Community Newsletter: Q&A: Disk boot failure: What is it and what can I do to resolve it
- 8/17/07 10:22 AM
One potential problem with "dusting", or "de-dusting"
by iMacUser - 8/4/07 5:05 AM In reply to: I had to "boot" my disk by drynoodlesdrynoodles,
Did dusting affect your spellchecker? Is your computer no longer able to check punctuation, capitalization, and grammar? If so, I'll stick with a dusty computer.
houston we have a hardware problem
by lucerne - 8/3/07 11:50 PM In reply to: Houston, we have a hardware problem by redking44Redking 44 seems to me,to hit it on the head, so far. when you factor in all that is all, variables seem to play on one another, so yes indeed it could be ambient temp affecting a simple process of scattering info to the right places. by all means acsess your warranty if it is still in effect. companies,not all but most relish expired fix it once,correctly fixes.Go for it girl. good luck, power to the people[consumers] m murphy.m@mchsi.com
temperature change is the likely culprit
by consaka - 8/4/07 10:29 AM In reply to: houston we have a hardware problem by lucerneI concur that heat is the likely culprit here. Not that it is getting too hot but when it boots up cold some variables are not quite right. I would start with the hard drive though since it is the easier to mess with. I build alot of computers and I have seen some strange behavior from hard drives that were partitioned and formated HOT(after they were running a while)being flaky when first booted. I have also seen the problem with bad electrical connections on the motherboard. Heat expands metal and other materials whether it is in the hard drive or elsewhere on the system. I would say your big problem is getting HP to quit screwing around with checkdisk and actually troubleshoot the problem.
Someone mentioned cleaning as a solution. Dust can generate two problems. One is insulating the heat in and impeding airflow such as can occur with heatsinks and fans. The other less known problem is dust around sensitive electrical connections can actually build up a static charge and during high humidity can actually aid in acting like a short. When cleaning be very careful to have the machine unplugged and not touch or bump cards and always wear a static strap. Contrary to what one person said you cannot mess your spell checker up by cleaning.. I prefer compressed air for cleaning.
bootup error
by frmtrkr - 8/4/07 6:52 AM In reply to: Houston, we have a hardware problem by redking44biggest bootup error is usually a virus or trojan in computer. regardless of how many anti virus programs you run, windows will attract them and trash your computer. the only remedy is a complete reformat
Circuit board on HP hard drive fails
by KevHead - 8/4/07 12:29 PM In reply to: Houston, we have a hardware problem by redking44I work for a school district and we have had problems with hard drives in HP desktops.
We have found that the problem usually lies with the circuit board on the hard drive. We have swapped out the board from a drive we know works with the one we are having problems with and 9 times out of 10 the problem is corrected.
The HP's we received seemed to show the drive problem within a month or so.
I hope this helps.
bad booting
by itdsuser1 - 8/5/07 7:08 AM In reply to: Houston, we have a hardware problem by redking44I seem to have the problem more with Sata HDD, simply wiggle the power and control connections to make sure they are working. I seem to do this every 2 weeks and away I go. The IDE drive works ok, so it can only be put down to cheap manufacturing techniquies
Let your words be few and to the point.
by laltuna - 8/8/07 7:35 PM In reply to: Houston, we have a hardware problem by redking44Excuse me but I have to tell you that your answer to this problem is nothing short of "GUESS WORK". You shouldn't even have bothered in trying to help Marlene when in reality your answer to her problem has no substance, it is extremelly general and it is confusing at its best. I have been experiencing the same problem for a couple of years now. I have read plenty of forums and seen many people change parts in their computers in vain. I even fell in the trap of replacing my hardrive for nothing. My hardrive wasn't even bad. Asus blames Maxtor. Maxtor in turns blames Asus and so on. Thanks anyways for traying to help but next time please try to stick to the point and let your words be few. Nothing personal by the way.
Solution
by sexywrench - 8/9/07 12:07 AM In reply to: Let your words be few and to the point. by laltunaNo offense, but your solution is...?
Briefly...
by redking44 - 8/9/07 1:23 AM In reply to: Let your words be few and to the point. by laltunaYou're welcome to disagree with me. And yes, I posted opinions formed from too little information about the problem and 37 years exprience working with computers, 12 of those building repairing and upgrading PCs (not all of them mine).
I admit I have no formal PC training but I do understand computers. I also understand divide and conquer. It's very hard for someone with one PC to isolate an obscure problem - much easier with a supply of spare parts. I'd love to tell of some of the obscure problems and solutions I've encountered but brevity forbids.
I still think it's hardware at the root of the problem. I hope it gets fixed (or already has), and I'd be interested to know how.
Understandable
by sexywrench - 8/9/07 3:41 PM In reply to: Briefly... by redking44As would I. For many individual offerings are just that. Individual, and may not correct the situation. Truly the best I agree with is take it back while it's under warranty. What I had disagreed with was your notion that the person wasn't trying to help. None of these solutions should be considered etched in stone for every make and model. Most accurate diagnosis are made when actually looking at it, like I believe he suggested. To which at that point would say to me take it back, if the length of his prose did not. Maybe I misunderstand you, but do you still suffer this issue with the boot disk?
Hmmm
by Joe03 - 8/9/07 4:22 PM In reply to: Understandable by sexywrenchNo offense but....go back to American Chopper forum.
disk boot failure
by richard100 - 7/29/07 1:13 AM In reply to: Disk boot failure: What is it and what can I do to resolve it by Lee Koo (ADMIN)
The same problem happend to me.The IDE connection from the mainboard to the harddisk (C)was not fasten correctly. I spent a lot of time with this probleme. Than I changed the connection ribbon and it was away.
The same problem is if your PC says: "No operating system found", this happens mostly with laptops.
So " Check the connections ! "
richard from Austria
Disk not recognized
by Frankrlr - 7/29/07 3:20 AM In reply to: Disk boot failure: What is it and what can I do to resolve it by Lee Koo (ADMIN)
From the intermittent failure to recognize the disk, I would think that there is a timing problem in the CMOS auto setting of the disk parameters. So I would go to CMOS setup and use the disk detection function to set the actual disk parameters.
Of course, if this is the real problem, recovery will not help you.
6 weeks of this.......
by Flirkann - 7/29/07 8:31 AM In reply to: Disk boot failure: What is it and what can I do to resolve it by Lee Koo (ADMIN)
Personally, I'd start by checking two things:
a - by temporarily using a different power supply - it may be dodgy and not supplying sufficient volts during cold boots.
b - disconnecting the hardrive, and plugging in another drive if you can - you may have a soon to be dead hard drive.
If both of these end up checking out OK, then the motherboard is probably faulty.
That said, you have mentioned that the system is about 2 months old and been like this most of it's life with you - so my advice is to either return the PC to the place of purchase for exchange/refund OR get HP on the line and DEMAND a replacement PC - this has all the hallmarks of an intermittent hardware fault.
Best Of Luck - Daniel
Disk Boot Error
by HRHaney - 7/29/07 12:02 PM In reply to: Disk boot failure: What is it and what can I do to resolve it by Lee Koo (ADMIN)
Only six weeks old - Take it back and exchange it for a new one. No excuse for this type of error on a new computer and possibly an indicator of many other problems waiting in the wings... (I would of returned it at the first indication of the problem).
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