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Community Newsletter: Q&A: Newbie to dSLR: Taking the next step beyond point-and-shoot cameras

by Lee Koo (ADMIN) Moderator - 5/25/07 11:15 AM
Post 16 of 148

Nice feature

by Screaminlizard - 5/12/07 10:33 PM In reply to: Focus does not have to be an issue .... by Watzman

That sounds like a nice feature. It sounds like a well thought out camera. How does it deal with the slow frame rates that you encounter in poorly lit environments? Doesn't the viewfinder go dark or the frame rate drop to a ridiculously slow refresh rate in order to capture enought light to compose the image?

Post 17 of 148

Cool!

by LaJan7 - 5/12/07 11:01 PM In reply to: Focus does not have to be an issue .... by Watzman

Now if I can just get those pesky insects and hummingbirds to wait a moment while I zip a piece of them into focus. LOL!

My autofocus isn't as accurate as my eye is, either. But with eyes going bad, my manual focusing is slightly worse than terrible. Without a big screen TV for a monitor, odds are I'm better with the autofocus and I'll leave you with better eyes to that interesting Fuji feature. :-/

Post 18 of 148

Here's a simple trick I use.

by Screaminlizard - 5/13/07 10:24 PM In reply to: Cool! by LaJan7

Did you know that you can put almost any insect in the freezer for 15 minutes to put into dormancy? It's true, catch a butterfly or whatever you want to macro, place in the freezer for 15 minutes, take them out and place them on a leaf where they will be able to stand normally but they will be unable to fly away until they heat up again. You usually have about 5 minutes to take your shots. This does not hurt the insects at all as long as you don't leave them in there for days. Black flies and some others can withstand prolonged exposure to freezing and then be brought back to life with warmer temperatures.

Makes that close up a whole lot easier.

Post 19 of 148

Valid, but...!

by Getriebe - 5/12/07 3:01 PM In reply to: Selecting a digital SLR for newbies by Watzman

Hey barry,
you clearly do have some good points in your comments, but i think you ought to consider the fact that Stephan seems to want to venture into the realm of DSLR's and is looking for a way to 'test the waters'. If Stephan intends to do No More that he/she is already doing, then your arguement could hold, but if the intent is to increase and explore new areas of photography, then your views, if accepted and followed will only serve to quench or at least 'bottle-neck' Stephan's aspiration rather than steer in their intended direction.

I am actually in a simillar position to Stephan, but previously owned and used an mid-range SLR for a number of years. Five years ago i took the digi plunge in the form of a Fuji 6000Zoom. I decided not to change it because i fully intend to go DSLR in order to go even further with my photography. I am not a pro, but don't have to be to take photography to deeper levels.

HC.

Post 20 of 148

I thought - I didn't write a review, did I?

by briegull - 5/12/07 5:22 PM In reply to: Selecting a digital SLR for newbies by Watzman

You have really described the way I feel about a high-quality non-SLR.

Before digital, I never had anything BUT an SLR, then my first digital was a perfectly adequate Minolta dimage, which made good images but had no real telephoto capabilities. Before I went on my last trip - to Angkor Wat, where I anticipated distant deities looking down at me - I bought the Panasonic DMC-FZ7. 12x optical zoom, god knows how high digital (I think it's like 48). I came home with roughly 2.5 1 gig cards close to full. From that, there were maybe two dozen that were seriously no good, blurred, poorly exposed, whatever. Two dozen!! I'm not saying all the pictures were fantastic, I'm talking about exposure and focus, etc. Plus I had some great videos.

As an old lady (my first 36mm was an Argus) I really don't like to carry a heavy camera or the rest of the stuff. A camera bag these days is a thief magnet and seems to cause problems going through security at planes, not to mention tagging one as a tourist without further examination. You can buy lens filters and I gather some kind of expensive further zoom, but I have found I really don't need it! This decent-sized NON-slr is fine for anything I've tried to use it for, including macro photog. And I have had NO problems with paralax, the old bugaboo of point-and-shoots.

Post 21 of 148

Quality Repair for an Old Minolta SLR - circa 1985

by sammygayle - 5/14/07 10:31 AM In reply to: Selecting a digital SLR for newbies by Watzman

Hi Barry:

I too love my old Minolta automatic / program SLR & the lenses I've invested in. The unit that contains the batteries to advance the film & indicate the info in the Program window is malfunctioning. Can you recommend a good repair place to have it fixed or where I might be able to purchase a replacement unit ? I live in New York City.

