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Windows XP: Poll: Has installing a Windows critical update ever caused problems for you
- 9/7/07 3:18 PM
Yes I agree, thankfully>
by tallin - 9/7/07 8:49 PM In reply to: YES - Almost every time!!! by sandeep0015When I had my Laptop built I opted for Windows XP SP/2. I was advised that Laptops and Vista do not sit at the same table!
Sorry you are having problems 'Sandeep1105' Can you roll back to XP?
Has caused me wifi problems
by dfichtner - 9/7/07 9:12 PM In reply to: Poll: Has installing a Windows critical update ever caused problems for you by Lee Koo (ADMIN)
Weekly updates from Microsoft have killed the wifi in my HP DV2000 Notebook on more than one occasion. I have found that if I uninstall the driver, and reinstall a week later, the problem goes away.
I'm not sure if it's Microsoft discovering this incompatibility and reworking the update, or if they're just bad installs. Kind of an odd thing.
I have no idea what you are talking about, I use Mac OS X
by Krioni - 9/7/07 9:19 PM In reply to: Poll: Has installing a Windows critical update ever caused problems for you by Lee Koo (ADMIN)
Also, I wait a week or two to find out if the update did anything that seems particularly bad. For example, the iTunes (version 2? somewhere around there) update about 5 years ago that could wipe a hard drive clean because they didn't escape spaces in the drive name properly. 
It's the "critical" part that makes me say "huh?" There has been no update for Mac OS X for which you were in serious danger if you delayed to install. Vulnerabilities, yes. Dangerous exploits, no. And, as far as the harder-to-exploit versus low-market-share debate, I think to be honest it is a combination. It IS harder to write an exploit for Mac OS X AND you would get less potential revenue from hacking them just because your yield would be lower. Nevertheless, the hackers still motivated by reputation would be pleased to make the first serious Mac OS X worm/virus. Don't talk to me about Trojan horses - those are fairly trivial for any operating system that has a non-high-security user as its target market. Preventing Trojan horses is next to impossible, and writing them for any consumer operating system is trivial. Here's one: "Hey, foolish friend: toss your Documents folder into the Trash/Recycling Bin and then empty it." Side issue: Why call it the recycling bin? Who collects the files you put in there and reuses them? Was Microsoft trying to encourage environmentally responsible thinking?
Windows XP, SP 2 caused nearly 200 stop errors!
by richande - 9/7/07 9:27 PM In reply to: Poll: Has installing a Windows critical update ever caused problems for you by Lee Koo (ADMIN)
I downloaded sp2 and almost immediately after installing it the stop errors started. I had as many as 12 one day! The pc (dell) was still under warranty & Dell agreed to replace my hard drive. 2 days later a tech showed up & installed the new drive, with an "Image" of what it should be, when booted it took off installing, very slick. Shortly after that Microsoft was offering a cd of sp2. I ordered it, but it took me 7 months to work up the courage to install it! I finally did and it went like clockwork, & no problems with any update since!
Rich
Never
by Ed-duh-win - 9/7/07 10:06 PM In reply to: Poll: Has installing a Windows critical update ever caused problems for you by Lee Koo (ADMIN)
If you know what you are doing, and pay slight bit of attention to security, you won't have any problems.
Update to Media Player 11 caused Windows not to load
by j_brian_lee - 9/8/07 12:21 AM In reply to: Poll: Has installing a Windows critical update ever caused problems for you by Lee Koo (ADMIN)
I purchased a new Gateway desktop machine early this year, with XP installed. I allowed Media Player to update to version 11 and all was fine for a time. A few weeks later there was an automatic update to Media Player and I was asked to reboot after installation. At this point I got a message that Windows could not load due to a damaged or missing file. The file was not named. After several failed attempts I had to use the provided rescue disc. This allowed me to protect my data files but I had to spend several hours reinstalling programmes.
Earlier, I had a similar problem with a Toshiba laptop although on this occasion the update was a general one to XP. Unfortunately the Toshiba rescue disk does not allow protection of user data.
Windows Media Player 11 & IE7 had problems
by darclew3 - 9/8/07 1:22 AM In reply to: Update to Media Player 11 caused Windows not to load by j_brian_leeI didn't like the way WMP11 looked nor how it had listed at the top so it was rolled back to 10. Have older Gateway, Select 750 and it worked okay with Internet ISP's but not with this Local Intranet. Had to back it up to IE6 SP2. Saw some else had a similar problem and saw some who had Vista use IE7 but I have Windows XP Home Edition.
IE7 showed errors on the lower left corner but there are no errors with IE6 SP2.
