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Desktops: Poll: How do you feel about the amount of software that comes on new PCs?

by Lee Koo (ADMIN) Moderator - 7/18/07 3:40 PM
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Poll: How do you feel about the amount of software that comes on new PCs?

by Lee Koo (ADMIN) Moderator - 7/18/07 3:40 PM

How do you feel about the amount of software that comes on new PCs?

-- I don't like it at all! (Reasons?)

-- It's overwhelming. I'd pay to have less. (How much would you pay more?)

-- It's a bit much, but if it shaves a few bucks off the price, it's worth it. (What's a few bucks to you?)

-- I like it. I'm glad it's there. (Give us some examples of the ones you used.)

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Just unpacked an Acer.

by R. Proffitt Moderator - 7/18/07 4:15 PM In reply to: Poll: How do you feel about the amount of software that comes on new PCs? by Lee Koo (ADMIN) Moderator

It had 2 titles I ejected so that wasn't bad at all.

1. Symantec's 3 month demo.
2. A Yahoo toolbar.

There wasn't much else so in my view this seems to be largely hype?

Bob

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Dell

by smithjc55 - 7/18/07 7:42 PM In reply to: Just unpacked an Acer. by R. Proffitt Moderator

I have just unpacked a Dell and then I have to register the DVD software. Of course the product code is in a Sans serif face so one cannot interpret the difference between figure ")" and Capital letter "O". Then there are fgure "1", Cap "I" and lowercase "L". Mind you its not only on new computers!!!

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Don't salt my meal without me okaying it!!

by jmarkross - 7/18/07 10:01 PM In reply to: Just unpacked an Acer. by R. Proffitt Moderator

I do not like the ad-crap on the drive of a new computer. I understand advertising...but put all that stuff on some shiny and gaily-decorated discs and I'll choose what I want. I respect that and I applaud it. Remember when VCR's began springing into action once a protected tape was crammed in? It had to be made idiot-proof, which means it IS NOW made for idiots. I like my machines to do what I tell them. I'll do the strategic thinking. I NEVER buy any free trial software that rears it's ugly head a hundred times to "remind" me of something. Ever get some stupid e-mail that tricks you--and then locks on your computer like a desperate carp? Make some "Computers for Dummies" and sell them as such.:P

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shovelware/crapware, whatever.

by Bob Dahlberg - 7/19/07 10:50 AM In reply to: Just unpacked an Acer. by R. Proffitt Moderator

I DON'T want Yahoo--I DON'T want AOL, etc, but being a non-expert, worry about what I might inadvertently erase if I just zap their files. Are there necessary common files that I might lose? What can I do to get rid of those pre-pacaged programs, yet not screw everything up?

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uninstall

by dena1936 - 7/22/07 11:21 AM In reply to: shovelware/crapware, whatever. by Bob Dahlberg

First look for an uninstall file. If it has none, go to Control Panel. Select "Add remove programs", then select what you want to uninstall. This is the safe way to remove programs that you don't want. You are strongly advised not to just delete the programs. An advanced user can then go to "run" type in regedit and do a search for the programs you just removed to make sure there isn't anything referring to the uninstalled programs. I always like to do a search on "my computer" for anything lingering there.

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Not that big of a deal...

by urluckyday - 7/19/07 11:29 AM In reply to: Just unpacked an Acer. by R. Proffitt Moderator

Honestly, I think that it is ridiculous for someone to say that they are switching to Macs or moving away from PC's just to get away from shovelware. It's not that big of a deal, and I think that people who really could use the trial software should have a chance to if they want. Sure, the manufacturers could make it a bit easier to get rid of all of the software, but it's really not that big of a deal otherwise. Just do whatever you want to clean it off, and you're done with it forever. Seriously, spending $1,000+ more to buy a Mac just because of some trial software is a bit outrageous unless you've just got money burning a hole in your pocket.
*Flame shields up*

Some things that I have used in the past that is considered trial:
1. Microsoft Office 2003 (60-Day trial)
2. McAfee Virus Shield (back in the Win98 days)
That's about all, but they were pretty helpful, and I even went on to get the full version of Office 2003, so in the end, it did more good than bad.

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... but still annoying

by nevido - 8/1/07 5:17 AM In reply to: Not that big of a deal... by urluckyday

I have several apps that can open Word docs but it always seemed to be the expired demo that launched first to open them. So I'd have to wait till it launched, then quit it, and then open with what I wanted to use. Very annoying. Especially after I weeded, only to have a Office demo launch from a backup drive!

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I wish it was all just hype.

by thellar - 7/19/07 6:06 PM In reply to: Just unpacked an Acer. by R. Proffitt Moderator

Unfortunately none of it is hype. My laptop came with so much junk it took me a over an hour to clear most of it off and I'm a computer geek. My parents just bought a brand new Core 2 Duo Toshiba Tecra and it literally came with so much preinstalled garbage that the computer took a couple minutes to start up or shut down. It was horrifying.

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Name names.

by R. Proffitt Moderator - 7/20/07 5:09 AM In reply to: I wish it was all just hype. by thellar

Share who did this to you.

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Here you go.

by thellar - 5/4/08 9:30 PM In reply to: Name names. by R. Proffitt Moderator

Toshiba is the one I know the most about and they preinstall a staggering amount of garbage programs. On the dell computers that I've seen it's exactly the same story. I don't know about hp, asus or the other main computer manufacturers but I wouldn't be surprised to find out that it's exactly the same story with those.

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OK if it's only a couple

by supermanx1a - 11/24/07 8:17 AM In reply to: Just unpacked an Acer. by R. Proffitt Moderator

I don't mind a couple of extra prgs as long as they are useful and usable. I open them all and discard almost 95 - 97% of them [time limit, previews, clubs to join, etc]. Sometimes you get a useful freeware similar to Post-It or something like that but it's rare.

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Pre-installed Software

by lonfjjr - 11/24/07 9:19 PM In reply to: Just unpacked an Acer. by R. Proffitt Moderator

Waste of money....would rather spend it on the hardware.

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If..

by jackintucson Moderator - 7/18/07 4:23 PM In reply to: Poll: How do you feel about the amount of software that comes on new PCs? by Lee Koo (ADMIN) Moderator

I bought new computers I would be livid at the amount. The manufacturers, however, have finally heard the public screaming and are starting to lessen the amount of "crapware" they pre-install.

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Depends...

by Willy - 7/18/07 5:02 PM In reply to: Poll: How do you feel about the amount of software that comes on new PCs? by Lee Koo (ADMIN) Moderator

While much is trialware or demos for a new user, when they find out they don't want it, and can't get rid 100% of it or too many steps to do so, then you find an angry user. Heck, if a new user can simply wipe it clean of any such s/w cand in few steps, you can have many a happy user. There's always one pgm. that seems to defy its removal, thus all the hard feeling. It should be a separate CD(s) to test any optional s/w rather than be pre-installed. After all, its the user that makes the final decision not the vendor. -----Willy :)

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