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PC hardware: Upgraded RAM 3GB -> 4GB, Vista Won't Load!

by phillydub - 7/13/07 5:33 PM
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Upgraded RAM 3GB -> 4GB, Vista Won't Load!

by phillydub - 7/13/07 5:33 PM

I recently purchased a computer with 2GB of ram. I purchased 2 additional 1GB sticks.

I installed them both, but my computer wouldn't start. After the BIOS screen windows never starts to load.

My computer works fine with 3GB, but as soon as I install the final stick of ram... same thing every time, comp won't start.

Any ideas? I'm using 32 bit vista.

Post 2 of 14

Does your motherboard support this much RAM

by Steven Haninger - 7/13/07 6:00 PM In reply to: Upgraded RAM 3GB -> 4GB, Vista Won't Load! by phillydub

I've seen problems were populating all RAM slots do this if the installed RAM exceeds what the MB will support. As well, with the 3 GBs installed does the OS show all of it? MB and RAM specs might help get a better answer.

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my system

by phillydub - 7/13/07 8:31 PM In reply to: Does your motherboard support this much RAM by Steven Haninger

My system specs:

Intel Core 2 CPU 6700 @ 2.66ghz
System Ram: 3070MB
System Type: 32 Bit operating system (vista premium)


anyone else have any ideas? i dont have much time to type right now i can give more details later. I am not sure of MB atm , just got the comp.

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It's bug city.

by R. Proffitt Moderator - 7/13/07 8:34 PM In reply to: my system by phillydub

Sorry but there are far too many reports of issues at 4GB. From BIOS to Windows. Try it with just 2GB until your machine's maker fesses up to why it bombs.

Bob

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I see a few problems

by Zensphere - 7/13/07 11:06 PM In reply to: Upgraded RAM 3GB -> 4GB, Vista Won't Load! by phillydub

Why 32bit version!... 32 bit processors can only use up to 2G of RAM. I also bought 4 pieces of Corsair 1Ghz FSB speed memory and it turned out a piece was bad. And of course, my computer is a 64 bit machine that was running XP/64 and even though 4Gig is there, the computer will only tell you that there's 3Gig on the My Computer/System Properties/General Tab

Post 7 of 14

That's a great article. But...

by R. Proffitt Moderator - 7/14/07 1:51 PM In reply to: See if this helps by kpo6969

How does one install this patch? Vista won't install so we can't patch Vista.

-> Shouldn't Microsoft re-issue the DVD?

Bob

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Remove 2GB

by kpo6969 - 7/16/07 9:33 PM In reply to: That's a great article. But... by R. Proffitt Moderator

install patch, put the other 2GB back in.

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32 bit vista support up to 3 gig only

by urackon - 7/16/07 12:43 AM In reply to: Upgraded RAM 3GB -> 4GB, Vista Won't Load! by phillydub

All 32 bit versions support only up to 3 gigabytes. To get 4 you have to upgrade vista. I dont think their is 32 bit home premium so you would have to go ultimate or something to use 4 gigs.

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Ultimate can be 3Gigs.

by R. Proffitt Moderator - 7/16/07 2:21 AM In reply to: 32 bit vista support up to 3 gig only by urackon

Until you go to 64-Vista it's going to be limited to 3 to 3.5 Gigs.

http://www.microsoft.com/windows/products/windowsvista/editions/64bit.mspx does write the 64-bit is in the box but many OEM installs are... the 32 bit version due to driver issues.

Bob

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32bit and Memory Max

by Zensphere - 7/16/07 10:27 PM In reply to: Ultimate can be 3Gigs. by R. Proffitt Moderator

Correct me if I'm wrong but I don't care what the operating system is, a 32bit processor can only write to 2Gig of memory! End of story.

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Memory correction of myself

by Zensphere - 7/16/07 10:32 PM In reply to: 32bit and Memory Max by Zensphere

Hi Everyone
Here's something I copied from microsofts website

The virtual address space of processes and applications is still limited to 2 GB unless the /3GB switch is used in the Boot.ini file. When the physical RAM in the system exceeds 16 GB and the /3GB switch is used, the operating system will ignore the additional RAM until the /3GB switch is removed. This is because of the increased size of the kernel required to support more Page Table Entries. The assumption is made that the administrator would rather not lose the /3GB functionality silently and automatically; therefore, this requires the administrator to explicitly change this setting.

The /3GB switch allocates 3 GB of virtual address space to an application that uses IMAGE_FILE_LARGE_ADDRESS_AWARE in the process header. This switch allows applications to address 1 GB of additional virtual address space above 2 GB.

The virtual address space of processes and applications is still limited to 2 GB, unless the /3GB switch is used in the Boot.ini file. The following example shows how to add the /3GB parameter in the Boot.ini file to enable application memory tuning:

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Follow Up

by phillydub - 7/21/07 7:09 PM In reply to: Memory correction of myself by Zensphere

Alright, I think one of the sticks of RAM was jacked. I would blue screen constantly after anywhere from 5-30 minutes of playing Counter-Strike.

I was able to get my computer to start ONCE with all four sticks of RAM, and you are correct, it was maxed out at 3.5 GB. After I restarted, my computer wouldn't start again so I removed a stick of RAM and it worked again.

I updated my BIOS and im using the beta version of NVIDIA's forceware drivers now, which seem to work much better than the ones I was using. I haven't had a blue screen since I pulled out the crappy piece of ram and updated bios and video card drivers.

I think it also might be because I have 2 sticks of nice Corsair ram, and the other 2 sticks are K-BYTE cheap ass ram..

Post 14 of 14

two ways

by wlczsf - 7/22/07 6:07 PM In reply to: Upgraded RAM 3GB -> 4GB, Vista Won't Load! by phillydub

firstly, you need make sure that your computer motherboard support to 4Gb RAM, If ok, you have two methods to install 4Gb RAM. use 64 bit OS or Change physical RAM info( see microsoft website for detail)

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