O yeah! I bought a new HP Pavilion last summer, Pentium dual core, 2GB of RAM, 250 GB HDD(SATA), and lots of other goodies under the hood. The only downside of the deal was the OS:XP Media Center:(
After two or three months of of running it and cleaning it from all the preinstalled crap, I did a routine update for the OS (wasn't the first update for this machine). Of course the machine wanted restart. After that never started up again! It wasn't able to load the OS again. I considered myself lucky for burning my recovery dvd's couple of weeks earlier. Bad luck again! At my first atempt I was able to run the first and second recovery disc, but not the third one...so I called HP customer (un)support. The person from the other end of the line started to ask me a whole bunch of stupid questions, like "is my PC plugged in", or "are all my cables in the right places" and so on...After this I was asked to try to run again the recovery. This time it stopped after the first disc. So I decided to deal with this in my own terms: I dusted off my old XP Pro disc with SP1, I installed one more HDD (an IDE because there's no way of loading RAID drivers at setup on this machine-doesn't have a Floppy Drive). Ever since,the machine is up and running with updates installed and no problems. I won't call HP customer support again for sure, and I won't change this OS(XP Pro)for a long time.
It's been several years, but I ordered my second Micron pc and they made me wait for windows me to be released. WELL!!! It was nothing but trouble! After XP was released, automatic updates were running and the system crashed. Nothing could revive it, so a friend installed 2000pro, retrieved my files to cd, and I did a clean install of xp. I was not happy, but all I lost was time-and an 11x17 scanner that was not compatible with xp. We have a new hP touchscreen tablet with vista, but I'm leaving the other 4 alone with xp! Better the devil you know.....
No, never had a problem with updates, but then I am not too sure that I would know a "critical" update if I saw one!
catchingsam
I have had very good luck with most windows updates! I have had no problems with XP and a minor Disruptive Shutdown with Vista. When I had windows ME, I had to send my computer into a friends hands to fix it. After that I had Windows 2000, and had no problems.
I've never had a problem with Windows update and some time ago I heeded Bob Proffitt and never installed drivers offered by Microsoft.
So far so good! Ann
I have a machine purchased from an acquaintaince which had WindowsXP home installed and reregistered in my name. On installing SP2 I did the backup as requested however at the end of the install I tried to bring up the system and the windows config file could not be located; I retried with backup as requested, old diskette it didnt work. Suggested I reboot with install disk in, I doon't have it just a system with a faster CPU and more memory than the machine I run 98 on.
I have had a nightmare. It started with the automatic updates. I didn't recieve them an contacted windows. Microsoft would not let me download automatically, Tried to sign up an kept getting error messages an when I did get it to work the scan page took me to another error page . Got that fixed an lost my java scripting. got that fixed an then I was getting a securemote notification failed error to contact my system admin.windows took me thru several config utility changes.then was getting ImUtils2.dll errors,got that fixed then was getting liveone care error messages. turns out that liveone care was running 2 programs at once. finally called windows direct an was told had to pay with credit card $75.00 for live tech help. I about fell over. That was 3 months ago. Now Everything I download I get an icon on my windows page. I have spoke to several online tech help people an every time I talk with some one new I get 1 issue cleared up an get 3 new issues to start going wrong. I have an emachine that is only 2yrs old. I have plenty of space to save files to use . I do have an download excelerator program but I have had that program from the day I started with this machine. way before all this trouble started. I do have at least 2 protection programs for all the newest nasties in the tech world. I dont know what else to do I get nowhere with windows company an cant afford the geek squad to come over for tea an crumpets. (hahaha) I have windows xp emachine, model # T5026 I do have a hp printer conected to the emachine which caused another headache was on the phone for over 2 hours with that tech an he took my old files an bundled them off an started new files? at least thats what he told me he was doing. My computer an the printer were not making contact. It's funny every time I contacted either company they both told me it was my machines fault that their programs dont work I must have a virus an it turns out to be the companies fault. hp company told me that because I have mcafee program that I should contact mcafee an let them know that their program is stopping the hp from making contact with my emachine computer. I uninstalled the mcafee an tried to connect the hp printer an the printer would not install all the files to my machine. thats when I contacted hp for help with their printer. please help if anyone can? I dont know what else to do I have enough protection on this machine. I know thats not the problem. At this point I'm not loging on to my machine as much as I used to an I miss it. If I do log on I'm affraid to download anything, causing more Icons. My downloads do go directly to my files anymore automatically I have to manually send the file to my c:// drive. Please help if you can? I miss my machine.
