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Community Newsletter: Q&A: Tips on how to get that plasma TV mounted on the wall

by Lee Koo (ADMIN) Moderator - 6/29/07 2:36 PM
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Wall mounting of Flat Panel TV-Consider these factors

by winstonh5 - 6/29/07 2:51 PM In reply to: Tips on how to get that plasma TV mounted on the wall by Lee Koo (ADMIN) Moderator

First, let’s consider some concerns before we proceed:

1. Do you own, lease or rent? You should not wall mount without the permission of the owner.

2. Do you have wall constructed of vertical wooden 2x4 or 2x6 studs covered by sheetrock? If you have a log cabin, walls with plaster over wooden or metal lathe, etc., this is not a good idea to wall mount a TV.

3. If a heavy object is planned for wall mounting before the sheetrock is installed, architects and builders install wood “blocking” in the wall to give a strong material into which mounting screws or bolts can be anchored. Although quite a bite of weight can be hung from the sheetrock panels using Molly Bolts or specially designed sheetrock fasteners, I would recommend supporting a heavy and expensive item from the wooden studs or blocking fastened to studs or a plywood mounting board fastened to studs.

4. Do you want to mount your TV on the surface or recess it into the wall? Recessing increases the complexity quite a bit and is best done by a professional.

5. Using a plywood mount board for a 42 inch flat panel TV could be as large as 19 inches by 38 inches and still not be visible from in front. Since wood studs are traditionally installed on 16 inch centers, you will always have 2 horizontal studs to which the board can be screwed. If you are lucky in centering your TV where you want it, you might span as many as 3 studs. Such a board should be at least ˝ inch thick and have the edges trimmed with a solid wood strip and the entire unit painted before installation. You can use “stove” bolts with round heads and a square shank pre-inserted into the board to give you a very strong set of lugs onto which to bolt your TV mounting bracket.

6. Will this be a permanent location for your TV? Wall mounting will leave some ugly walls when the TV is removed later and could require extensive wall repair.

7. Might you sell your residence later and take your TV? See number 4 above.

8. Might you want to buy a different TV in the future? If so, you will have to write off the cost of this installation and start over with a new set of installation costs for the next TV.

9. Will you get glare on the screen in this location from windows, etc.? If so, maybe this is not the very best location.

10. Will you have now (or in the future) a cable box, a satellite dish, a DVR, remote speakers, etc.? If so, where are they to be placed and how are they to be connected?

11. Do you want to hide all the cables, wiring etc., or leave them exposed?

12. If you want to leave them exposed, where are the existing cable jacks and existing electrical power receptacles?

13. Will you have custom cables made to eliminate extra cable lengths?

14. Is the proposed wall an exterior wall? If so, all new routing of cable must be done on the interior side and not from the exterior side of the wall.

15. Before you purchase your flat panel TV, check the cable connections in back to determine if the cables come in from the rear or up from the bottom. If they come in from the back, the set will have to sit out from the wall or the cables will have to be recessed into the wall.

16. If you plan to route some new cables, will you have to go over a door or window? If you do, you will have to come down to the new jack or receptacle from the top and could run into fire blocking running horizontally between the studs. If you penetrate the fire blocking, make sure you do not violate your building code.

17. If the set is to be mounted on an interior wall, there will be some sound transmission through the wall via the mounting bracket. Will someone in your family be sleeping in the adjoining room? If you are in a condo or an apartment, will a neighbor be in that room? If so, you could be forced to take your TV down.

18. If you are going to install new cable jacks or electrical receptacles, is there a suitable wall that can be accessed from the other side? If you are lucky, there will be an existing cable jack and/or electrical receptacle on the opposite side or the opposite side will be a closet or utility room or garage making it much easier to route these new lines.

19. Beware of plumbing lines, phone lines, doorbell wiring, thermostat wiring, stereo speaker wiring, fire and burglar alarm wiring, etc. inside the walls before you cut or drill here.

20. Are you permitted to install an electrical receptacle yourself or will have to use a licensed electrician? If you are permitted, do you have the knowledge and skill to do this?

21. Do you have all the tools needed? A list of likely tools needed follows. If you do have all the tools, are you skilled and experienced in their use? If not, don’t attempt this project on your own.

22. A list of tools and supplies likely needed include: saber saw with blades for wood and sheetrock, blade screwdriver, adjustable wrench, socket wrench set (inch, not metric), tape measure, level (bubble or laser), stud finder, cordless drill with set of drill bits, electricians lineman’s pliers, pocket knife, carpenters or combination square, scissors, pencil, flashlight, hand or portable vacuum, scotch tape, masking tape, sheetrock taping compound, putty knife, sandpaper, various sizes and types of screws and bolts, paint, paint brush.

23. The skill level in all this is not real high, but the most important thing is to consider all factors BEFORE you proceed.

