalverduin - 9/16/07 3:00 PM In reply to: I got scammed on eBay, what can I do now? by Lee Koo (ADMIN) Moderator

Hope you get to read this, because this is probably the best possible tip anyone could ever give you. I dont know how to get your money back unfortunately, because i was going to tell you to do what you already did. But for future reference, try to buy only from powersellers.

The main reason is because they are powersellers for one reason, they rarely do something wrong, and they probably do it for a living. So screwing up would be terrible for them. Anyway, other then that, thats the only real way to give a near perfect gaurantee of success on purchases from ebay.

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Paypal

by tortmanus - 9/16/07 7:29 PM In reply to: I got scammed on eBay, what can I do now? by Lee Koo (ADMIN) Moderator

Isn't your paypal account tied to a credit card? You may be able to dispute the charge with the credit card. You also could take the seller and/or paypal to small claims court. If you live in California the small claims limit is $7,500.00. You definitely would get a judgment against the seller. I would threaten paypal with a small claims action. Most likely you will be able to get a judgment against paypal because there is no way they will spend the money to have a representative from paypal appear in court! Very easy to do once they are served with the complaint.

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eBay seller has your money and won't send you the goods

by metajohn - 9/16/07 8:59 PM In reply to: I got scammed on eBay, what can I do now? by Lee Koo (ADMIN) Moderator

Well $200 is not enough to get real excited about, but its two little to just ignore. I would chose one of these two options:

1) you have a phone number(and a Name) so you can see what town and county this "perp" lives in. Contact the municipal and county police and swear out a complaint against the dude for false advertising, and misdemeanor theft. Go to your POST OFFICE and file a complaint for Felony Wire-Fraud. It may come to nothing or he may decide to "clear this up" and do the right thing.

2) put out a contract "hit" on the dude. Should cost about $15,000 for a professional job.

Sincerely -- MetaJohn

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Answer about ebay

by tamara.lee - 9/16/07 11:11 PM In reply to: I got scammed on eBay, what can I do now? by Lee Koo (ADMIN) Moderator

Hi Jim, I had a problem like that about a year ago and i believed that all paopla where good too. I didn't get the problem fixed, although i did do everything i could. I guess we learn from our mistakes. On how to avoid this happening again, you can check their ebay profile. Make sure they have good feedback. Also check how many items they have sold. That lets you know how trust worthy they are. I can't promise it won't happen again, but these tips might help.
Cheers Tamara

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HI

by xulijie2000 - 9/17/07 12:58 AM In reply to: I got scammed on eBay, what can I do now? by Lee Koo (ADMIN) Moderator

Maybe you can call the police.

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avoid paying through paypal

by atmarte - 9/17/07 2:47 AM In reply to: I got scammed on eBay, what can I do now? by Lee Koo (ADMIN) Moderator

I think meeting the person and seeing the merchandise if it is in good condition is a better idea rather than paying through the internet. It's true that paying through the internet is more convenient but look, it also depends on the value that you are purchasing.

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Remember: eBay and PayPal protect sellers over buyers

by Drezen - 9/17/07 3:35 AM In reply to: I got scammed on eBay, what can I do now? by Lee Koo (ADMIN) Moderator

Hi Jim, to answer your question: I'm afraid you've almost certainly seen the last of your money. It's a lesson I learned the hard way myself and I'll outline it here, as well as how easy it is for high volume sellers to hide behind eBay and PayPal's protection policies.

Some time ago, I was in the process of making a final upgrade to my PC and I was in the market for an Athlon XP 3200+ CPU. I found several on eBay but one was slightly cheaper than the others, even counting the cost of shipping from the US to Europe. The seller, who's name I won't mention here, had well over 32,000 positive feedback and I'd actually bought some RAM from them previously so I had no qualms about buying the processor and sent my payment immediately, via PayPal.

I received an email fairly promptly from the seller, saying thanks for paying and that "sometimes our items can be held up in customs, so please allow 28 working days for delivery". So I waited and after a few weeks I sent them an email enquiring about it and was reassured that "even if the item is lost, it is insured so don't worry". 28 days came and went and then I started emailing them for the insurance form and no reply came. After a few days of increasingly strongly worded emails I phoned PayPal who said that the seller had probably said to wait 28 working days so that my right to make a PayPal claim and retrieve my payment would have expired. I tried to make a claim through eBay's buyer protection scheme and after faxing dozens of pages of correspondence and proof of payment was completely ignored. I'll say it plainly here: eBay's own payment protection is worse than useless.