Sorry everyone I got carried away with the problems part! I have windows xp, an emachine, model T5026, 512mb memory, microsoft factory installed, download excelerator program. I do have the hp printer installed now but am getting the icon everytime I download anything. please help!!! I give up on windows how do I switch to foxfire completely an would it bother my e-mail sight?
just before My Computer Closed down for the Night Microsoft updates started to download and said it would close the Computer when Finished, all well and good I thought it had happened many times before and I said to myself it is safe enough.
Next morning when I opened up I got a message called *NTDLR* I did not know what it was all about and I had to reinstall WinXp, so what happens with doing that ? I lost everything on My Computer, and I still cannot get an answer from Microsoft About the Problem.
Jock in Australia
one thing you might want to do is disable writeahead caching for your hard drive. some drives have megabytes of cache, and if that isn't "flushed" prior to a full shutdown then you will lose everything that was going to be written. seeing as how the last stuff to be written was updated system files... boom, corrupt files. >.< GG microsoft. Journalling file system time!
With some 2 or 3 auto updates, I could not boot win XP pro anymore afterwards. 'Some files were missing' or something like that.
I suspect the following
-these problems all happened after 'don't shutdown, important updates are to be made' (something like that, after a shutdown was clicked by me)
- if I answer Yes, win xp starts to update
- then, after the update, it shuts down
this shutdown probably is not as robust as a normal shutdown, and the computer is switched off by this procedure before all disk activity has stopped.
I never use the shutdown/kepp installing option anymore.
everytime i install critical updates on my machine DT stops working. I usually have to roll back. i just disable all updates on my computer now, and read /. or other sites to ensure that my computer is secure from the latest threats.
and adware protection, and all the other free and very good tools out there to prevent "threats" why does anyone need MS to issue dire warnings and 'critical" updates and patches?
It seems to me that the updates cause more problems than they're worth.
Frankly, if I had a program that installed huge amounts of stuff on my computer and often caused the entire system to go belly up as an end result, I'd be removing it quickly and permanently. And yet I see people reinstalling everything and then trying to run the updates again, with the same results...
Am I missing something here? Are we all?
When SR-2 was loaded we noticed that I couldn't upload messages and some web sites didn't work correctly. Norton seemed to refuse to send messages. After calling Symantec, Microsoft, HP, Linksys and the Geeks (Linksys service provider) nothing worked. One day I explained to a technition at Schwab the problem with trying to download some financial data. He said no problem download DRTCP021.exe run it and set the MTU (Message Transmission Units) to a lower number than the default TCP 1300 or so bytes. I settled on 1000 bytes and it worked fine. Seems that Microsoft in order to combat virus hacks had stipulated that no gaps could occur in a down load and the older router couldn't keep up with that requirement. Its funny that a Charles Schwab tech in Phoenix had the answer that no one else had.
Lee - Sunnyvale
My wife's perfectly legitimate computer was hijacked by Microsoft and held for ransom. The claimed the operating system supplied with the computer was pirated. Hello Dell? No amount of talking to them would resolve the situation, so I finally paid their $186+/- ransom and then still had to get help to undo the abusive threatening messages they had popping up.
If XP is running fine - there is no reason to try to get updates. Avoid exposing your computer to Microsoft.
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