24. If you do not wall mount your TV and if you do not already have a suitable stand on which to install the TV and the DVR, the cable box, etc., a new one will cost $150 to $350. An entertainment center (piece of furniture) could cost $1,000-$2,000. Weigh these costs against the cost of hiring a professional to wall mount your new TV.

25. If you don’t feel confident to install it yourself, find the extra money to hire a professional. You would not buy your fiancé a diamond and then try to fashion your own setting just to save money. You don’t cut your own hair.

Good luck!

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http://forums.cnet.com/5208-6142_102-0.html?forumID=7&th read

by jean harrington - 6/29/07 4:47 PM In reply to: Wall mounting of Flat Panel TV-Consider these factors by winstonh5

I live in dread of the day when I have to get a new TV.My TV is at the foot of my bed, just where a TV should be.
My Q is about #15: Before you purchase your flat panel TV, check the cable connections in back to determine if the cables come in from the rear or up from the bottom. If they come in from the back, the set will have to sit out from the wall or the cables will have to be recessed into the wall.

I confess, TV's are of no particular interest to me, so long as they work.
TV's are something to watch in bed,
round 11pm.

I do not 'get' these new TV's at all.
I have seen them.
So what?
Does it make a better show?

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re: I don't get these new TVs

by twyrick - 6/30/07 6:53 AM In reply to: http://forums.cnet.com/5208-6142_102-0.html?forumID=7&th read by jean harrington

Actually Jean, the new HDTV sets *do* give some of us more material to watch! I thought I had no need at all for a high-definition TV set. My old set looked just fine to me, and besides, a bunch of stuff I watched was on old VHS videotapes anyway.....

But I finally got a new Plasma set when Phillips ran a sale on refurbished units last Xmas. Sure, the picture quality is great and all that - but the best part for me? I discovered that our location TV stations broadcast a number of alternate channels you can only get on a HDTV compatible set. Our PBS channel, for example, has 4 channels running at once - but only 1 you ever see on a standard TV.

Because of these extra channels, I was able to avoid paying for cable!

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another thing to consider when selling your house later

by dmeisner01 - 6/30/07 10:28 AM In reply to: Wall mounting of Flat Panel TV-Consider these factors by winstonh5

Excellent reply, and made me think of something. "Real estate" is defined as anything anchored to your lot, including anything permanently anchored to a wall. It's a simple thing to clearly state exceptions, but you should do so right from the start.

I could see this being pretty contentious if not thought of until closing, and the buyer would likely be right in saying the TV should stay.

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wall mounting your TV - not so scary!

by clownlady - 6/24/07 1:30 PM In reply to: Tips on how to get that plasma TV mounted on the wall by Lee Koo (ADMIN) Moderator

Knowing how to mount your tv on the wall can be confusing - and scary! After all, you don't want it falling down. My suggestion would be to first determine what type of wall you want to put the TV on - i.e., is it plaster, drywall, concrete? With this information, and the weight of the TV, A visit to your local Home Depot would be the next step. There are a multitude of mounting options available to you depending on the wall type. Costs will vary with the different types, too. If you are only renting you will probably want to consider a least invasive method of wall mounted brackets; if you own, you can go with drilled in fittings.

The folks at Home Depot are great! And, if the wall is concrete and you don't have the tools for the job, they rent at very reasonable rates...

Having installed a multitude of different things from ceiling and walls, and having asked their professional recommendations if only to confirm my own ideas, i can speak for their abilities. Good luck, and happy viewing!

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Really?

by peterCIS - 6/25/07 4:36 AM In reply to: wall mounting your TV - not so scary! by clownlady

I don't know about the folks in your Home Depot, I wouldn't trust the ones in mine with advice on hanging a post it note on the wall no less a TV. Go to a real hardware store.

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Windwods genuine

by ferramva - 6/24/07 4:49 PM In reply to: Tips on how to get that plasma TV mounted on the wall by Lee Koo (ADMIN) Moderator

How eliminate advise genuine windows?

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Piece of cake...

by Kostagh - 6/26/07 7:51 AM In reply to: Windwods genuine by ferramva

Have you tried purchasing a license?
It works every time!
Cheers!

Post 84 of 147

All the time?

by bill.timmins - 6/29/07 11:10 PM In reply to: Piece of cake... by Kostagh

It works, eventually, most of the time.

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How to mount a Plasma TV on the Wall

by Rustea - 6/24/07 10:52 PM In reply to: Tips on how to get that plasma TV mounted on the wall by Lee Koo (ADMIN) Moderator

First you have to find the Studs on the wall behind the drywall.

Once you have found them, you will need to get a TV mounting kit from one of the superstore, electronic places like Future Shop, Circuit City, Best Buy, etc. I bought mine for 75.00, yeah, it is expensive but then, so was your TV, and you don't want it to fall off the wall.

Ask one of the sales Reps there to help you choose one, they have different sizes for different size of Tv's.

