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Car Tech: Poll: Would you consider buying a hybrid or alternative-fuel car?
- 5/3/07 11:55 AM
YES ! ! ! Toyota Highlander Hybrid is the BEST
by geoandsusan - 5/3/07 10:26 AM In reply to: Poll: Would you consider buying a hybrid or alternative-fuel car? by Lee Koo (ADMIN)
After researching every manufacturer and hybrid process for months, I bought a 2006 Toyota Highlander Hybrid in February of 2006. I could not have made a better choice ! ! Our true hybrid averages about 29.5 mpg and if we are super conscientious, 32 mpg. This car/truck has beat every expectation and out performs the rest. We put 38,000 miles on our first year and have looked at adding a second Highlander Hybrid to our family. So versatile and yet so fuel savvy for a SUV, we use it in our business everyday. I am glad I made the hybrid choice and will do it again. If we could use cars in our business, I would by hybrid cars as well.
Cost of ownership?
by keeferzjr - 5/3/07 1:05 PM In reply to: YES ! ! ! Toyota Highlander Hybrid is the BEST by geoandsusanSo, how much did you pay for the Highlander and how much do you save in gas mileage? Will you recoup the extra c ost of the vehicle in a reasonable amount of time or will you have to pay it off faster or keep it longer than usual to do so? Just honestly curious...
Greasy Rider Documentary - Alt fuels
by pc4me - 5/3/07 11:18 AM In reply to: Poll: Would you consider buying a hybrid or alternative-fuel car? by Lee Koo (ADMIN)
www.linktv.org/programming/programDescription.php4?code=greasy
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www.greasyrider.com
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This documentary was eye opening! Keep corn fields fueling starving people everywhere and don't accept what is being dished out by huge energy companies wanting to keep us all in their pockets.
Toyota Prius is great!
by jwilli21 - 5/3/07 11:23 AM In reply to: Poll: Would you consider buying a hybrid or alternative-fuel car? by Lee Koo (ADMIN)
I went from a 2004 "Pacifica" SUV to my Prius. I have a 2005 black Prius with the #6 package. This car has traction control,GPS,bluetooth,stability control,and much more.
I get 48 mpg on average. I have taken numerous trips from Florida to the mountains and I zip right along at 75-80 with no problems at all.
The gas motor is very efficient and the electric motor is 67hp and produces 295/ft lbs of torgue.
Toyota is so far ahead of the game. They make the hybrids in the SUV's
and luxury cars.
We will never get to where we need to be as long as people like the "corvette lady" have the attitude that if they want it they should have it. I can pretty much afford to buy any car I like and I will buy another hybrid.
Would not buy a hybrid.
by drummer-tj - 5/3/07 12:11 PM In reply to: Poll: Would you consider buying a hybrid or alternative-fuel car? by Lee Koo (ADMIN)
Dollar savings of fuel is outwayed by extra charge for hybrid of same gas powered vehicle. The efficiency isn't there yet as it is with buying a high efficiency furnace which takes 3-4 years to recoup the extra cost. By the time you get to that point you need a new vehicle.
perhaps, perhaps not.
by cb_anthony - 5/4/07 12:30 AM In reply to: Would not buy a hybrid. by drummer-tjIt is true that current estimates suggest 4-5 years to recoup extra cost, but gasoline prices are going up all the time (or at least it seems that way) so the recoup period could end up being a bit less that originally expected.
As for buying a new car after five years, I don't know about that. In my family, we seem to drive our cars a bit longer than that.
I drove my last car until the engine needed replacing and it lasted 7 years. A relative is driving around an 8 year old Volvo. God willing, it will last at least one more year. My current civic hybrid; well, I hope it will last at least 8 years or more (hoping for 10). According to Honda, the engine won't need tuning till the mileage gets to 6 digits.
No (Too Expensive)
by prince10bee - 5/3/07 1:02 PM In reply to: Poll: Would you consider buying a hybrid or alternative-fuel car? by Lee Koo (ADMIN)
Right now hybrid vehicals are too expensinve. Even though the fuel mialage is great, the money you save isn't eneugh to pay for the extra that went twards the hybid in the 1st place. Untill hybrid cars get cheaper I'm sticking with the standard.