So, finally giving up hope of getting my $160 back I submitted some scathing negative feedback, only for the seller to leave me negative feedback in kind and comment on my feedback "The item is insured, we can work it out so why the neg!?" This a full three months after my payment and all correspondence regarding insurance, replacement or reimbursement completely ignored! Interestingly, I was contacted by several other people who'd been stiffed in the same manner by this seller, or weren't sure whether they should make their claims early or trust the seller. Looking deeper into the seller's feedback profile, it was obvious that although they processed 3-4000 positive transations every month, there were about 1-200 buyers in that time whose items went missing and were hung out to dry. Because eBay favour the protection of sellers over buyers, it's all too easy for sellers to cover their tracks by taking advantage of the feedback system in this way.

My confidence in eBay was badly shaken and I now use it far, far less frequently than before. I won't buy items for more than about $60 and I avoid sellers with huge feedback numbers like the plague, because I now know that a very high feedback rating can hide a multidude of sins.

My advice to all eBay buyers is this: shoot first, ask questions later. If you put in a PayPal claim, you have the power to withold your money from the seller and you can always drop the claim if the item turns up. If you leave it too late, the seller is free to laugh all the way to the bank.

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Find him

by laneyjj - 9/17/07 3:57 AM In reply to: I got scammed on eBay, what can I do now? by Lee Koo (ADMIN) Moderator

If you're really ticked, use a reverse phone number directory and find his physical address. The next time you call him, just ask him if that's his right address. Intonation is key. You could either give him the impression that you and your cousin Guido may come and collect the money, or make up some song and dance about filing an FBI fraud report online since this is technically interstate commerce. Either way, removing some of his anonimity may make him more responsive.

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No iPod?! :(

by cavu - 9/17/07 3:58 AM In reply to: I got scammed on eBay, what can I do now? by Lee Koo (ADMIN) Moderator

If you paid by credit card through PayPal, call your credit card company and cancel the payment!! This is one very good reason for using your credit card as the source of funds for PayPal ... PayPal can get pretty weird and deny your claim for no apparent good reason - been there, done that, have the T-shirt! If you funded your payment with cash, you are SOL. You could, however, file a claim in small claims court and get a judgment against the seller.

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Ebay Dispute Option

by mihalovits - 9/17/07 4:02 AM In reply to: I got scammed on eBay, what can I do now? by Lee Koo (ADMIN) Moderator

Ebay has a dispute option. After this long, I don't know how much help they could be, but you can try.

Another option is to contact your local postmaster. If you sent a check via US Mail, they may consider it mail fraud.

Finally, you should start any action against people like this no later than a month after the bid and once started, keep going until you have your product or your money back.

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Delivery Woes

by Rickybee - 9/17/07 5:34 AM In reply to: I got scammed on eBay, what can I do now? by Lee Koo (ADMIN) Moderator

I have bought hundreds of items on eBay and so far the only problems I have ever had is with the delivery. Your story about the iPod prompted me to tell you about mine to show you it isn't always the sellers fault.
Several months ago I bought 20 iPods (returns) on eBay and he shipped them via USPS. It did have a tracking number so I was confused when it said it had been delivered but I hadn't received them. I was just beginning to sweat when I got a phone call from someone about 5 miles away saying they had a package addressed to me! I went over and sure enough it was them, our addresses were not similar, neither were our names.
I was lucky this time but it could so easily have turned out badly. All you can do is check the sellers references, avoid sellers that don't use tracking and get insurance on high dollar items.

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eBay iPod non-delivery

by CyMoler - 9/17/07 6:55 AM In reply to: I got scammed on eBay, what can I do now? by Lee Koo (ADMIN) Moderator

Unfortunately you are outside the eBay, Paypal, and credit card "resolution" periods so you will have to resort to other measures.

Something similar happened to me and what worked for me was to contact the Attorney General's Office of the state that the person you're dealing with lives in. The one I contacted (NE) actually had a website where I could submit a complaint and I was able to fax them all the emails with the seller. They contacted the seller on my behalf and boy did that get his attention. We then worked out a settlement.

Good Luck.
Cy Moler

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