You will then need a drill and by following the instructions that come with the mounting, you are on your way to hanging the TV on the wall. I am a female and did mine all by myself (except for the hanging of it, as it was too heavy for one person to mount) without any problems.

Good luck!

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Mounting a Plasma with proper bracket and use a Stud finder

by Ribbink - 6/24/07 11:11 PM In reply to: Tips on how to get that plasma TV mounted on the wall by Lee Koo (ADMIN) Moderator

Tom,
All of the other posts were great with their imperative replies on using screws to the studs. You could also do a test drill with a smaller bit to do a verify of the finder's reading. Some wall construction can a bit tricky with the readings. Joint compound is good to fill any mistakes. Having all of the cables routed between the studs and then exited to an "old" receptacle box. It's actually new and can secured firmly to the sheetrock new cut out hole.
The manufacturer's web site can recommend the correct bracket or accessing crutchfield.com and entering the Model # might help.
rjr

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Finding Studs

by fisherv - 6/30/07 4:13 AM In reply to: Mounting a Plasma with proper bracket and use a Stud finder by Ribbink

Get an electronic stud finder at Home Depot or similar. Get the more expensive one ($30) that also finds LIVE electrical wires (and pipes).

Hear me now, thank me later.

(While you are there at the home store, get a economy bubble level ($5), 16 ft Stanley measure tape ($16), and a 36" aluminium straight-edge ruler ($12). Need a battery for that stud finder?

Investment so far - $75 or less. This assumes you have a drill and bits. If not...get the good one. Now's the time to get that nice rechargeable Makita kit with the battery operated saw. Whoo-hoo!

(Nobody SAID it would be cheap, Mr. Big Spender...)

Using the hi-tech stud finder: Once you think you've located the edge of the studs, LIGHTLY** pencil a mark (at the approximate mounting height) to indicate the edge(s) of each.

**Why re-paint?

IMPORTANT: Wood studs are GENERALLY 1 1/2" wide, and 16" 'on center'. That means the space between two studs SHOULD be 16" (unless there's some creative work under your sheet rock).

To back up the stud finder's work, use the time-tested method of rapping your knuckle horizontally along the wall, crossing the studs and back - several times. The change in density causes changes in the reflected sound (pitch goes UP when you are over something solid), and you can gain greater assurance that your ear and the stud finder agree before you start making holes.

Watch out for pipes and power lines.

Remember, "Measure twice, cut once".

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If you need to ask...

by peterCIS - 6/25/07 4:33 AM In reply to: Tips on how to get that plasma TV mounted on the wall by Lee Koo (ADMIN) Moderator

If you have to ask I am guessing your not the home improvement type. You spent what, $2k, 3K for this baby. It would be a shame to have it fall off the wall. If it was me I would hang it, but if you are not comfortable doing this type of work have it done. If you do decide to go the DIY route, check out monoprice.com for the hardware.

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mounting plasma screen on wall

by jocdocnh - 6/25/07 6:13 AM In reply to: Tips on how to get that plasma TV mounted on the wall by Lee Koo (ADMIN) Moderator

the main issue is making CERTAIN that you get good purchase in several (preferably 3) studs with heavy lag screws. I suggest use of a good stud finder then drilling small pilot hole or using an awl to "feel" for the stud. Any good mount should do fine but none will make up for lack of purchase in wood. Technically this is no harder than hanging a bookshelf or heavy picture.

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wall mounting a TV

by johnjohnson1957 - 6/25/07 8:13 AM In reply to: Tips on how to get that plasma TV mounted on the wall by Lee Koo (ADMIN) Moderator

Tom,
If you have basic handyman skills it is not too difficult. You'll need a stud finder as the wall mount must be fastened to the wall studs.

Be sure to consider how the light (both natural light from windows as well as you electric fixtures) in the room strikes the TV. Light can wash out the picture or create reflections.

Hanging the TV on a wall mount is only part of the process however; In wall mounting you probably don't want wires hanging down below the TV which means cutting into the wall by the TV wall mount to install an electrical box to power the TV and to install an signal input connector box (whetgher it be antenna, cable, etc). I assume you'll also want your DVD connected to your TV so you'll also need to plan for its wiring thru the wall cavitity and then decide where you are going place the DVD player itself in relation to the TV. I recommend you place the mount over a wall cavity that has an electrical box in it. You or your electricain can then piggy back off it for wiring in the power.

As far as the type of mount. You need to decide if you want to be able to tilt your TV or do you want to be able to swivel it out from the wall. The units that allow you to pull it out from the wall cost a whole lot more than the ones that just tilt. Once you know the type of mount you then have to consider the the weight of your TV. I ended up paying $250 for a swivel wall mount that could carry my TV's 100lbs. Tilt mount are much cheaper.

Last bit of advice: Different mounts cover a range of TVs. Measure the space between the mounting hole in the back of your TV to give you an idea of what size bracket you'll need. FYI: Walmart has a small selection of wall mounts but unfortuntely none would fit my TV. All the best, jjj

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