Too Expensive
by gandyfire - 5/4/07 4:43 PM In reply to: No (Too Expensive) by prince10beeI dont know where you get off saying they are too expensive. The Toyota Camry Hybrid can be purchased for a bit more than $25,000 for the base model which is very well equiped. Mileage on mine is consistantly averaging 40.1 mpg since last July in warm climate. The database on greenhybrid.com has averaged 37.0 mpg for all users even thruout the winter months.
As for price comparison the Camry hybrid is only about $1200 more than a similiar equiped 4 cylinder XLE with exception of reclining rear seat, the battery pack will last the life of the car (Toyota has yet to replace one under normal use).
If everybody drove one we would be buying fuel from the Arabs or the Venezuela dictator who owns Citgo!!
Already Own a Hybrid
by fivedunns - 5/3/07 1:12 PM In reply to: Poll: Would you consider buying a hybrid or alternative-fuel car? by Lee Koo (ADMIN)
We bought a 2005 Toyota Prius in July 2005 instead of a minivan. We love it. It fits the family of five comfortably. Its electronics fascinates my wife's and my engineering brains. It gets at least 45 miles per gallon on average when doing highway miles and better than 50 miles per gallon combined in town and highway miles. We use this car much more than the standard engine car (a 2002 Dodge Intrepid). We have over 38,000 miles on it so far. We found that the Honda Accord hybrid was a V-6 engine with the best EPA estimate of only ~30 mpg for >$30,000. The Honda Civic was too small. We also found out that, at the time, Honda licensed a previous version of the Toyota Hybrid technology.
Very Interesting.....
by nospeedctrl - 5/3/07 2:30 PM In reply to: Already Own a Hybrid by fivedunnsI really can't see anyone 6 feet tall being comfortable in a Prius and other hybrids. Then spend the money for them and really get no return because they don't nor will they ever last as long as a Diesel engine. PLUS, have one break down and see what kind of price tag that has.
It's great that these little one ton cars get 29-40 MPG isn't it? Well, not really because like i've said in a previous post, i have a 3500 Dodge 4wd Quad cab p/u and "TOWING" i get no less than 19MPG (although average 22-24MPG), but in regular driving in get into high 20MPG's consistantly....and that's with a 10,000+ GVWR. Another interesting fact.....my old Dodge 2500 Diesel 4 door 4wd P/U was getting over 30MPG, but was also a few thousand lb lighter and went 252,000 still running strong when i traded it in.
Continuation of my post above
by nospeedctrl - 5/3/07 2:52 PM In reply to: Very Interesting..... by nospeedctrlJust mto make clear.....I do not run ANY diesel fuel in my trucks and I have always/only ran BIO Diesel. 250k all on BIO Diesel 
It can't all be about money ... or it will never happen ...
by geeman1082 - 5/3/07 2:07 PM In reply to: Poll: Would you consider buying a hybrid or alternative-fuel car? by Lee Koo (ADMIN)
Those who would bad-mouth a hybrid because it won't pay for itself quickly are completely missing the point. Using less gas is a good thing, and I happen to believe that it's okay to do a good thing even if you don't get a financial reward for doing it ...
I also agree with some other posters that there are many other ways for us to save energy, but such discussions are outside the scope of this thread (and this forum, for that matter) ...
Regards,
Greg
Sorry, it's not a "good thing"
by Andy77e - 5/4/07 6:29 PM In reply to: It can't all be about money ... or it will never happen ... by geeman1082What makes using less gas a "good thing"? Because you say so? Or because someone else says so? Well sorry, I'm not going to do something just so I can meet someone elses arbitrary standard, that way someone else can think I did a 'good thing'. Using less or more gas is not 'good' or 'bad'. I just means I spent more, or spent less.
Heh heh heh ... you ARE joking, right?
by geeman1082 - 5/4/07 9:58 PM In reply to: Sorry, it's not a "good thing" by Andy77e... and if you're not joking, then you're obviously just trying to bait me into a senseless argument ... but I'm not biting ...
Regards,
Greg
Not at all.
by Andy77e - 5/5/07 2:55 PM In reply to: Heh heh heh ... you ARE joking, right? by geeman1082Why should I bow down to your standard of what is "good"?
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