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Mac OS X: Apple neglecting Mac customers

by onemoremile - 7/4/07 12:00 PM
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Post 16 of 21

Apple reliability

by forkboy - 7/7/07 1:24 PM In reply to: Apple neglecting Mac customers by onemoremile

First, I thought Bob the Moderator was right: send an old-fashioned letter to the head man himself. Whether or not one receives a response is almost irrelevant as this has to be a better way of doing things than trying to get one's message across by leaving an e-mail at some anonymous customer service server.

Second, Bob: nice shot across the bow!

Lastly, I'm curious why no one is asking the question: why did this Apple product seem to suck so hard? I always read and hear from Mac users about how superior is their product over IBM clones with Microsoft OSs, but onemoremile's problem isn't an isolated incident I'm certain. My sister and brother-in-law recently purchased a Mac laptop and had to return it twice (and they were given new ones each time) for a variety of major issues. I previously worked for an employer who utilized Mac-only products and I found them to be just as problematic as any Windows-driven computer I had ever used.

I'll even jump out on a limb to suggest that the reason typical Mac owners have fewer problems over the life of their machines is because they tend to be more computer literate than the average IBM clone/Microsoft OS user and as such they keep their Macs in better running order than do all the others. My secret to a well-running Windows driven computer: building it at home and forgetting all about Dell, HP, and the rest!

Post 17 of 21

More literate

by MzSabina - 7/7/07 4:57 PM In reply to: Apple reliability by forkboy

It's not that they are really more literate. It's just easier on a Mac to know what is going on and to trouble shoot. And by the way, did anyone ever bother to ask if the RAM that caused all the problems was what came installed on the machine? ??Just because it is easy to buy and install RAM doesn't mean it can't cause problems. Especially to a total novice. Static, non matching chips, chips from inferior manufacturer's, just to name a few, can all cause SERIOUS problems.??But just as you say forkboy, your secret is building your windows machines yourself. Anyone who's job involves using a computer, should not also have to be a certified technician on that system also. At least with a Mac, day to day trouble shooting is almost effortless. Speaking from experience on more than 15 years working in Windows and 20 on Mac, there a reason that Mac users do not say PC stands for personal computer, but something far less flattering. In all my experience I have never seen a Mac user replace their computer rather than reinstall the operating system, where as with PC users, I have seen that happen on a regular basis. ??And as far as the laptop issue with your sister, yes, the first edition MacBook's did have a problem with the logic board. But Apple stood by their products and took care of it. I actually went through the same issue. But in 20 years and more than 15 Macs, that is the FIRST and ONLY issue I have had with a Mac that was due to factory installed hardware. Where as the one and only time I actually purchased a PC myself by my own choice, it was sent back to the factory within a week after 5 phone calls and simpleton talk from their support personnel. No thanks, I would rather work with something that any layman can solve a glitch on, than spend hours and hours trouble shooting or buying components and building my own machine. If I wanted to do that, I would get a job doing it and get paid. I already have to do it for my family members who own PC's. But when I want an out I just say, "hey, I'm a Mac person, not a PC person. Your going to need a to call a tech for that. Next time get a Mac and I could walk you through it on the phone,"??P.S. And to Bob, thanks for the info. I needed that for another reason and the issue just came up yesterday. Perfect timing!!!! Doubt it will help, but if a letter with my issue (and it has nothing to do with their products) falls into the right hands, it can solve me weeks of research.

Post 18 of 21

Mac vs. PC

by forkboy - 7/26/07 8:18 AM In reply to: More literate by MzSabina

(sorry the reply is late - death in the family)

You are quite right on a number of fronts and I must confess that when the time comes to replace/upgrade my current home-built machine I know that I will strongly consider the move to an Apple computer product. I am not, as yet, 100% sold and this is mostly due to the great success my home-built machine has provided.

But one thing is a an absolute certainty: outside Apple I'll never again own a non home-built computer.

Post 19 of 21

(NT) Condolences FB.

by grimgraphix - 7/26/07 9:34 AM In reply to: Mac vs. PC by forkboy

Post 20 of 21

Thanks for the update and...

by R. Proffitt Moderator - 7/26/07 10:06 AM In reply to: Mac vs. PC by forkboy

My condolences as well.

Bob

Post 21 of 21

eMac Recall

by nutters - 7/7/07 6:48 PM In reply to: Apple neglecting Mac customers by onemoremile

I have experienced the same problem with slow support and many little annoying problems with Macs. I have a lab with about 7 eMacs and 3 blueberry Macs loaded with Adobe CS2. The eMacs are all slightly different models purchased at different times. All have OS X but some have 10.2 others 10.3 and 2 have 10.4, but all have recalls. Because we cannot lose any productivity time we sent only 1 first to get repaired. It was sent in September of last year and did not return until March of this year. I didn't really miss it, with it gone I had a space for my much faster VAIO but that is still a rediculous amount of time for a recall repair. At least now, though, it no longer randomly quits Safari like the rest of them, but it does still tell you Adobe unexpectantly quit when you attempt to close it just like all the others. There are a few features that are well though-out, but as for being more stable than a pc, I don't think so.

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