Buzz Out Loud Lounge: I Finally Disagreed with T,M... no V ... BBC iPlayer
I Finally Disagreed with T,M... no V ... BBC iPlayer
by deanduck - 8/17/07 5:04 AMAbout the BBC iPlayer... sorry if this was mentioned before I'm kinda behind.
But... the ISPs in the UK are complaining that they'll have to front the cost of the service because it's a p2p service... if I download something from the iPlayer it will partly be coming from another user's machine being served from their PC... using up that ISP's bandwidth to send the BBC's content.
And, annoyingly, the software will load every time I start my computer and serve files I've downloaded to anyone who wants it, which is what happens with Channel 4's 4OD service using Kontiki and it drives me crazy, I can only stop it by editing the registry, and each time I use 4OD again it changes it back. ARGH.
So. The BBC should be hosting their own files, not forcing the users to serve them and therefore adding much extra traffic to the ISPs networks, and the ISPs are right to complain about this.
Users don't have to watch the BBC
by Nicholas Buenk - 8/17/07 8:27 AM In reply to: I Finally Disagreed with T,M... no V ... BBC iPlayer by deanduckAnd are already paying for their internet connection and are paying for the bandwidth it uses if they run it already. If you stop companies from using p2p this way, you are going to slow down the progress of video on the internet, as p2p is a great equaliser for content providers, it allows anyone to get a video to multiple people very cheaply and there are far more uses for it than piracy. The solution, is for ISP's to get more bandwidth and charge people extra if necessary.
Extra taffic?
by acedtect
- 8/17/07 9:28 AM
In reply to: I Finally Disagreed with T,M... no V ... BBC iPlayer by deanduck
It's the same amount of traffic, just distributed. So it doesn't help the ISPs any to have it all from the BBC servers.
Sounds the exact same as BitTorrent to me, which arguably eases problems because of its distributed nature.
As for the program that won't let you shut it off, that's just wrong.
Tom
More traffic
by bol_reality_check - 8/20/07 8:32 AM In reply to: Extra taffic? by acedtect
It could be more traffic because if the client is running all the time, it would use more bandwidth than if it just streaming the show a viewer was watching. I can easily upload a few gigs on a popular torrent in a few hours and the BBC service would see similar numbers if a particular program was popular.
Technological progress means more traffic....
by Nicholas Buenk - 8/20/07 7:04 PM In reply to: More traffic by bol_reality_checkIt's supposed to increase.... as people find new applications for broadband.... This is the free market at work.
And good for ISP's or people wouldn't have a need to upgrade their speed and would be happy on the cheapest plans.
BBC Hosting the Files
by rosscbrown - 8/17/07 2:54 PM In reply to: I Finally Disagreed with T,M... no V ... BBC iPlayer by deanduckThe cool thing is that iPlayer is P2P - otherwise the BBC would die under the strain of serving TV quality video to thousands of suers simultaneously - it's not like YouTube, the files are in the 400MB to 1.2GB range.
Without the P2P delivery component, I'd guess the downloads would ultimately slower and less reliable I would immaginI would be interested to learn how the BBC populate the service, some clients must download direct from a BBC source, otherwise their would be nothing on the network.
I'd rather let the BBC keep their bandwidth for when they start streaming their family of stations simutanously with the over the air delivery.
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