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Are Apple users joining a technology nanny state
by nutjob - 6/13/07 1:48 PMI use Macs at work and have an iPod but many things about them I do not like no I am just going crazy with Apple creating a nanny-state for people who want to, need to, or have to use their products.
Jobs like leaders of most cults or nanny-state nations like to have explanding control. Forcing people to use Safari for Windows or signing up for iTunes to use a phone is just the next step in making th Apple nanny state a reality.
Someone please tell me I am wrong.
You are not wrong
by benanzo - 6/13/07 2:05 PM In reply to: Are Apple users joining a technology nanny state by nutjobBut that is what makes the Apple experience so "special."
(NT) I'm afraid you are right. Time for the tide to change..
by udayan71
- 6/13/07 3:41 PM
In reply to: Are Apple users joining a technology nanny state by nutjob
It's voluntary.
by thriftyT - 6/13/07 3:49 PM In reply to: Are Apple users joining a technology nanny state by nutjobSure you can rail against this, but the bottom line is that using iTunes and Apple stuff is completely and totally VOLUNTARY. I have a ton of choices to avoid using Apple products. I can go out and get a Dell and a Zune and an Upstage right now.
Presto! No more "nanny state"!
But then, I guess I'm not ready to leave my nanny. And I'm willing to pony up the dollar cost for the privelege of using my nanny...for the time being.
join implies voluntary
by nutjob - 6/14/07 10:45 AM In reply to: It's voluntary. by thriftyTBut it does not imply good, smart, or even reasonable.
Unreasonable? Ouch.
by thriftyT - 6/15/07 8:14 AM In reply to: join implies voluntary by nutjobWell, I'm not going to argue with you too hard here. Clearly Apple does some nannying, but it is reasonable to use their products sometimes. That's not to say there aren't some stupid features and non-features in their products.
I agree that the fact that there is no removable battery on the iphone is silly. Heck, I've heard that this phone will drain batteries fast – this would have been an opportunity for Apple to sell spare batteries for users to swap in and out.
But why is iPhone's iTunes requirement unreasonable? For me and X million users out there, we already have the program. Using iTunes with iPhone is more reasonable then requiring the installation of yet another program – Apple, Microsoft, Palm, Nokia, or otherwise – to manage my phone.
Sounds like you're a bit afraid of commitment. Not married are you? =)
married 23 years
by nutjob - 6/18/07 3:53 PM In reply to: Unreasonable? Ouch. by thriftyTKnew Ms. Nutjob 6 weeks, got married. Still together 23 years later although she is still hoping for someone better.
BTW, I use a Treo700w. I can use 90% the phone without any other software.
To even use 5% the iPhone you need iTunes and safari. You can not even make a call without iTunes and Safari.
You are a brave man.
by thriftyT - 6/19/07 2:05 PM In reply to: married 23 years by nutjobMarried 23 years. I'm impressed!
I've been married only 3. Ditto on the wife's intentions... =)
Show me the files, baby!
by noketsuna - 6/19/07 11:08 AM In reply to: Unreasonable? Ouch. by thriftyTOne of the (thankfully) few times I've used a Mac, I found myself needing to search for a hidden file. After spending 20 minutes trying to puzzle out how to do this on my own, I went online to look up where the command was. Turns out, you have to enter a script every time you want to show hidden files and a counter-script to hide them again.
Apple loves to spoon feed its users. This would not be possible if they didn't make a product limited by their overly simplitic software.
counterpoint
by thriftyT - 6/13/07 3:55 PM In reply to: Are Apple users joining a technology nanny state by nutjobI use <WINDOWS> at work and have a <ZUNE> but many things about them I do not like no I am just going crazy with <MICROSOFT> creating a nanny-state for people who want to, need to, or have to use their products.
<GATES>, like leaders of most cults or nanny-state nations like to have explanding control. Forcing people to use <EXPLORER> for Windows or signing up for <MEDIA PLAYER, ZUNES MARKETPLACE, ETC.> to use a <ZUNE, XBOX, etc> is just the next step in making the <MICROSOFT> nanny state a reality.
Someone please tell me I am wrong
You are not wrong
by benanzo - 6/13/07 4:41 PM In reply to: counterpoint by thriftyTBut that is what makes the Microsoft experience so "special."
Right on both accounts.
by Renegade Knight - 6/14/07 7:04 AM In reply to: You are not wrong by benanzoBig Brother, Nanny State, Yucky either way.
(NT) My head is spinning. Let's call it off and go Linux.
by udayan71 - 6/13/07 11:22 PM
In reply to: counterpoint by thriftyT
+1
by JegroVzla - 6/19/07 1:18 PM In reply to: (NT) My head is spinning. Let's call it off and go Linux. by udayan71
=)
What?
by nutjob - 6/14/07 7:57 AM In reply to: counterpoint by thriftyTI think - I get your point but your facts here are just wrong. A better example is you live in a airport hub city say Houston or Detroit. If you travel a lot between Houston and Detroit your only real options are Northwest or Continential. So what do you do you suck it up and take it.
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