Thanks .... samantha

Post 22 of 148

Response to Newbie selecting a digital SLR

by debsam21 - 5/15/07 7:29 AM In reply to: Selecting a digital SLR for newbies by Watzman

Can I assume from your article that the two Fuji cameras that you mentioned have the larger sensor? Do you know of any other brands that also have them? Thanks.

Post 23 of 148

And, the question was.....

by imdan - 5/25/07 7:38 PM In reply to: Selecting a digital SLR for newbies by Watzman

This person simply wants to buy a DSLR and wants to know which one he/she should buy within a given price range.

I'm amazed at the firestorm some have created out of this person's very simple question.

I'm amazed at how few writers have actually offered their advice... and have instead elected to climb up their soapbox to air their views for or against DSLR's.

Dan the Man

Post 24 of 148

The answer...

by hejr - 5/4/07 6:04 PM In reply to: Newbie to dSLR: Taking the next step beyond point-and-shoot cameras by Lee Koo (ADMIN) Moderator

If I was on your budget I would opt for the Nikon D40X, which has almost all the features of its bigger brothers, uses the excellent Nikor lenses and is almost instantaneous in its response.

hejr

Post 25 of 148

Digital SLR for Newbies

by bigleytl - 5/4/07 6:16 PM In reply to: Newbie to dSLR: Taking the next step beyond point-and-shoot cameras by Lee Koo (ADMIN) Moderator

Skip the dSLR. Take a hard look at Panasonic's Lumix DMC-FZ50 Superzoom. It fits your budget and features 10mp resolution, 12x Leica optical zoom lens, optical stabilization, a fully articulated LCD viewer, RAW capability, etc. It looks and feels like a dSLR, and with a lens that ranges from macro to 12x zoom - stabilized, I can't think of many features it lacks. It also shoots video, a feature most dSLRs lack. You'd need to spend at least twice it's price to match it with a dSLR.

Leica likes it well enough to sell under their label, although at a higher price, through Hammacher Schlemmer, I think

Post 26 of 148

An Alternative

by jjsull49 - 5/4/07 6:17 PM In reply to: Newbie to dSLR: Taking the next step beyond point-and-shoot cameras by Lee Koo (ADMIN) Moderator

Stefan,

I've been an avid photo buff for decades. May I suggest that you take an intermediate step before the dSLR. Due to some of your requirements like fast capture, large zoom range, no shutter lag, and most of all your budget, I would suggest a digital zoom like the Canon S3 or similar. While dSLR's keep getting better and better with each generation your budget really will only allow you to purchase the body and basic lens.

Purchase of a digital zoom will provide for all your requirements in one neat package, and well under your budget. The savings can be applied to additional high speed memory and other goodies for your camera bag

From personal experience, there are many times I'd trade my dSLR with a bag full of lenses and accessories for my spouse's S3 and it's awesome capabilities.

Jerry S.

Post 27 of 148

BOGUS

by dynamius - 5/12/07 6:06 PM In reply to: An Alternative by jjsull49

An optical zoom is a better alternative! Digital zooms often degrade with increased 'magnification'. DON'T BE MISLEAD.

Post 28 of 148

Re: digital SLR for newbies

by siriusproductions - 5/4/07 6:31 PM In reply to: Newbie to dSLR: Taking the next step beyond point-and-shoot cameras by Lee Koo (ADMIN) Moderator

Photographers are often just as rabid in their support for the brand of camera they use and derision for the other brands as any Apple vs Windows debate, so take it with big grains of salt when a Canon user sneers at Nikon cameras or vice versa.

All of the big-name traditional camera makers -- Nikon, Canon, Pentax, Olympus, etc -- make excellent DSLRs and other companies previously known for electronics also make excellent DSLRs -- Sony, Panasonic, Samsung, etc, etc.

Some of the digital photography magazines have buyer's guides, but I find they're more useful for their descriptions of what a feature is and how it's used or if it's useful, than their rankings. The buyer's guides will help you figure out what features you need, what features you'd like, and which ones you can ignore because you'll never use them.

I've been a pro photographer for 20+ years. Each time I've bought new cameras, there were features available on some that weren't on others and it would be great to be able to pick and choose from a list and assemble a dream camera. However, you'll probably have to settle for whichever one has more of the features you need that any other camera has. Check to see when it was first released as it might soon be due for an upgrade or replacement. When it is, you can either buy the improved one or look for a reduced price on the "suddenly obsolete" one.

