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Browsers: Poll: Will you be trying Apple's Safari for Windows?
- 6/13/07 3:45 PM
Poll: Will you be trying Apple's Safari for Windows?
by Lee Koo (ADMIN) - 6/13/07 3:45 PM
Will you be trying Apple's Safari (beta) Web browser for Windows?
-- Yes, soon. (Why not now?)
-- Maybe (What's holding you back?)
-- No, I don't do betas.(Why not?)
-- No, I don't touch Apple products. (Please explain.)
-- Never! (Why not?)
-- I'm already using it. (How do you like it?)
Already tried and discarded it (for now)
by dburgett - 6/13/07 8:56 PM In reply to: Poll: Will you be trying Apple's Safari for Windows? by Lee Koo (ADMIN)
I write Ajax-heavy websites so cross-browser support is an ongoing challenge for me. Since I've tested my websites on Safari/Mac, I figured that testing tem on Safari/Windows would be a quick no-brainer.
Unfortunately, whenever I made an Ajax request, the request was not sent to the server. Instead, a dialog box showed the URL. I'm assuming that this means that Apple just hasn't implemented the xml internals needed for Ajax.
Until it provides this basic functionality, it's useless to me and my customers. I'm just waiting for the emails asking why my websites suck and why I hate Apple to start coming in...
Never!
by Gatewood Kistler - 6/13/07 9:01 PM In reply to: Already tried and discarded it (for now) by dburgettI have a Mac. The worst thing about it is Safari. I also have several PCs. I would never downgrade my Windows PCs by putting Safari on it. It's the most hopeless browser I have ever used. Slow, quits unexpectedly, and I probably have to force quit it twice a week. I would get a different browser for the Mac, but just haven't gotten around to it.
Safari on Windows - Not
by rpoelking - 6/14/07 5:40 AM In reply to: Never! by Gatewood KistlerI use both OS's and I am a Mac Bigot. I love the efficiency for workflow I have in the Mac environment. While I do not experience some issues with Safari others have (crashing, etc) it's a very basic browser that doesn't support functionality required by websites for a good experience. I still have to keep Firefox on the side for that.
Safari on Windows--is like IE on Mac - Are you retarded? Apple should have been putting forth more effort to release Leopard on time (i.e. WWDC) rather than wasting time on producing a browser that no self respecting Windows users to attempt.
Safari/Windows
by Debra Kohlrust - 6/13/07 9:49 PM In reply to: Already tried and discarded it (for now) by dburgettI downloaded Safari/Windows yesterday 6/12 and am very pleased with the results I've had so far.
I'm now running about 30% faster, using XP Professional Windows 64 bit on my Athelon 64 with 1 GB of ram, for most all applications which I have tried to date, using my Athelon 64 with 1 GB of ram. Yahoo loads and operates about 50% faster for me then it did prior to the switch but I can't explain why.
I do extensive work with Photoshop PS2 in restoring old 35 mm film negatives - old in the sense of dating back to the late 1980s - and I often felt that the MS browser was the cause of some of my frequent slowdowns.
My project requires maximum resolution and image quality, which often means 100mb+ initial scans. Sure enough, when I switched to Safari/Windows I gained between 20% to 30% faster initial processing times for an overall speed-up of about 12% in throughput.
I strongly recommend that you give it a try and see if your own results match mine. After all, it is supposed to be simple to switch back if you want to.
Deb Kohlrust, US Merchant Marine
no need for a better browser thanks to firefox
by psychoxl99 - 6/14/07 11:38 AM In reply to: Already tried and discarded it (for now) by dburgettIf Firefox didn't exist, I might consider using this, because IE7 is such a monstrosity as far as the user interface is concerned. But Firefox already addresses my needs, so why would I switch? As a web developer I might use it to test my websites (though ultimately it's not a substitute for testing Mac users' experiences using a Mac), but I won't start using it for myself.
Then again, I'm not a "first adopter" of most things despite being very tech savvy, because I tend to resist trends and fads (for a variety of reasons). When Facebook was launched at my school, I didn't sign up for an account until my roommates said they'd do one for me otherwise and put jokes on it at my expense. I didn't even use Firefox until I saw how bad the IE7 UI was. So, I suppose I could be dragged into this too.
I agree with the other posters that say how bad Mac apps on Windows are, specifically iTunes. I use iTunes a lot, but only because I like the offerings from their store and I need to sync my iPod, not because I think it's a good program. It's slow and buggy. They've got me locked on that one, but it doesn't make me want to try other Mac programs that were ported to Windows.
used it, gave it up
by oludir - 6/15/07 8:47 AM In reply to: Already tried and discarded it (for now) by dburgetthowever, jobs must have been testing it on a very special machine cos it runs slower than ie7 on my vista notebook.