Yes, but now I Use Linux... =)
by Mendieta - 9/8/07 1:20 AM In reply to: Poll: Has installing a Windows critical update ever caused problems for you by Lee Koo (ADMIN)
Yes, some years ago. I updated my Win'98 SE Operating System, after rebooting the computer just simply didn't boot, the solution was booting again at the command line, MS-Dos prompt, console or whatever you want to name it, search for the update file and delete it, reboot again and voila, everything worked again.
Today I'm running Debian Linux, everything is almost perfect, never had a problem in three years since installation.
I'm not asking you to run Linux, just a note.
WHOOOT!!
by friedcrapsausage - 9/8/07 2:12 AM In reply to: Poll: Has installing a Windows critical update ever caused problems for you by Lee Koo (ADMIN)
i haven't had any problems with mine because i turned off auto updates... on my old computer it did nothing really usefull.
to make up for not getting the secrurity updates i also use AVG... which works better than the basic windows stuff anyway
yepyep yep
by mittens - 9/8/07 3:56 AM In reply to: WHOOOT!! by friedcrapsausagemy point, exactly. We turned them off a year or so ago and by golly I havent had a single problem. Ive even gone so far as to delete one now and then and when nothing goes dark, delete another. They take up huge huge amounts of space on the hard drive, and I still don't understand why everything MS sends out is 'critical'. Baby, if it's that bad and in that much need of upgrading, why is it still running so well??
From what Ive seen, we are all wasting a huge amount of time and effort and hard drive space over something that really doesnt do all that much. In a way its like the old joke about the man who went out every morning in his suburban neighborhood and blew a trumpet very loudly.
someone asked him, finally, why he did it.
'why,', he said, 'to keep the tigers away'.
There are no tigers here, his neighbor said...
"EXACTLY! See how well it works?"
yes ...created some serious errors
by neo_add - 9/8/07 3:24 AM In reply to: Poll: Has installing a Windows critical update ever caused problems for you by Lee Koo (ADMIN)
while installing some SP2 "critical" updates ...the computer froze and when i rebooted the thing it was really slow,IE stopped working and i had to system restore. Since then ive never tried installing windows updates.
when something isnt broken why fix it?
Has installing a Windows critical update ever caused problem
by Whitecougar - 9/8/07 4:26 AM In reply to: Poll: Has installing a Windows critical update ever caused problems for you by Lee Koo (ADMIN)
Although, I have had windows update cause problems usually with drivers for hardware devices not being compatible, I don't recall any critical updates causing problems.
Window Genuine "Advantage" causing major annoyance
by airwhale - 9/8/07 4:26 AM In reply to: Poll: Has installing a Windows critical update ever caused problems for you by Lee Koo (ADMIN)
I believe it was this last patch-Tuesday, where I get the email about A LOT of very critical patches - several remote execution flaws etc, really bad stuff they needed to patch.
So, as I always do, I get online to get them installed, only to find that what Microsoft thinks is EVEN MORE critical than their patches, is to first force me to install a new WGA!! I was in a hurry at the time, and I could find no way around this mess. Yes, I run a genuine Windows, it has validated correctly for YEARS, why would it suddenly morph into a pirated copy?
I really hate that WGA thing - I see NO advantage on my end of the transaction. I may understand their desire to validate my copy, but once they have done that - why the h*** do they need to check it AGAIN, even on a system that has not been changed hardware wise?
It just annoys me to no end... BAH! (Posting this from my Mac btw
what Im seeing here...
by mittens - 9/8/07 5:16 AM In reply to: Window Genuine "Advantage" causing major annoyance by airwhaleis a great deal of difficulty over something MS says you must have (with dire threats attached), but no clear explanation as to why. and most people that I've talked to who do not install the critical updates have very little trouble with their system. This could be the equivalent of cutting off the arm to stop the headache you don't have.
So, why do people keep on using them? "Maybe something might happen" isn't really much of a reason, is it.
Control vs security
by airwhale - 9/8/07 5:44 AM In reply to: what Im seeing here... by mittensI'm not questioning the need for applying patches - they ARE important, and without them, worms like "Code Red / NIMDA" may return to shut down service for basically every Internet user.
My main gripe is that MS sets their own need to control and monitor my legally bought copy of their software ABOVE my needs to secure my system and keep my data safe. This is just unacceptable behavior. Vista is even worse, I have been told, so I won't go there any time soon. I get that they need to sell licenses, that is their whole business. What I don't get is that every time I connect to them, they STILL don't trust me. "We just need to make sure for the 54th time that your copy is legal - we are sorry for the inconvenience. Please hold..."
peace,
Tormod
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