What an absolutely stupid arguement. It all comes down to this: if you speed, DUI, tailgate, cut corners, swerve between lanes, drive un-roadworthy vehicles, drive un-licensed, allow yourself to become distracted, etc, the list is much longer, you do not deserve to drive on public roads. The laws need to be much stronger, and driver education needs to be more pro-active throughout the lifetime of the driver, to address many of the problems on our roads today.
Licenses are given to teenagers who generally are many years to young to realise the responsibility of driving big, powerfull and dangerous weapons that motor vehicles tend to be. Not only that, but driver education stops as soon as one receives their license, instead of reasonably regular testing, perhaps every 5 years, to make sure that skills are correct and up to date. It is stupid to assume that just because you have been driving for a number of years, you are necessarily a good or competant driver.
Another harmful behaviour on our roads, are the idiots who think that the speed limit is the minimum speed to go, when in actuality it is only the maximum allowed by law, and often, depending on the conditions of the road, the weather, the time of day, the car you're using, your health, etc, the safer speed may well be much lower than the posted maximum. It is folly to believe that a slower driver is necessaryily a bad driver. By the same token, it is folly to believe that a driver is good just because they have never been CAUGHT speeding or drinking.
Individuals react differently in different situations, distractions may be detrimental to good driving fr one, while they are not an issue for another. The key to safe driving is this: drive legally, drive to the conditions, be considerate to other road users, and most importantly, drive drive safely.
Safe driving, is what keeps cars going, do you think everyone was a speeding drunk cars would still be legal? People like you so describe in your post are what keeps people alive, why do you think the speed limit is 30mph, because you have an 89% chance of living if your hit, and just 10mph different, putting you at 40mph, the chances of living go down to just 18%, really dude think before you post.
Amen! I couldn't agree more with you. I guess because this country was founded by Puritans, their progeny feels moral obligations to tell everyone else the 'right' way. Yes, I firmly believe that these folks cause most of the road rage! Problem is that law enforcement doesn't get it yet!
r_kissel speaks the truth, or atleast part of it... self appointed "safe drivers" are people who think the law is the law and that it is not felxable. This is not the truth; when you see traffic being backed up behind you because you are going the limit, do the safe thing and pull over to let them pass, chances are that they will want to go abit faster than you because, of course, this is not the "perfect world" where everyone believes the law is in a solid state.
I am not sure if anyone has mentioned this, because i just skimmed over the posts, would be law enforcement officers. They are on the road to ensure safety and that the laws and rules of the road are upheld. Too many times I have seen police cruisers blast off at 100km/h in a 80km/h zone and upwards to 150km/h in our highways, without their lights on. They should be the ones setting an example and obeying the rules first, this would encourage the rest of the population, or atleast most, to follow their example. I speed when it is necessary. I know my fuel economy decreases 10% for every 10km/h over 100km/h I go over, so I try to do the limit at most times.
I'm not one of your "safe drivers" but your logic is so flawed as to not even be worthy of a reply, however, you are the problem, not the so called safe drivers. I drive just like anyone else, but if I happen to get behind a slow driver I sure don't have an anxiety attack over it. Anyone that would let themselves become upset over going the speed limit so much that they cause an accident have a serious problem and should not be allowed to drive. If you can't slow down a little, even if you are behind someone going less than the speed limit, and just enjoy the drive, then you are to be pitied. You need to get a life, go see a counsellor or just stay home. What is it that you are in such a hurry to do? I'll bet you are rushing to save a life somewhere, oh excuse me. I am surrounded by idiots, God help us all.
If you think you have the right to hold up anyone by cruising in the left lane because you want to 'enjoy' a smoggy city drive then you should be able to do it---just don't force others to 'While away the hours, consulting with the flowers,' to feel the same way on the highways. I like flowers next to my pond, not on the road! It's also very shallow of you to believe that everyone has to think like you! Give us the right to decide how we drive without you in the way.
By not reading my post. What I said was that anyone that reacted to a slow driver by getting so upset they cause and accident is an idiot. You can drive any way you want as long as you don't cause and accident, but it's readily apparent that it's geniuses like you that cause most of the accidents by driving anyway you want.
Without a doubt, the use of drugs and alcohol by drivers who under the influence.
Regardless of the cause of the distraction (in the car, outside on the road, or daydreaming in your head), people tend to take driving for granted. And are relaxed and comfortable in their skills. But driving is one of the most unsafe things we all do on a daily basis.
If folks just kept the driving as #1 focus WHILE they are driving -it would be much safer.
So if on a cell phone - watch the road first, make driving turns/maneuvers first, talk second. Dial second. Do only when no other driving skill is required.
Reduce the multi-tasking and use more serial-tasking, whith the driving tasks always #1 priority.
I agree totally with deanhampton, post 9. The driver is responsible for actions or interruptions in the vehicle. Also, people these days seem to be so self-centered that they don't know anyone else is on the road but them. So add in a cell phone, sandwich or whatever and you have a real problem. It's ok to talk, drive, eat, play with your dog, etc., but not at the same time you're attempting to successfully navigate a two-ton steel weapon on a public roadway going however fast!!
No matter how bad dui's and cell phone users can be on the road, no threat is scarier than people that use their cells to text message other people (or recieve them) while they're driving..at least ppl that are on their cell watch the road.
Phones, kids, pets, cutting you off. It all comes down to people are driving cars and pay no attention to or care about anyone else but themselves on the road. They aren't much but they are all they can possibly think about. If your driving then drive. All the other stuff should come at another time.
Killjoy that I am, I really think it is time we worked out a better way of getting about than hopping into a 15 foot piece of metal, that on average carries less than two people per trip. Anyone who thinks this is is sensible, deserves to have an accident.
regards
The biggest threat comes when you get a combination of distractions going on - the synergy is usually more potent than one single factor.
-Cell phone with kids, and bad traffic
-Navigation system plus rain, bad drivers and extreme tiredness
-Eating, with pets, on the freeway while angry at the latest Bush calamity as heard on NPR.
Some things you can control (in theory) like turning off your cell phone, turning down the radio, telling the kids to settle down, or putting your pet in a carrier while ignoring the yowls and woofs. Sometimes you can even control your own emotions (uh, road rage) when someone does something stupid right in front of you (or behind you, or next to you... but hopefully not on top of you).
Things you can't control are traffic, weather, other drivers. Sometimes you can avoid traffic or delay going out in bad weather. Other drivers are unpredictable, especially when they too are distracted. To some extent you can depend on other people avoiding crashing into you out of their own sense of self-preservation, but that is less so as more and more toys and gizmos ride with us.
One big gizmo factor that isn't talked about much is how many of these things are more complicated than our nastiest VCR nightmare? For the most part we learn these things on the go and skip the manual. We should be able to operate car toys by touch or voice, not needing to take our eyes away from the road. But sadly tech makers are less about safety than about cool or profits.
The average haughty arrogant American that is brain damaged from years of illegal drug usage and liberal ideology makes the road dangerous. Trying to talk on the cell phone, put on makeup, smoke, and drive is more than they should be tying to do. The average illegal alien seems to be a little brighter than the average arrogant twit American these days.
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