I tried Safari on XP ... it was OK
by bheiser - 6/13/07 9:02 PM In reply to: Poll: Will you be trying Apple's Safari for Windows? by Lee Koo (ADMIN)
It seemed a lot like Firefox - except that some of the things I looked for were in different places. I used it to browse to a few sites, and didn't really see anything that would give me a reason to switch.
maybe
by knelson276 - 6/13/07 9:16 PM In reply to: Poll: Will you be trying Apple's Safari for Windows? by Lee Koo (ADMIN)
I haven’t really heard anything about it to make a decision. I currently use firefox and I’m very happy with it. Unless I hear any really compelling reasons to switch, I probably won’t.
Nothing APPLE thank you
by wbryan - 6/13/07 9:20 PM In reply to: Poll: Will you be trying Apple's Safari for Windows? by Lee Koo (ADMIN)
Since APPLE pushed Steve Wozniac out and stopped support of their APPLE II+ series simply in an effort to become even richer, I refuse to use or even acknowledge anything APPLE. so, no, I will not try Safari.
I will never be using Safari for Windows...
by JMiguel - 6/13/07 9:26 PM In reply to: Poll: Will you be trying Apple's Safari for Windows? by Lee Koo (ADMIN)
...because I already dumped Windows!!!
Background: Former IT Manager, Microsoft Certified, with 'bout 15 years of intensive Windows-based PC usage under my belt.
Reason: I got tired of several things. a) Getting ripped-off for software (that goes for OS' and Apps) that are as flawed as they are funtional. b) Constantly dealing with hassles such as incompatibilities between HW and SW. c) Tired of false expectations such as the plug-and-play a.k.a. plug-and pray.
Really... I was one of many who beta-tested the Vista OS (fka Longhorn), as well as Office 2007. I got such "good results" that decided to buy both licenses as soon as they were put out in the market. EXTREMELY disappointed when I found out that "upgrading" would cost me close to $2000 (wether I upgraded my existing hardware and software, or bought a new notebook with the required HW to run Vista Aero and getting an Office 2007 license).
Instead, I sold my "old notebook" (Dell Inspiron 710m for about $1200), and "spent" an extra $800 out of my own pocket, and got me a MacBook Pro with better hardware than most "Vista-Aero" ready notebooks (that is Dual Core 2 2.33 ghz, 2GB Ram, 120GB HD, 128 MB graphics card, etc. etc. etc.), with a $180 Microsoft Office 2004 for Mac license (this is when the ripped-off concept kicked in) - yes, I know, office again, but because my co-workers are still using msoffice for windows - an $80 Parallels Desktop license (so I can still use my ACad license, as well as MS Project - dido -.
The only time my computer has frozen, is when either I am running Windows XP on Parallels, or PowerPoint for Mac.
However... I've only been a Mac user for the past 5 months, and so far I say I'm never going back... once you go Mac, you never go back!...he he.
So... why would I use Safari Beta on Windows, when I already use Safari on Mac. No need.
Why would Apple would put out a version of Safari for the Windows users? To give the a taste of what they are missing!!! That's why.
its crap
by ashrodd02 - 6/13/07 9:27 PM In reply to: Poll: Will you be trying Apple's Safari for Windows? by Lee Koo (ADMIN)
i watched the cnettv vid recording of when they announced safari was going to be on Pc's, and wanted to see what the hype was about. downloaded it, and then got angry...
what he was saying about the fast loading times was all crap, ie 7 was faster that safari and not to mention Firefox taking the lead.
i think when they tested it, they must of had quick time running, because what killed me the most is when i wanted to download it, i had to download quick time and it came buddled with itunes. quicktime forces it way though, making it one of the startup items, and its a helper for all apple dodge products, including safari and itunes. futher, if u dont have quicktime as a helper, it take a heap of time to load up safari.
its has no hope...
Standards compliance.
by bjrankin - 6/13/07 9:28 PM In reply to: Poll: Will you be trying Apple's Safari for Windows? by Lee Koo (ADMIN)
Safari/Konqueror are fundamentally broken when it comes to CSS/XHTML standards compliance. Yes...I know that IE is also, but, in my experience, Safari's non-compliance issues are harder to work around than even the abysmal IE.
peripherals cost more
by mennoniteman - 6/13/07 9:29 PM In reply to: Poll: Will you be trying Apple's Safari for Windows? by Lee Koo (ADMIN)
I won't deal with Apple Computers, because they charge more for parts and ancillary products like printers, displays, etc. Software is limited, and often more expensive.
These are the reasons the Amiga bought the farm too.
Amiga
by Debra Kohlrust - 6/13/07 10:00 PM In reply to: peripherals cost more by mennonitemanIt's nice to see another old timer who started with an Amiga! I got mine around 1986 or so and was amazed at what I could do with it regarding video animation and some early local TV spots for the Algonac, MI cable system. I kept it through my 2 1/2 years at Northwest Michigan College's Great Lakes Maritime Academy,'89/'91, and it never let me down.
Wish I could say the same of the Windows systems that I've used since.
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