Lens choice depends on what you plan to photograph, but I recommend a zoom instead of the 50mm "normal" lens. (I'm using focal lengths for 35mm film cameras in this.) A 35-70 or 28-70 is very useful, gives good results, isn't heavy, and doesn't cost a fortune. What you get both longer and shorter than those ranges depends on what you shoot. There are some impressive zooms with very long ranges from short to long that can replace many lenses in your camera bag, but they're big, heavy, and pricey. For those times when you would only take the body and one or two lenses, owning that kind of wonder-zoom requires that you have "all" (so to speak) of your lenses mounted on the camera, even when you want to travel light.

If it's allowed here, I'd like to recommend a terrific book on photography. It's "Photography for the Joy of It" by Freeman Patterson. (Not to be confused with Kodak's "The Joy of Photography".) It's a marvellous book about how to "see" a photo before you shoot it and how to get that pre-visualized image on film or on a memory card. It never fails to inspire my photography whenever I read it. (Patterson has other books that are also good, but that's the best one to start with.) Whether you're a complete newbie or a pro, it's a great book.

I used to tell new photographers that film is cheap, in other words shoot a lot and learn from your results. Pixels are even cheaper, so get in the habit of shooting different angles, or with a different lens, or different shutter speed or whatever. Break the snapshooter's habit of quickly taking only one shot of a subject and moving on. When you look at all your shots of each subject, compare them critically and see what worked, what didn't -- and why.

You'll be fine regardless of which of the major camera brands you pick, but do try to ignore the brand arguments by people who should spend more time shooting pics than fighting about brands. If all of your friends use one brand, then unless you really love a particular camera model of another brand, then consider getting the same brand as them so you can borrow lenses to try out for the subjects you shoot. Otherwise, buy what's best for you. The Nikon/Canon, Coke/Pepsi, Windows/Mac debates are almost always ridiculous and unhelpful.

Jeff

Post 29 of 148

This is the most honest answer I've read so far.

by daa2 - 5/14/07 4:33 AM In reply to: Re: digital SLR for newbies by siriusproductions

Ignore the make of the camera. Comfort, price and features are usually what really make the difference for me.

Always physically hold the different cameras. If it isn't comfortable you won't use it no matter how much you pay. Some cameras feel more awkward to hold than others. I've never been a gameboy user and find navigating menus by thumb control on digital cameras irritating. That's why I got a camera that has more manual dials and controls. It really is about comfort.

Prices are always changing. The prices of cameras are almost like computers today in that they tend to drop quickly as new features and advances arrive on the market. Try not to get caught in the 'latest greatest' craze. The camera is a tool and the better you know it the more likely you'll be able to get the shots you want.

The features affect the price. One feature I find extremely useful is the image stabilization/shake reduction feature. It will help you get blur free shot in lighting conditions where you would normally need a flash and/or tripod. You can easily find this feature with the big names on the market like Nikon, Canon, Pentax and Sony. The cost of the feature is very different though. Nikon and Canon use stabilized lenses. Lenses with this feature will cost significantly more than standard lenses. Pentax and Sony have the stabilization built into the camera so that every lens is stabilized. As with any technology, people will argue about which is the better approach. The average amateur user will not likely notice the difference. Since cost is an issue ($500 - $700 you say) I'd look at Pentax and Sony if you want this feature.

Lenses - The interchangeable lenses offer great choice. I'd stick with the kit lens that comes with the camera before laying out extra cash on another lens. Play with the camera and you will find the kind of shots you like you like to take. Then you'll have a better idea what kind of lens or lenses you might need.

Most importantly, never forget you take the picture not the camera. Good or bad, the image is the result of the photographer.


Dan

Post 30 of 148

You need to find a salesperson!

by filmtex - 5/4/07 7:02 PM In reply to: Newbie to dSLR: Taking the next step beyond point-and-shoot cameras by Lee Koo (ADMIN) Moderator

You can read all you want, compare specs you probably won't understand etc etc. But what you really need to do is find a reputable local camera dealer and ask for their best salesperson. You'll be glad you did. This person will probably show you Canons, Nikons, Pentax and maybe a couple of others. They are all just about the same- in the price range you are suggesting. Find the camera that fits your hand, have them explain what additional lens you'll need, get a nice bag to schlep it all around in and go out and shoot a bunch of photos. Have fun!
The best part of this whole thing is- if you have more questions, you'll have an advocate at the camera store who will be there to hellp you. Big box stores and on-line purchases are great-if you already know what you want.

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